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Do you know of any country that actually truly believes they would win in a war against us



China doesnt need to go to war with us, all the have to do is mention the fact that they will unload the T-bills they have. Why start a war when you can cripple our economy.

As to this article the guy is nuts. Not only would we royally piss of Russian and China, remember the latter holds hundreds of billions of dollars in T-bills. He doens't take into account the impact it would have on the oil markets world wide.

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>the writer of the article said 'a BOLD proposal.'

If someone actually did propose starting a war in part to give the GOP a boost, then I seriously fear for the future of the US.




Oops we are already there Bill


http://mydd.com/story/2006/7/16/103553/754


Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so. In an interview in Bellevue this morning Gingrich said Bush should call a joint session of Congress the first week of September and talk about global military conflicts in much starker terms than have been heard from the president.

"We need to have the militancy that says 'We're not going to lose a city,' " Gingrich said. He talks about the need to recognize World War III as important for military strategy and political strategy.

Gingrich said he is "very worried" about Republican's facing fall elections and says the party must have the "nerve" to nationalize the elections and make the 2006 campaigns about a liberal Democratic agenda rather than about President Bush's record.


Shorter Newt: It's important to start World War III, otherwise the Democrats will win the midterms in 2006 and the Republican Congress will not be able to prevent America from losing a



Drumming up the fear factor.... yup Newt.. great plan.

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**Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so. In an interview in Bellevue this morning Gingrich........

Irony?

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Maybe you don't understand it at all, I suppose it did not make sense to you.

The US and UK are unlike any two other nations, we fought against immense odds, had our backs to the wall and yet prevailed.

I guess that would be an alien idea to most people from other countries.

If it were not for the fact that we are inextricably connected in such a way maybe we would not have survived WWI, WWII, and the Cold war, which may have actually been WWIII.



Before I enter deeper into the fruitful connection between 2 (or more) nations, pls note: There have been connections over centuries between other nations. Nothing lasts forever, you should know. If interests change, connections change.

You talk so bloomy: ..."had our backs to the wall...."
Where, TF, are you from?

Goebbels would have loved those wordings but, hey: We're living in 21st century :o

Warpedwhatsoever: Just start a poll and ask your fellow brothers and sister in the UK what they like - you might face a giant surprise, bro! B|

Darling, I'm surely older than you. Stop telling me what I understand and what not. Come with facts and not with blabla - I will listen to you.

Cheers

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**Warpedwhatsoever: Just start a poll and ask your fellow brothers and sister in the UK what they like - you might face a giant surprise, bro!

Are you the dude constantly spamming me? ;)

ie.:

Hello bro, The good news are that this obstacle can be overcome by you, the real man. Keep her satisfied forever with Extra-Time which makes you Mr. Long Laster. Hate seeing her unhappy face after you finish too quickly? Come in here: http://polu****.com Get the courage and performance you need to be the best man of her life.

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The US and UK are unlike any two other nations, we fought against immense odds, had our backs to the wall and yet prevailed.



Check your history books (and current affairs). There was/is another nation involved. They stood beside you in all those wars and stand beside you in the war against those responsible for 9/11. Thankfully they were smart enough to realize the war in Iraq was/is completely bogus....

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That's a mighty dangerous idea to let swim around your head for very long. See below:

“Our nation, this most powerful, wealthy, and dominant people on the face of planet Earth, shall shine on for millennia to come.” -Pericles, the ruler during the Golden Age of Ancient Athens

“Under God’s watch, we shall conquer and never fall!” -Emperor Constantine of Rome

“We French are the most populous of Europe, the most wealthy, and possess an army that has brought us virtually the whole of the continent! Viva la France! Our great nation will prosper forever as the most powerful nation on Earth.” -Napoleon



My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye Mighty and despair

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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**Warpedwhatsoever: Just start a poll and ask your fellow brothers and sister in the UK what they like - you might face a giant surprise, bro!

Are you the dude constantly spamming me? ;)

ie.:

Hello bro, The good news are that this obstacle can be overcome by you, the real man. Keep her satisfied forever with Extra-Time which makes you Mr. Long Laster. Hate seeing her unhappy face after you finish too quickly? Come in here: http://polu****.com Get the courage and performance you need to be the best man of her life.



What's your problem, guy?
:|

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**Warpedwhatsoever: Just start a poll and ask your fellow brothers and sister in the UK what they like - you might face a giant surprise, bro!

Are you the dude constantly spamming me? ;)

ie.:

Hello bro, The good news are that this obstacle can be overcome by you, the real man. Keep her satisfied forever with Extra-Time which makes you Mr. Long Laster. Hate seeing her unhappy face after you finish too quickly? Come in here: http://polu****.com Get the courage and performance you need to be the best man of her life.



What's your problem, guy?
:|



I guess you missed the joke. It was subtle, I suppose. My daily email spammage always starts out with "hello BRO!"..... OK, maybe it just wasn't funny.

But I really don't have a problem, guy.[:/]

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That's a mighty dangerous idea to let swim around your head for very long. See below:

“Our nation, this most powerful, wealthy, and dominant people on the face of planet Earth, shall shine on for millennia to come.” -Pericles, the ruler during the Golden Age of Ancient Athens

“Under God’s watch, we shall conquer and never fall!” -Emperor Constantine of Rome

“We French are the most populous of Europe, the most wealthy, and possess an army that has brought us virtually the whole of the continent! Viva la France! Our great nation will prosper forever as the most powerful nation on Earth.” -Napoleon



My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye Mighty and despair



SC culture has reached a new high.
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That's a mighty dangerous idea to let swim around your head for very long. See below:

“Our nation, this most powerful, wealthy, and dominant people on the face of planet Earth, shall shine on for millennia to come.” -Pericles, the ruler during the Golden Age of Ancient Athens

“Under God’s watch, we shall conquer and never fall!” -Emperor Constantine of Rome

“We French are the most populous of Europe, the most wealthy, and possess an army that has brought us virtually the whole of the continent! Viva la France! Our great nation will prosper forever as the most powerful nation on Earth.” -Napoleon



My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye Mighty and despair



SC culture has reached a new high.



Oh, come on. I rather liked it....

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That's a mighty dangerous idea to let swim around your head for very long. See below:

“Our nation, this most powerful, wealthy, and dominant people on the face of planet Earth, shall shine on for millennia to come.” -Pericles, the ruler during the Golden Age of Ancient Athens

“Under God’s watch, we shall conquer and never fall!” -Emperor Constantine of Rome

“We French are the most populous of Europe, the most wealthy, and possess an army that has brought us virtually the whole of the continent! Viva la France! Our great nation will prosper forever as the most powerful nation on Earth.” -Napoleon



My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye Mighty and despair



SC culture has reached a new high.



Oh, come on. I rather liked it....



I'm not sure how to interpret that:|

I had to write a paper on Ozymandias for high school English. Sometime around 1960, I'd guess.
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SC culture has reached a new high.



I'll find some pics of naked chicks with guns to redress the balance if you want:)


OK, but remember to put NSFW or someone will complain.
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When you say "we" who are you refering to? I personally cannot see anyone other than someone wanting to become aquainted with 72 virgins being willing to risk bombing the US.



JFC ... don't you people see the irony in what was written by this guy and what I said. If you take me serious that I am adovating bombing the US, then you're just not seeing the big picture. I do not want the USA's economy to be destroyed because I know it will be a negative impact for most of us. But why is destroying Iran a good thing? Do you people really want World War III? Well we know the hard core Christians do because it will bring Armagedon sooner and these nut cases actually view the end of the world as a good thing. But I would hope that most of us view World War III as a bad thing.



Relax. Just asking a question. No I do not want to see a war with Iran. Sorry for whatever it was about my post that got you so irate.

Richards
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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The US and UK are unlike any two other nations, we fought against immense odds, had our backs to the wall and yet prevailed.



That's the most ridiculous thing i've seen here in a long while. "fought against immense odds, had our backs to the wall" can be applied to pretty much every other country but USA.

bsbd!

Yuri.

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That's the most ridiculous thing i've seen here in a long while. "fought against immense odds, had our backs to the wall" can be applied to pretty much every other country but USA.

bsbd!

Yuri.



Maybe you watch too many movies, the US was not a major power at the point it entered WWII, and for quite some time things didn't go very well to say the least.

We nearly lost in the Pacific, North Africa, and Italy was so costly that it made the Normandy Invasion seem very unrealistic.

If the US or the UK had lost in WWII, Germany would have won after focusing all its attention on annihilating Russia.

When you want to claim the US did not have it as hard as it did just remember, the only thing that saved us at first was merely distance.

Just look at how many Americans were lost and realize that no US cities were bombed nor any significant attack on the continental US. (excluding Attu and Kiska)

We paid dearly, whats wrong we didn't have as many people die as you would have liked?

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>Just look at how many Americans were lost . . .

99% of those americans were sent into a war zone where other armies were fighting. That's why they died. We never had "our backs to the wall." We never lost any major cities. We never lost a major battle (outside of perhaps Pearl Harbor, which wasn't a battle so much as a bombing campaign.)

We put a tremendous amount of effort into World War II - but it would be difficult to claim we barely won, or that the odds were against us.

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We nearly lost in the Pacific, North Africa, and Italy was so costly that it made the Normandy Invasion seem very unrealistic.



A threat of loosing remote islands and colonies on the other side of the world, at worst, is as far from "back to the wall" as it gets.

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If the US or the UK had lost in WWII, Germany would have won after focusing all its attention on annihilating Russia.



This is as wrong and misinformed as it gets, too.

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When you want to claim the US did not have it as hard as it did just remember, the only thing that saved us at first was merely distance.



What you just said (distance and isolation) alone wipes out your "back to the wall" claim entirely. It's truly unbelievable you can set yourself up like that and don't see it :P

Any kid who played a strategy game can figure it out ;) There's nothing that could have been done to continental US. Just sit back, relax and build up armed forces. No other countries had that leisure.

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Just look at how many Americans were lost and realize that no US cities were bombed nor any significant attack on the continental US. (excluding Attu and Kiska)



You keep proving my points :)could possibly mount a serious attack on continental US.

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We paid dearly, whats wrong we didn't have as many people die as you would have liked?



American losses were orders of magnitude less than in countries that did have their backs to the wall. Further on, nearly all of US losses were suffered not defending the country (continental US) but rather defending it's "interests" on the other side of the globe.

Kinda like what's happening now: fighting over resources and world's dominance.

bsbd!

Yuri.

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