Christian and Gay?

[Skyrad 0]

So I was just watching the news and there is a article about homophobic crime, on the TV there is two Vicars, one straight and one Gay. Do you belive it is posible to be Christian and Gay? My personal feelings is that it is but then there is same sex sexual acts which the Bible condems, or does it condem the person? Is a celibate gay person any more acceptable to God? What is your view?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[christelsabine 1]

I voted "Yes".

No christian here and I'm not gay. So, it should be possible the other way round, or not?

pondering... walking away still pondering...

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[Jaden 0]

We should be allowed to love whomever we want. To each his own... Either way. I, personally, do not believe it would make a difference. It seems unfair to condemn someone because they walk a different path to satisfaction. To love your partner & treat them with Respect is all that matters. Everyone is different, we have the right to choose our lives & our love.
That is just my view.
The Bible was written by men.

[Nightingale 0]

As far as I can tell, in the new testament, Jesus created a new covenant with those that would be his followers, giving them new rules to follow, and freeing them from the old behavioral restrictions under Jewish law, such as not eating shellfish. So, even if the old testament condemned homosexuality (and there's quite a bit of evidence that it does not, given better translations and understanding of the ancient languages), the new testament doesn't really mention homosexuality, aside from cautioning people against orgies outside of committed relationships (Romans 1:26), child molestation (1 Corinthians 6:9, Timothy 1:9), and bestiality (Jude 7).

[Remster 30]

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aside from cautioning people against orgies outside of committed relationships

So as long as you have a commited relationship with all invvolved in said ordy, no problem?

Remster

[Shotgun 1]

My view is that "God" doesn't exist, so it doesn't matter whether you're gay or straight.

And for anyone who believes in a god that passes such judgment, I feel sorry for you.

[windcatcher 0]

I am not going to express my view; however, I wanted to point out that God is the Judge over everyone who lives, and He will be the One we ALL will stand before on judgment day.
People can live their lives anyway they choose while on earth...and they will face God for the decisions they made while on earth. It matters not what I think, only what God thinks.

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[pirana 0]

I am not going to express my view; however, I wanted to point out that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Judge over everyone who lives, and He will be the One we ALL will stand before on judgment day.
People can live their lives anyway they choose while on earth...and they will face The Flying Spaghetti Monster for the decisions they made while on earth. It matters not what I think, only what The Flying Spaghetti Monster thinks.

There, fixed it.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[okalb 104]

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I am not going to express my view; however, I wanted to point out that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Judge over everyone who lives, and He will be the One we ALL will stand before on judgment day.
People can live their lives anyway they choose while on earth...and they will face The Flying Spaghetti Monster for the decisions they made while on earth. It matters not what I think, only what The Flying Spaghetti Monster thinks.

There, fixed it.

But we all know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster hates fags

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[masterblaster72 0]

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I am not going to express my view; however, I wanted to point out that God is the Judge over everyone who lives, and He will be the One we ALL will stand before on judgment day.
People can live their lives anyway they choose while on earth...and they will face God for the decisions they made while on earth. It matters not what I think, only what God thinks.

If there's one thing I can admire in your posts it's that you have not told a single person they're going to hell. That I can admire as it distinguishes you from other proselytizing born-again types that I've known.

edited to answer the OP's question: of course it is possible to be gay and Christian -- look how many gay priests there are and imagine how many have existed in the history of the church.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Skyrad 0]

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I am not going to express my view; however, I wanted to point out that God is the Judge over everyone who lives, and He will be the One we ALL will stand before on judgment day.
People can live their lives anyway they choose while on earth...and they will face God for the decisions they made while on earth. It matters not what I think, only what God thinks.

If there's one thing I can admire in your posts it's that you have not told a single person they're going to hell. That I can admire as it distinguishes you from other proselytizing born-again types that I've known.

LOL... Thats a backhanded compliment if ever I heard one.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[labrys 0]

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It matters not what I think, only what God thinks.

I think it only matters to you what you think god thinks. It doesn't matter to me what you think god thinks. It only matters to me what i think god thinks. And I don't think god thinks about it.

Owned by Remi #?

[masterrig 1]

I don't see why not. I really don't believe, being gay is a matter of choice but rather a geneological thing. Some folks are born straight and some, are born gay. I am well aware of the Christian thinking in regards to gays but, why shouldn't they be allowed to believe in God or Christ. I don't have a problem with it.


Chuck

[Amazon 7]

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It matters not what I think, only what God thinks.

BUT.. a whole lot of your bretheren feel it necessary to VOTE that holds a HELL of a lot of sway over others lives.

Doesnt hypocrisy suck

[Remster 30]

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But we all know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster hates fags

Only if they refuse to wear full pirate regalia.

Remster

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Do you belive it is posible to be Christian and Gay?

Off course it is, just ask the boys in Boston.

[SpeedRacer 1]

The Catholic church says that it is no sin to simply BE a gay person.

Speed Racer
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[masterrig 1]

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The Catholic church says that it is no sin to simply BE a gay person.

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Yessir! I think, it's what goes along with it that they frown on. Then too, the Catholic church doesn't have a whole lotta room to talk. Considering some of the things that have taken place among their clergy.


Chuck

[billvon 3,132]

Well, as it's possible to be a priest and be gay, I wouldn't think there'd be too much trouble being a layperson and being gay.

[Skyrad 0]

interesting, some people have voted no but don't have the courage of their convictions to post why they belive what they do.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Royd 0]

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My personal feelings is that it is but then there is same sex sexual acts which the Bible condems, or does it condem the person? Is a celibate gay person any more acceptable to God? What is your view?

Is it possible to be a Christian and a liar-thief- murderer.

Yes. Being a Christian doesn't make you superhuman.

All people calling themselves Christian should be celibate, except for those in marriage.

Btw, only the act of homosexuallity makes one a homosexual.There's nothing gay about them.

[Skyrad 0]

So you don't subscribe to the born that way argument?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[labrys 0]

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act of homosexuallity

There is no such thing as an "act of homosexuallity"

Homosexuality is a state of being. It's a sexual attraction to others of the same sex. It's not a thing you can "do". Having sex is something you can "do". Don't confuse the 2.

By your definition no one has any sexual identity until they actually have sex. That's just absurd.

I've most often heard the argument that you aren't homosexual unless you actually commit a sexual act from people who have doubts about their own sexuality.

Owned by Remi #?

[TrophyHusband 0]

according to what i learned in suday school, everyone is a sinner. i don't remember them saying that there was any one sin that was a deal-breaker.

i think that whether or not a person is a christian/mulsim/jew/whatever is between that person and their god and not something anyone else have any business deciding.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
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[pajarito 0]

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As far as I can tell, in the new testament, Jesus created a new covenant with those that would be his followers, giving them new rules to follow, and freeing them from the old behavioral restrictions under Jewish law, such as not eating shellfish. So, even if the old testament condemned homosexuality (and there's quite a bit of evidence that it does not, given better translations and understanding of the ancient languages), the new testament doesn't really mention homosexuality, aside from cautioning people against orgies outside of committed relationships (Romans 1:26), child molestation (1 Corinthians 6:9, Timothy 1:9), and bestiality (Jude 7).

Even if the Old & New Testaments didn't mention homosexuality as being wrong (which they both do; Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:27), the model for the family and sexual relations are always spoken of in terms of heterosexuality. God created the standard for the family unit and sexuality. Jesus confirmed the creation of Adam & Eve when he quoted Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 in his teaching.

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And he answered and said to them, Have you not read, that he who made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.
Matthew 19:4-6

As far as the question of whether one can be Christian and gay, it has less to do with homosexuality (whether born with those feelings or not) and more to do with the sinful nature which is in all of us and manifests itself in different ways. The problem comes in when one is acting on those sinful desires whether we’re talking about the physical act or in thought. If one is a Christian with homosexual tendencies, he/she will continually fight against that which he/she knows is wrong just like with any other sin. If that is the case, then I’d vote yes that it is possible to be Christian and gay.