I guess the Brits are right...

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Raul Castro is not the next in line, and Cubans Americans couldn't care less what happens in the Island as they have already assimilated in U.S. society.

or maybe I was right in saying they haven't got a clue. Lets read what is going on in the Island and Miami right today.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/15168654.htm

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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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Wouldn't it be easier to just add this to the relevant thread? Is there a seperate point you are trying to make?

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Wouldn't it be easier to just add this to the relevant thread? Is there a seperate point you are trying to make?

Yes there is a separate point. This is new news, that just came out last night, and it is cause for celebration. I wish I could be in Miami or Union City right now to partake.
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Raul Castro is not the next in line...
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/15168654.htm

The "Not-A-Clue" brit actually said:

"Incidentally, Raul Castro is a given to follow Fidel as leader. He won't last long - he's only 5 years younger than Fidel. My money's then on Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Roque."

And from the link:

"Fidel Castro, suffering from a serious illness, ceded power Monday night to his brother, 75-year-old Raúl Castro, the leader of Cuba's armed forces."

Now, Y'aAll will have to excuse me while I log into the Cuba Government website and send my hopes for Comrade Fidel's rapid recovery and a speedy return to his enlightened leadership & inspirational speeches.
Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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Raul Castro is not the next in line...
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/15168654.htm

The "Not-A-Clue" brit actually said:

"Incidentally, Raul Castro is a given to follow Fidel as leader. He won't last long - he's only 5 years younger than Fidel. My money's then on Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Roque."



And from the link:

"Fidel Castro, suffering from a serious illness, ceded power Monday night to his brother, 75-year-old Raúl Castro, the leader of Cuba's armed forces."

Now, Y'aAll will have to excuse me while I log into the Cuba Government website and send my hopes for Comrade Fidel's rapid recovery and a speedy return to his enlightened leadership & inspirational speeches.
Mike.

I won't dig up your post just now. But, many things currently are possible. Its possible that there is nothing really wrong with Castro and that this may be a test to find out what the public reaction will be in Cuba. I expect many people will indeed take to the streets in attempts to overthrow the regime. If at that point Castro is indeed ok, many more will be slaughtered by his military and ofcourse nobody in Miami will be celebrating.
The other possibility is that he may already be dead or indeed is seriously ill. This is the first time ever since he and his thugs conquered the island that he has seceeded power, so that may be a good sign. If this is the case, I am sure that Raul will be assasinted quickly unless he is exiled even quicker to some country that will gladly take him with all the blood money from the regime.
I am hoping for the latter senario, ofcourse. After that, I, just as many others can go with my family to Cuba to see what I have been hearing about my entire life, (knowing that I am not an asshole European/Canadian contributing to that regime).
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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How about some ketchup for that chip?

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How about some ketchup for that chip?

heh heh, you call them, "chips"

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How about some ketchup for that chip?

heh heh, you call them, "chips"

Of course. Saying he had a freedom fry on his shoulder just wouldn't make any sense at all.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I guess the Brits are right...

Whatever you do, please don't encourage them

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Whatever you do, please don't encourage them

'What shall we do tonight Tony?'

'Same thing we do every night Gordon - try to take over the world, again!'

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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checking out the reader input on the BBC website...It is surprising how many people are sympathetic to the Cuban dictator.

And on both sides, they're painting a completely different picture of life in Cuba. Some people think it's a lovely socialist paradise, others think its an oppressive, poverty-stricken police state.

and each side says that the other side's story is just false propaganda.



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checking out the reader input on the BBC website...It is surprising how many people are sympathetic to the Cuban dictator.

And on both sides, they're painting a completely different picture of life in Cuba. Some people think it's a lovely socialist paradise, others think its an oppressive, poverty-stricken police state.

and each side says that the other side's story is just false propaganda.



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Yeah there are a lot of people who base their opinions on mis-information. But if you want to get closer to the truth. Look to see what Cubans that have escaped the tyranny are saying. Then think of how many people have died at sea or been killed just off the Cuban shore by the current regime for trying to escape the horror.
I know many people (typically lefties) want to find shades of gray and confusion in everything but here there simply isn't. Fidel Castro = the worst possible thing that ever happened to Cuba, period, end of story.
A freind of mine with some fucked up (lefty) ideas wanted me to watch 'Motorcycle Diaries', a sick movie glorifying that worthless vermin Ernesto Guevara (Che). I asked him plain and simple would you ask a person who parents were concentration camp survivors to watch a movie glorifying Hitler in his younger years? Well that to me is equivalent.
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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anyway here's the link clicky

it seems that many of the pro-Castro comments are being typed from well-developed, western countries like the USA, Canada, Europe, UK, and Australia. The comments from people who have actually lived/are living in Cuba are mostly negative.

I guess communism looks the best when viewed from across the ocean, in the comfort of a non-communist country.

some of it smacks of the "rebellious-politics-as-fashion-statement" that I saw from rich kids where I grew up in Massachusetts.

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knowing that I am not an asshole European/Canadian contributing to that regime

Funny, you work for a canadian company that does business with Cuba. if your actual bravado was a quarter of the size of your internet babbeling bravado, you would have the balls to quit your job.....

Guess you don't really feel that strongly about it...do you now....

Edited to add: Or was it Storm that works for Nortel?

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knowing that I am not an asshole European/Canadian contributing to that regime

Funny, you work for a canadian company that does business with Cuba. if your actual bravado was a quarter of the size of your internet babbeling bravado, you would have the balls to quit your job.....

Guess you don't really feel that strongly about it...do you now....

So then I guess you approve of everything your company does, right. Or for that matter you approve of everything you country does. Or else you might just jump out in the ocean and surround yourself by people who do everything you do.

Sounds to me you you really don't believe the jibberish you post or you would be to stupid to type.
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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So then I guess you approve of everything your company does, right. Or for that matter you approve of everything you country does. Or else you might just jump out in the ocean and surround yourself by people who do everything you do.

Sounds to me you you really don't believe the jibberish you post or you would be to stupid to type.

I am not the one calling sombody calling all europeans and canadians stupid while working for a canadian company that does business with cuba...

My company does most of its business in Canada and some in the US and a small amount in Europe. I am no fan of US foreign policy, but then I am not calling the majority of Americans assholes for at one point supporting the idiot running the country.....

I hope you see the difference....

So, if you feel so strongly about people who go to Cuba on vacation or about countries who allow their citizens to go to cuba on vacation, you really shouldn't be working for a company of such a country that also does business with Cuba.

When you do, I realy have no other option but to think that you talk a great deal and try and make yourself sound impressive, but when actual push comes to shove....you take no action and do nothing.....

(now please don't have your girlfriend come on here to tell us that you have good action)

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I am not the one calling sombody calling all europeans and canadians stupid while working for a canadian company that does business with cuba...

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Didn't read the rest of your post as I saw a misstatement in the first sentence. I did NOT say all Europeans and Canadians were assholes. I was actually born and descend 100% from Europe. What I did make reference to was the Europeans or Canadians that helped support the regime I am so vehmently against, and I called them assholes not stupid.
As for your statement of Nortel, I have receieved calls and worked issues all over the world but never from Cuba. If Nortel did business with Cuba then I would dissapprove but I am more helpful to Cuba by continuing happily at my job getting wealthier. This way I can save up money and open up a business from which I can possibly employ Cubans who have escaped from that nightmare that Castro has created and assholes have helped maintain.
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I was actually born and descend 100% from Europe.

But you are Cuban, born in the US?

Makes perfect sense to me...

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As for your statement of Nortel, I have receieved calls and worked issues all over the world but never from Cuba. If Nortel did business with Cuba then I would dissapprove but I am more helpful to Cuba by continuing happily at my job getting wealthier. This way I can save up money and open up a business from which I can possibly employ Cubans who have escaped from that nightmare that Castro has created and assholes have helped maintain.
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I have stayed out of this all day. But gee, that sounds like a wonderful EXCUSE to me.

And it is about time for me to leave. This day has been swell.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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I was actually born and descend 100% from Europe.

But you are Cuban, born in the US?

Makes perfect sense to me...

Actually I was born in Spain. I know it may be difficult to understand but, you may live in Canada and descend from Holland (Europe), and have been born anywhere. And if your family happened to spend 2 Generations in South Africa before ending up in Canada, you might identify with a South African culture, but completely descend from Holland (Europe).
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many things currently are possible. Its possible that there is nothing really wrong with Castro and that this may be a test to find out what the public reaction will be in Cuba. I expect many people will indeed take to the streets in attempts to overthrow the regime. If at that point Castro is indeed ok, many more will be slaughtered by his military and ofcourse nobody in Miami will be celebrating.
The other possibility is that he may already be dead or indeed is seriously ill. This is the first time ever since he and his thugs conquered the island that he has seceeded power, so that may be a good sign. If this is the case, I am sure that Raul will be assasinted quickly unless he is exiled even quicker to some country that will gladly take him with all the blood money from the regime.

I doubt this is a, "let's see what happens" ploy or that he is dead already. He probably is seriously ill, however, and chose to hand over power to his brother before he became incapacitated.

Just this transfer of power alone has created uprising and talks of overthrowing the current regime, can you imagine the momentum such a movement would have if he died while still in office? F. Castro would want to avoid that at all costs.