Murder is justified?

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Looking at recent events in the Middle East. Israel - Hezscumbags - Syria - Iran - Afghanistan - Iraq....you can see where I'm coming from.

Looking at recent posts and threads here on SC regarding these events. Well, this one is perhaps different. It has no links or references. It's all mine.

We know, to varying extents, Western and Middle Eastern military capabilities. (Obviously a minority do not - I generally have to disregard these people.)

Israel has a right of defence. Is this a right to kill innocents? A justification of killing children? An argument of targeting the enemy - but hey, so sorry! Your kids are dead? Your Mrs? Your bloke with dodgy teeth? Blame Hezscumbags! It's they're fault!

.......for fucks sake! When did two wrongs make a right? You do not have to be a Christian to see that all thats happening in this recent conflict is morally WRONG.

So many people take so much pride in their nations superior technology. Why are these nations not taking the morally higher ground? Why are they not achieving their aims through this superior technology? Is the enemy that effective!!!!???
Basics! Getting rid of terrorists? More like recruitment!

C'mon!

Could it be, perhaps, there is a leadership element at fault here? Anyone military? What's the goal? What's the aim? ACHIEVE THE MISSION. Isn't mission success everything? Of course it is. Look at Iraq in 2003. Military goal achieved. Mission accomplished(Like FUCK) - well, is it accomplished? No argument, is there?

It baffles the fuck out me how Georgie got voted back into power. Was his competition that bad? In fact, I know why he got voted back in. If I explained why I'd probably receive a lifetimes ban - I fuckin' wonder sometimes though.

I wonder sometimes why people can be all for their war and weaponary. War and weaponary in the sense of aggressive conflict - not SELF-defense.

I'd love a chat with you guys.

I really would.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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I really like you avatar. That's awesome.

Concerning your editorial... I agree fantasy worlds are a much better place to live in than reality.

www.FourWheelerHB.com

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I really like you avatar. That's awesome.

Concerning your editorial... I agree fantasy worlds are a much better place to live in than reality.

How can you agree with my fantasy world? I don't have one. I think, despite replying to your utterly stupid thread, you'll be disregarded.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Looking at recent events in the Middle East. Israel - Hezscumbags - Syria - Iran - Afghanistan - Iraq....you can see where I'm coming from.

Looking at recent posts and threads here on SC regarding these events. Well, this one is perhaps different. It has no links or references. It's all mine.

We know, to varying extents, Western and Middle Eastern military capabilities. (Obviously a minority do not - I generally have to disregard these people.)

Israel has a right of defence. Is this a right to kill innocents? A justification of killing children? An argument of targeting the enemy - but hey, so sorry! Your kids are dead? Your Mrs? Your bloke with dodgy teeth? Blame Hezscumbags! It's they're fault!

.......for fucks sake! When did two wrongs make a right? You do not have to be a Christian to see that all thats happening in this recent conflict is morally WRONG.

So many people take so much pride in their nations superior technology. Why are these nations not taking the morally higher ground? Why are they not achieving their aims through this superior technology? Is the enemy that effective!!!!???
Basics! Getting rid of terrorists? More like recruitment!

C'mon!

Could it be, perhaps, there is a leadership element at fault here? Anyone military? What's the goal? What's the aim? ACHIEVE THE MISSION. Isn't mission success everything? Of course it is. Look at Iraq in 2003. Military goal achieved. Mission accomplished(Like FUCK) - well, is it accomplished? No argument, is there?

It baffles the fuck out me how Georgie got voted back into power. Was his competition that bad? In fact, I know why he got voted back in. If I explained why I'd probably receive a lifetimes ban - I fuckin' wonder sometimes though.

I wonder sometimes why people can be all for their war and weaponary. War and weaponary in the sense of aggressive conflict - not SELF-defense.

I'd love a chat with you guys.

I really would.

Just read this> "However, the strikes early Friday hit the affluent Christian locality of Jounieh, north of the capital, for the first time. The bombing against the picturesque coastal resort marked a sharp expansion of Israel's attack on Lebanon, which now threatens Christian areas where Hezbollah has no support and no presence." WTF?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and their sponsor states, Iran, Syria etc.. ALL target the civilian population without mercy or restraint. Let them reap what they sow. The Israelis have a right to defend themselves against any and all who would harm their people. Just as we would if the missiles and rockets were coming over the Rio Grande from Mexico. I say make the entire country of Lebanon a smoking hole in the ground, a permanent no mans land.

Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off.
-The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
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I really like you avatar. That's awesome.

Concerning your editorial... I agree fantasy worlds are a much better place to live in than reality.

How can you agree with my fantasy world? I don't have one. I think, despite replying to your utterly stupid thread, you'll be disregarded.

Hey, its your fantasy world. Do with it what you want....but I would fire your interior decorator if I were you.

www.FourWheelerHB.com

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Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and their sponsor states, Iran, Syria etc.. ALL target the civilian population without mercy or restraint. Let them reap what they sow. The Israelis have a right to defend themselves against any and all who would harm their people. Just as we would if the missiles and rockets were coming over the Rio Grande from Mexico. I say make the entire country of Lebanon a smoking hole in the ground, a permanent no mans land.

You are disregarded.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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I really like you avatar. That's awesome.

Concerning your editorial... I agree fantasy worlds are a much better place to live in than reality.

How can you agree with my fantasy world? I don't have one. I think, despite replying to your utterly stupid thread, you'll be disregarded.

Hey, its your fantasy world. Do with it what you want....but I would fire your interior decorator if I were you.

You are disregarded.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Looking at recent events in the Middle East. Israel - Hezscumbags - Syria - Iran - Afghanistan - Iraq....you can see where I'm coming from.

Looking at recent posts and threads here on SC regarding these events. Well, this one is perhaps different. It has no links or references. It's all mine.

We know, to varying extents, Western and Middle Eastern military capabilities. (Obviously a minority do not - I generally have to disregard these people.)

Israel has a right of defence. Is this a right to kill innocents? A justification of killing children? An argument of targeting the enemy - but hey, so sorry! Your kids are dead? Your Mrs? Your bloke with dodgy teeth? Blame Hezscumbags! It's they're fault!

.......for fucks sake! When did two wrongs make a right? You do not have to be a Christian to see that all thats happening in this recent conflict is morally WRONG.

So many people take so much pride in their nations superior technology. Why are these nations not taking the morally higher ground? Why are they not achieving their aims through this superior technology? Is the enemy that effective!!!!???
Basics! Getting rid of terrorists? More like recruitment!

C'mon!

Could it be, perhaps, there is a leadership element at fault here? Anyone military? What's the goal? What's the aim? ACHIEVE THE MISSION. Isn't mission success everything? Of course it is. Look at Iraq in 2003. Military goal achieved. Mission accomplished(Like FUCK) - well, is it accomplished? No argument, is there?

It baffles the fuck out me how Georgie got voted back into power. Was his competition that bad? In fact, I know why he got voted back in. If I explained why I'd probably receive a lifetimes ban - I fuckin' wonder sometimes though.

I wonder sometimes why people can be all for their war and weaponary. War and weaponary in the sense of aggressive conflict - not SELF-defense.

I'd love a chat with you guys.

I really would.

Just read this> "However, the strikes early Friday hit the affluent Christian locality of Jounieh, north of the capital, for the first time. The bombing against the picturesque coastal resort marked a sharp expansion of Israel's attack on Lebanon, which now threatens Christian areas where Hezbollah has no support and no presence." WTF?

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'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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I really like you avatar. That's awesome.

Concerning your editorial... I agree fantasy worlds are a much better place to live in than reality.

How can you agree with my fantasy world? I don't have one. I think, despite replying to your utterly stupid thread, you'll be disregarded.

Hey, its your fantasy world. Do with it what you want....but I would fire your interior decorator if I were you.

You are disregarded.

Fine but I'm taking my toys with me!

www.FourWheelerHB.com

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To all stupid people - I have no side with Hezscumbags. If you feel I do, fine. You are.......
disregarded.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[Tink1717 2]

Typical. You can't effectively reply, so you tune out.

Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off.
-The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717

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>so you tune out.

Talk to the hand.

Best SC thread ever! A bunch of people posting over and over how they are ignoring each other. I ignore you! No, I ignore you _more!_ I am ignoring in your general direction. Ptooey.

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Typical. You can't effectively reply, so you tune out.

But you know I can effectively reply. Your upset I'm not falling for your bait in regards to your childish comment about making a country a smoking hole. Can I refer you to my original post? Who I'd disregard? Happy?

Your now partially disregarded.

Because from the sound of things you sound like the USA's strategic policy maker.

God you guys know how to win international support.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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>so you tune out.

Talk to the hand.

Best SC thread ever! A bunch of people posting over and over how they are ignoring each other. I ignore you! No, I ignore you _more!_ I am ignoring in your general direction. Ptooey.

Ok Bill point taken, but how can you argue with these people?????????????

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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>so you tune out.

Talk to the hand.

Best SC thread ever! A bunch of people posting over and over how they are ignoring each other. I ignore you! No, I ignore you _more!_ I am ignoring in your general direction. Ptooey.

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That's funny! Seriously... I like that!


Chuck

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Refer to the original post - that's the one at the start. There's no argument. Turn a country into a smoking hole?

Shall I even bother to debate this?

Will I fuck.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Refer to the original post - that's the one at the start. There's no argument. Turn a country into a smoking hole?

Shall I even bother to debate this?

Will I fuck.

It's been debated to death in here -- nothing new in your post. Despite your reply, you are disregarded.

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hahaha - I disregard myself

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Refer to the original post - that's the one at the start. There's no argument. Turn a country into a smoking hole?

Shall I even bother to debate this?

Will I fuck.

how about glass parkinglot? better? I think so!

www.FourWheelerHB.com

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hahaha - I disregard myself

And yes, I voted for Georgie because the competition sucked even worse.

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hahaha - I disregard myself

And yes, I voted for Georgie because the competition sucked even worse.

So you only had a choice of two?

edited to add: sorry, nothing was better than Georgie? Fucks sake, what kind of Government d'you guys have? A British one?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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So you only had a choice of two?

Realistically, yes. Bush and Kerry.

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edited to add: sorry, nothing was better than Georgie? Fucks sake, what kind of Government d'you guys have? A British one?

That's kind of hard on the British. We have a government that's increasingly untrustworthy and corrupt, I'd say. I like our system, but the people in it (now and in the recent past) are a bunch of turdsuckers.

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Anyway - as usual SC posts being bypassed by immature comments. Anyone got a sensible point to make? Without me having to disregard you?

As egotistical as it may sound, there is no argument. Regarding the justification of murdered innocents in the pursuit of defeating one's enemy - there is no justification. The big man will explain that one to you at the gates. Reckon there's going to be a bit of a line.

Get a fuckin' grip. Start sparking you disregarded people.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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quote>"That's kind of hard on the British. We have a government that's increasingly untrustworthy and corrupt, I'd say. I like our system, but the people in it (now and in the recent past) are a bunch of turdsuckers. "
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You like your system...thats increasingly untrustworthy and corrupt! Yeah, sounds brilliant!

In fact, sounds British!

Fuck.

DISREGARDED!!!! hahahahaaaa

Wish it was that easy.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'