kallend 2,147 #26 July 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote So how do you know the govt. is NOT spying on us when you admit that you don't know what the Quotegovt. is doing? Given this administration's known propensity for snooping and secrecy about its snooping, surely the prudent should assume the government IS spying on them. Why would the govt. be interested in spying on me? I pose no threat to National Security. I know you will find it hard to believe, but the IRS has been spying on all of us for years. They pose a greater risk than the NSA to you and me. Why never a word about their spying from you? Could it be that you accept the spying because you understand why they do it? I guess that's the good spying. Or could it be you just enjoy the incessant Bush bashing? I'm guessing the later. QuoteStill avoiding the question with a distraction about the IRS. I knew you would dodge that and try to pretend it is a larger problem than it is considering it's your ilk who always opposes any type of reform. QuoteHow do YOU know what the government is snooping on, do you work covertly for the IRS, NSA, CIA or the White House? Define snooping. How do you know what they are doing? At least I look at it and ask why they would want to. A question you have "weaseled" out of on numerous occaisions. QuoteIf posing a threat to security was the criterion for being spied upon, why does Echelon snoop on ALL conversations, including yours? Still beating that dead horse, eh? Echelon doesn't listen to the conversation. It only listens for certain words. Truly amazing ability to misunderstand. Evasion again. We have a White House that denies spying on the people until some whistleblower "outs" it, yet you continue to believe that what the government has told you so far is the WHOLE truth. You still play semantic games over Echelon, which monitors YOUR calls but you deny that it's listening in. What's even stranger is that you mock those who disbelieve this adminstration despite its long and proven track record of deception and duplicity. Seems like you are a good candidate for buying that bridge in NYC.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #27 July 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote So how do you know the govt. is NOT spying on us when you admit that you don't know what the Quotegovt. is doing? Given this administration's known propensity for snooping and secrecy about its snooping, surely the prudent should assume the government IS spying on them. Why would the govt. be interested in spying on me? I pose no threat to National Security. I know you will find it hard to believe, but the IRS has been spying on all of us for years. They pose a greater risk than the NSA to you and me. Why never a word about their spying from you? Could it be that you accept the spying because you understand why they do it? I guess that's the good spying. Or could it be you just enjoy the incessant Bush bashing? I'm guessing the later. QuoteStill avoiding the question with a distraction about the IRS. I knew you would dodge that and try to pretend it is a larger problem than it is considering it's your ilk who always opposes any type of reform. QuoteHow do YOU know what the government is snooping on, do you work covertly for the IRS, NSA, CIA or the White House? Define snooping. How do you know what they are doing? At least I look at it and ask why they would want to. A question you have "weaseled" out of on numerous occaisions. QuoteIf posing a threat to security was the criterion for being spied upon, why does Echelon snoop on ALL conversations, including yours? Still beating that dead horse, eh? Echelon doesn't listen to the conversation. It only listens for certain words. Truly amazing ability to misunderstand. Evasion again. We have a White House that denies spying on the people until some whistleblower "outs" it, yet you continue to believe that what the government has told you so far is the WHOLE truth. You still play semantic games over Echelon, which monitors YOUR calls but you deny that it's listening in. What's even stranger is that you mock those who disbelieve this adminstration despite its long and proven track record of deception and duplicity. Seems like you are a good candidate for buying that bridge in NYC. You trying to sell the bridge you already bought? I'm going to try one more time with you and then give up: Yes the Govt. witholds information. Always has, always will. You have no right to know everything that goes on within the intel community and what methods they have at collecting information. To assert that you do is laughable and naive. Last time I'm going to explain it to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #28 July 30, 2006 QuoteYes the Govt. witholds information. Always has, always will. You have no right to know everything that goes on within the intel community and what methods they have at collecting information. To assert that you do is laughable and naive. Last time I'm going to explain it to you. Since you understand that so well you can explain it to others, why don't you explain it to yourself? Your response as an admission that the government lies about its eavesdropping activites and that you don't know their full extent. Yet you naively maintain that the government is NOT monitoring your or my calls while admitting they lie about what monitoring they do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Gravitymaster 0 #27 July 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote So how do you know the govt. is NOT spying on us when you admit that you don't know what the Quotegovt. is doing? Given this administration's known propensity for snooping and secrecy about its snooping, surely the prudent should assume the government IS spying on them. Why would the govt. be interested in spying on me? I pose no threat to National Security. I know you will find it hard to believe, but the IRS has been spying on all of us for years. They pose a greater risk than the NSA to you and me. Why never a word about their spying from you? Could it be that you accept the spying because you understand why they do it? I guess that's the good spying. Or could it be you just enjoy the incessant Bush bashing? I'm guessing the later. QuoteStill avoiding the question with a distraction about the IRS. I knew you would dodge that and try to pretend it is a larger problem than it is considering it's your ilk who always opposes any type of reform. QuoteHow do YOU know what the government is snooping on, do you work covertly for the IRS, NSA, CIA or the White House? Define snooping. How do you know what they are doing? At least I look at it and ask why they would want to. A question you have "weaseled" out of on numerous occaisions. QuoteIf posing a threat to security was the criterion for being spied upon, why does Echelon snoop on ALL conversations, including yours? Still beating that dead horse, eh? Echelon doesn't listen to the conversation. It only listens for certain words. Truly amazing ability to misunderstand. Evasion again. We have a White House that denies spying on the people until some whistleblower "outs" it, yet you continue to believe that what the government has told you so far is the WHOLE truth. You still play semantic games over Echelon, which monitors YOUR calls but you deny that it's listening in. What's even stranger is that you mock those who disbelieve this adminstration despite its long and proven track record of deception and duplicity. Seems like you are a good candidate for buying that bridge in NYC. You trying to sell the bridge you already bought? I'm going to try one more time with you and then give up: Yes the Govt. witholds information. Always has, always will. You have no right to know everything that goes on within the intel community and what methods they have at collecting information. To assert that you do is laughable and naive. Last time I'm going to explain it to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #28 July 30, 2006 QuoteYes the Govt. witholds information. Always has, always will. You have no right to know everything that goes on within the intel community and what methods they have at collecting information. To assert that you do is laughable and naive. Last time I'm going to explain it to you. Since you understand that so well you can explain it to others, why don't you explain it to yourself? Your response as an admission that the government lies about its eavesdropping activites and that you don't know their full extent. Yet you naively maintain that the government is NOT monitoring your or my calls while admitting they lie about what monitoring they do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kallend 2,147 #28 July 30, 2006 QuoteYes the Govt. witholds information. Always has, always will. You have no right to know everything that goes on within the intel community and what methods they have at collecting information. To assert that you do is laughable and naive. Last time I'm going to explain it to you. Since you understand that so well you can explain it to others, why don't you explain it to yourself? Your response as an admission that the government lies about its eavesdropping activites and that you don't know their full extent. Yet you naively maintain that the government is NOT monitoring your or my calls while admitting they lie about what monitoring they do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
