vortexring 0 #1 July 19, 2006 The other day Georgie Bush addressed the UK Prime Minister Tony Blair; "Yo, Blair." It was in private, however, if you were to be addressed as such, wouldn't you bristle? He may as well of said; "Hi, person-I-don't -respect." Would Winston Churchill accept being so addressed? Thatcher? Is this a bit of an Americanism? Would Americans be insulted to be addressed with only their surnames? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 July 19, 2006 Respect is something that is earnt Tony blew that along time ago.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #3 July 19, 2006 He could have at least given Georgie a 'throat massage,' and insist on being addressed correctly. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 July 19, 2006 You're getting mixed up with John Prescott. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #5 July 19, 2006 QuoteWould Winston Churchill accept being so addressed? Thatcher? I think if Bush had been around in Thatchers time he would only have been permitted to address her as 'Mistress' (Oh god that's a disturbing image - I'm off to wash my brain out with bleach)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #6 July 19, 2006 according to George Carlin, that is something you will never see: Margaret Thatcher strapping on a dildo. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #7 July 20, 2006 It sounded like "Yeah....Blair" to me, but that's kind of irrelevent, as is the "shit" bomb everyone made a fuss about. The fact that he kept chewing with his mouth open and talking with a mouth jammed full of food was the seriously disrespectful part. It saddens me that our representative to the world is not only an illiterate buffoon, but a disgusting slob with no manners as well. What a great example to our children. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #8 July 20, 2006 Quote according to George Carlin, that is something you will never see: Margaret Thatcher strapping on a dildo. What, you don't think she liked being the man in a relationship? "Say my name Ronald, say it!"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #9 July 20, 2006 QuoteIt sounded like "Yeah....Blair" to me, but that's kind of irrelevent, as is the "shit" bomb everyone made a fuss about. The fact that he kept chewing with his mouth open and talking with a mouth jammed full of food was the seriously disrespectful part. It saddens me that our representative to the world is not only an illiterate buffoon, but a disgusting slob with no manners as well. What a great example to our children. Blues, Dave At least he didn't vomit on the Japanese Prime Minister.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #10 July 20, 2006 Quote Would Winston Churchill accept being so addressed? Quote No. He would have retorted with "Sir, that is something up with which I shall not put!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #11 July 20, 2006 QuoteWould Winston Churchill accept being so addressed? Thatcher? Maggie would have paused briefly to slip an extra brick into her handbag, and... Dubbie would also have been well warned by Daddy that the correct way to get Lady Thatcher's attention is to raise your hand and wait politely until she noticed you. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #12 July 20, 2006 I personally loved his comment that Syria had to "get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit". I found that to be one of the most remarkably insightful things I've ever heard come out of the man! I did think it funny though when he goosed Angela Merkel however. (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_massages_German_Chancellor_Merkel_at_0718.html) ...reminded me a lot of that time a sloshed Yeltsin snuck up on an aid on camera and gave her a similiar shock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #13 July 23, 2006 Our President. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #14 July 23, 2006 Quote The fact that he kept chewing with his mouth open and talking with a mouth jammed full of food was the seriously disrespectful part. It saddens me that our representative to the world is not only an illiterate buffoon, but a disgusting slob with no manners as well. What a great example to our children. Very, very, very sad.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #15 July 23, 2006 I think this is more along the lines of "private" context. Officers will often address each other by first name in private official meetings (as a measure of example). Etiquette often adjusts to the environment.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vortexring 0 #16 July 23, 2006 No shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #17 July 23, 2006 QuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... Well duh...but PM Blair may have a similar rapport with President Bush. They don't do this publicly, and as you said, it was a private address. I've seen nothing that publicly disrespects either of them from each other.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #18 July 23, 2006 QuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) Maybe Dubbie actually said : "Yob! Liar!" in which case he'd be credited with intelligence & insight. As for Gordon Brown, I suspect he's still pretty Socialist so I wonder what'll happen to the Anglo-American-Entente if & when he takes over from B'Liar. I'd guess at a degree of cooling unless he takes over as Dubbie leaves and both leaders start from Square 1. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vortexring 0 #19 July 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... Well duh...but PM Blair may have a similar rapport with President Bush. They don't do this publicly, and as you said, it was a private address. I've seen nothing that publicly disrespects either of them from each other. What I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. Don't you think that's a mark of disrespect? I can't think of when I'd address someone just using their surname. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vortexring 0 #20 July 23, 2006 Yob! Liar! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #21 July 24, 2006 QuoteWhat I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. Don't you think that's a mark of disrespect? I can't think of when I'd address someone just using their surname. That's commonplace in the US. It's usually a sign of familiarity, and not negative in nature.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #22 July 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. That's commonplace in the US. It's usually a sign of familiarity, and not negative in nature. Rather than addressing him by his Christian Name? That's interesting. Is it more common in certain parts of the US? Where? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #23 July 24, 2006 QuoteRather than addressing him by his Christian Name? That's interesting. Is it more common in certain parts of the US? Where? I've lived in a good portion of the US (13 states), and had extensive visits in many more. It seems to me to be more prevalent in the south, and southwest (not including California). It's also very common in the military (mostly amongst enlisted). However, I encountered it everywhere at one time or another.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #24 July 24, 2006 Quote...It's also very common in the military (mostly amongst enlisted). However, I encountered it everywhere at one time or another. Taking "Yo, Blair..." in the context of a military affectation makes sense, and completely takes away any suggestion of an insult. In effect, Bush was addressing Blair as a "fellow-squad-member", part of the team, rather than as a vassal. Thanks. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vortexring 0 #25 July 24, 2006 Cheers Gwain 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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miked10270 0 #11 July 20, 2006 QuoteWould Winston Churchill accept being so addressed? Thatcher? Maggie would have paused briefly to slip an extra brick into her handbag, and... Dubbie would also have been well warned by Daddy that the correct way to get Lady Thatcher's attention is to raise your hand and wait politely until she noticed you. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 July 20, 2006 I personally loved his comment that Syria had to "get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit". I found that to be one of the most remarkably insightful things I've ever heard come out of the man! I did think it funny though when he goosed Angela Merkel however. (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_massages_German_Chancellor_Merkel_at_0718.html) ...reminded me a lot of that time a sloshed Yeltsin snuck up on an aid on camera and gave her a similiar shock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #13 July 23, 2006 Our President. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #14 July 23, 2006 Quote The fact that he kept chewing with his mouth open and talking with a mouth jammed full of food was the seriously disrespectful part. It saddens me that our representative to the world is not only an illiterate buffoon, but a disgusting slob with no manners as well. What a great example to our children. Very, very, very sad.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #15 July 23, 2006 I think this is more along the lines of "private" context. Officers will often address each other by first name in private official meetings (as a measure of example). Etiquette often adjusts to the environment.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #16 July 23, 2006 No shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #17 July 23, 2006 QuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... Well duh...but PM Blair may have a similar rapport with President Bush. They don't do this publicly, and as you said, it was a private address. I've seen nothing that publicly disrespects either of them from each other.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #18 July 23, 2006 QuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) Maybe Dubbie actually said : "Yob! Liar!" in which case he'd be credited with intelligence & insight. As for Gordon Brown, I suspect he's still pretty Socialist so I wonder what'll happen to the Anglo-American-Entente if & when he takes over from B'Liar. I'd guess at a degree of cooling unless he takes over as Dubbie leaves and both leaders start from Square 1. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #19 July 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteNo shit Sherlock? It still shows disrespect. (Although most feel Princess Tony doesn't deserve any.) I'd be fascinated to see how Gordon Brown might have reacted. As for Officers, we used to grab our "orange chocolate" and send him spinning through the sky... Well duh...but PM Blair may have a similar rapport with President Bush. They don't do this publicly, and as you said, it was a private address. I've seen nothing that publicly disrespects either of them from each other. What I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. Don't you think that's a mark of disrespect? I can't think of when I'd address someone just using their surname. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #20 July 23, 2006 Yob! Liar! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #21 July 24, 2006 QuoteWhat I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. Don't you think that's a mark of disrespect? I can't think of when I'd address someone just using their surname. That's commonplace in the US. It's usually a sign of familiarity, and not negative in nature.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #22 July 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat I can't understand is why he's addressing him by his surname. That's commonplace in the US. It's usually a sign of familiarity, and not negative in nature. Rather than addressing him by his Christian Name? That's interesting. Is it more common in certain parts of the US? Where? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #23 July 24, 2006 QuoteRather than addressing him by his Christian Name? That's interesting. Is it more common in certain parts of the US? Where? I've lived in a good portion of the US (13 states), and had extensive visits in many more. It seems to me to be more prevalent in the south, and southwest (not including California). It's also very common in the military (mostly amongst enlisted). However, I encountered it everywhere at one time or another.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #24 July 24, 2006 Quote...It's also very common in the military (mostly amongst enlisted). However, I encountered it everywhere at one time or another. Taking "Yo, Blair..." in the context of a military affectation makes sense, and completely takes away any suggestion of an insult. In effect, Bush was addressing Blair as a "fellow-squad-member", part of the team, rather than as a vassal. Thanks. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #25 July 24, 2006 Cheers Gwain 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
