warpedskydiver 0 #1 July 19, 2006 Evidence Chicago Police Tortured Suspects Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:59 AM EDT The Associated Press By DON BABWIN CHICAGO (AP) — Special prosecutors investigating allegations that police tortured black suspects in the 1970s and '80s said Wednesday they found evidence of abuse, but any crimes are now too old to prosecute. "It is our judgment that the evidence in those cases would be sufficient to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," Robert D. Boyle and Edward J. Egan wrote in a long-awaited report. Their four-year investigation focused on allegations that detectives under the command of Lt. Jon Burge beat suspects, used electric shock on them, played mock Russian roulette and started to smother at least one man to elicit confessions. No one has ever been charged, but Burge was fired after a police board found he had abused a suspect in custody. His attorney has said Burge never tortured anyone. Boyle and Egan's report said they found three cases with enough evidence to seek an indictment, including the suspect whose abuse allegations led to Burge's firing. That suspect, who was convicted of killing two police officers in 1982, claimed Burge and two detectives beat and tortured him with electric shocks. The special prosecutors also said they believe there was abuse in other cases that they reviewed but that the evidence wasn't as strong. "Regrettably, we have concluded that the statute of limitations would bar any prosecution of any offenses our investigation has disclosed," the prosecutors said. The statute of limitations on the allegations is three years. Several people who claimed to have been abused or tortured by Chicago detectives have filed civil lawsuits, and the report could bolster their legal claims. The allegations also have drawn attention from human rights groups. In May, a United Nations anti-torture panel said the Chicago investigation needs to go farther than it has. They said the United States should ensure that law enforcement officials who mistreat suspects are punished.Quote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@1840663627.1153330264@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdaddigflllkjcefecelldffhdfgn.0&contentOID=536883237&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Mayors+Office%2FAbout+the+Mayor%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Mayors+Office&deptMainCategoryOID=-536882177 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #2 July 19, 2006 Quote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #3 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #4 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #5 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #6 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. OOoohhhhh"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #7 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. OK, it WAS Reagan's fault after all, since the buck stops in the Oval Office.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #8 July 19, 2006 QuoteEvidence Chicago Police Tortured Suspects Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:59 AM EDT The Associated Press By DON BABWIN CHICAGO (AP) — Special prosecutors investigating allegations that police tortured black suspects in the 1970s and '80s said Wednesday they found evidence of abuse, but any crimes are now too old to prosecute. "It is our judgment that the evidence in those cases would be sufficient to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," Robert D. Boyle and Edward J. Egan wrote in a long-awaited report. Their four-year investigation focused on allegations that detectives under the command of Lt. Jon Burge beat suspects, used electric shock on them, played mock Russian roulette and started to smother at least one man to elicit confessions. No one has ever been charged, but Burge was fired after a police board found he had abused a suspect in custody. His attorney has said Burge never tortured anyone. Boyle and Egan's report said they found three cases with enough evidence to seek an indictment, including the suspect whose abuse allegations led to Burge's firing. That suspect, who was convicted of killing two police officers in 1982, claimed Burge and two detectives beat and tortured him with electric shocks. The special prosecutors also said they believe there was abuse in other cases that they reviewed but that the evidence wasn't as strong. "Regrettably, we have concluded that the statute of limitations would bar any prosecution of any offenses our investigation has disclosed," the prosecutors said. The statute of limitations on the allegations is three years. Several people who claimed to have been abused or tortured by Chicago detectives have filed civil lawsuits, and the report could bolster their legal claims. The allegations also have drawn attention from human rights groups. In May, a United Nations anti-torture panel said the Chicago investigation needs to go farther than it has. They said the United States should ensure that law enforcement officials who mistreat suspects are punished.Quote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@1840663627.1153330264@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdaddigflllkjcefecelldffhdfgn.0&contentOID=536883237&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Mayors+Office%2FAbout+the+Mayor%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Mayors+Office&deptMainCategoryOID=-536882177 Don't mean to take it off topic BUT. I've lived a pretty rowdy life all over this land (USA in my younger days) been in jail a few times. I could tell you horror stories. The fucking cops are goddamn gestapo when they think they can get away w/ itI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craddock 0 #9 July 20, 2006 We another fine example of why we call it Crook County That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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kallend 2,150 #2 July 19, 2006 Quote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #4 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. OOoohhhhh"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #7 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. And Jim Thompson (R) was Governor and Ronald Reagan (R) was President. Your point being? Do you have evidence that any official, D or R, condoned Burge's misconduct? Me personally no. I perceive the numerous visits to the Mayor by Federal officials, on so many occasions, regarding so many cases, of crimes, or corruption to be a remote indication that he will be indicted soon. I have no doubt that Daley's office is corrupt, but then so was Gov. George Ryan's (R). Corruption does not respect party boundaries in Illinois. I still doubt that Daley, who is indeed scum, had anything to do with the Burge torture cases. Please give your speech on where the Buck Stops. OK, it WAS Reagan's fault after all, since the buck stops in the Oval Office.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #8 July 19, 2006 QuoteEvidence Chicago Police Tortured Suspects Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:59 AM EDT The Associated Press By DON BABWIN CHICAGO (AP) — Special prosecutors investigating allegations that police tortured black suspects in the 1970s and '80s said Wednesday they found evidence of abuse, but any crimes are now too old to prosecute. "It is our judgment that the evidence in those cases would be sufficient to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," Robert D. Boyle and Edward J. Egan wrote in a long-awaited report. Their four-year investigation focused on allegations that detectives under the command of Lt. Jon Burge beat suspects, used electric shock on them, played mock Russian roulette and started to smother at least one man to elicit confessions. No one has ever been charged, but Burge was fired after a police board found he had abused a suspect in custody. His attorney has said Burge never tortured anyone. Boyle and Egan's report said they found three cases with enough evidence to seek an indictment, including the suspect whose abuse allegations led to Burge's firing. That suspect, who was convicted of killing two police officers in 1982, claimed Burge and two detectives beat and tortured him with electric shocks. The special prosecutors also said they believe there was abuse in other cases that they reviewed but that the evidence wasn't as strong. "Regrettably, we have concluded that the statute of limitations would bar any prosecution of any offenses our investigation has disclosed," the prosecutors said. The statute of limitations on the allegations is three years. Several people who claimed to have been abused or tortured by Chicago detectives have filed civil lawsuits, and the report could bolster their legal claims. The allegations also have drawn attention from human rights groups. In May, a United Nations anti-torture panel said the Chicago investigation needs to go farther than it has. They said the United States should ensure that law enforcement officials who mistreat suspects are punished.Quote Back then Mayor Daley was the States Attorney from 1980 until his election as mayor, and his father, among others that followed, were all fine upstanding Democrats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@1840663627.1153330264@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdaddigflllkjcefecelldffhdfgn.0&contentOID=536883237&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Mayors+Office%2FAbout+the+Mayor%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Mayors+Office&deptMainCategoryOID=-536882177 Don't mean to take it off topic BUT. I've lived a pretty rowdy life all over this land (USA in my younger days) been in jail a few times. I could tell you horror stories. The fucking cops are goddamn gestapo when they think they can get away w/ itI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craddock 0 #9 July 20, 2006 We another fine example of why we call it Crook County That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
craddock 0 #9 July 20, 2006 We another fine example of why we call it Crook County That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
