GQ_jumper 4 #1 July 15, 2006 I was in the gym yesterday and ran into a buddy of mine that was attached to my team during out last trip to Iraq. He just graduated Ranger school and mentioned that one of the guys in his class happened to be on of the Iraqi's that I trained and worked with during our last deployment. Ranger school is a kick in the nuts!!! And to see the Iraqis going through it now definitely makes me proud. Hopefully I'll run into them again on my next trip.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #2 July 15, 2006 QuoteI was in the gym yesterday and ran into a buddy of mine that was attached to my team during out last trip to Iraq. He just graduated Ranger school and mentioned that one of the guys in his class happened to be on of the Iraqi's that I trained and worked with during our last deployment. Ranger school is a kick in the nuts!!! And to see the Iraqis going through it now definitely makes me proud. Hopefully I'll run into them again on my next trip.good for you and your bud. Rambo brosI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #3 July 16, 2006 They are getting stronger everyday, nice to see all your hard work pay off. _________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 July 17, 2006 Quote...mentioned that one of the guys in his class happened to be on of the Iraqi's that I trained and worked with during our last deployment. Ranger school is a kick in the nuts!!! And to see the Iraqis going through it now definitely makes me proud. Hopefully I'll run into them again on my next trip. No offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! Prior to Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait, Iraqis routinely went through RMA Sandhurst, & RAF College Cranwell along with other places to train on British military equipment & doctrine. On the day of their Kuwait invasion there were even a couple at Dartmouth! Prior to 1979, Iranians were a fairly common sight at your Ranger School. Omanis, Iraqis, and (back in the pre Gaddafi days) Lybians were common sights at ANY British higher learning institute, whether it was military or civilian-industrial. It's actually a "Client-State" thing. Since their government is now friends with us again (read obedient & buying our weapons), then selected officers & the occasional NCO will train in the US or Britain. I'm sure that before long we'll also see them on our university campuses studying civil engineering & similar. Just like they were prior to 1990. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #5 July 17, 2006 QuoteQuote...mentioned that one of the guys in his class happened to be on of the Iraqi's that I trained and worked with during our last deployment. Ranger school is a kick in the nuts!!! And to see the Iraqis going through it now definitely makes me proud. Hopefully I'll run into them again on my next trip. No offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! Prior to Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait, Iraqis routinely went through RMA Sandhurst, & RAF College Cranwell along with other places to train on British military equipment & doctrine. On the day of their Kuwait invasion there were even a couple at Dartmouth! Prior to 1979, Iranians were a fairly common sight at your Ranger School. Omanis, Iraqis, and (back in the pre Gaddafi days) Lybians were common sights at ANY British higher learning institute, whether it was military or civilian-industrial. It's actually a "Client-State" thing. Since their government is now friends with us again (read obedient & buying our weapons), then selected officers & the occasional NCO will train in the US or Britain. I'm sure that before long we'll also see them on our university campuses studying civil engineering & similar. Just like they were prior to 1990. Mike. We have over 100 nationalities currently represented in our student body. We have Iranians, Palestinians, Israelis, Jordanians, Iraqis, Russians, Chinese (Taiwan and PRC), Indians, Pakistanis... About the only nationalities I can't recall encountering are N.Koreans, Mongolians and Tibetans. On the whole they all get along pretty well, like people generally do when politicians aren't stirring them up.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #6 July 18, 2006 No offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! Quote dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me. How could you take what I said in any way as being racist? Are you sayng that if I offer Tiger Woods my congratulations for being a great golfer that would make me racist too? And as for short-memoried, yeah I do know that we have had soldiers from countless foreign countries in our military schools, but up until recently Iraqis weren't exactly a common sight.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #7 July 18, 2006 QuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! Quote dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" Suggesting that their army (or Iraqis) have somehow improved due to the Coalition invasion & regime change to the point that some are now "Worthy" of admittance to Coalition military training facilities when they weren't good enough before. Admitting foreign nationals to American or British military training isn't simply done on merit, the main aspect is political. My point is that neither Iraqis nor their army have improved or changed to make this occurrence possible. What HAS changed is that Iraq is once again a British & American "Client-State", hence the re-appearance of Iraqis in western military training establishments. It's not some quality improvement that admits Iraqis. I'm sure that your former trainee already had it in him to do Ranger School. It's politics that actually got him there. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #8 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. Have you ever been to Ranger school? It's not easy at all. It's a major accomplishment for anyone who completes this program of training. In fact, most who complete "Ranger" school, are still not considered for the three (only three) Ranger Battalions in the entire US Army. I was hoping to fill a slot at Ranger school upon a scheduled return from Iraq, however, that is not likely possible now. It's no small feat, regardless of politics.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #9 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. . The thread's title is clearly political.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #10 July 18, 2006 But nothing about it is grossly racist. Some folk have no shame when projecting their issues on others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TypicalFish 0 #11 July 18, 2006 QuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.)"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #12 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TypicalFish 0 #13 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it. Fair comment, but that makes it political? I don't see how."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #14 July 18, 2006 An old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #15 July 18, 2006 "That's one small step for man" but not much of anything for mankind ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #16 July 18, 2006 QuoteAn old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. True. However, if she was a representative of the country of Iran, and it was a "new step" as a result of improved relations between the two countries, then it would be an accomplishment for Iran.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #17 July 18, 2006 *Yoda voice on* One soldier an Army does not make *Yoda voice off*When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #18 July 18, 2006 Well beiung in the UK you don;t know about the US Army's current slogan, "An Army of One" Hey, it wasn't my idea I just work here.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #19 July 18, 2006 LOL.... Actualy thats not far off the British Armys current slogan.... 'Together as One'When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #20 July 18, 2006 koom by ya! How much do we pay these wanker PR blokes for this crap? (see, I can too speak proper English Mom!)An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #21 July 18, 2006 Very good ol' boy! How much? WAAAYYY to much!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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miked10270 0 #7 July 18, 2006 QuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! Quote dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" Suggesting that their army (or Iraqis) have somehow improved due to the Coalition invasion & regime change to the point that some are now "Worthy" of admittance to Coalition military training facilities when they weren't good enough before. Admitting foreign nationals to American or British military training isn't simply done on merit, the main aspect is political. My point is that neither Iraqis nor their army have improved or changed to make this occurrence possible. What HAS changed is that Iraq is once again a British & American "Client-State", hence the re-appearance of Iraqis in western military training establishments. It's not some quality improvement that admits Iraqis. I'm sure that your former trainee already had it in him to do Ranger School. It's politics that actually got him there. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #8 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. Have you ever been to Ranger school? It's not easy at all. It's a major accomplishment for anyone who completes this program of training. In fact, most who complete "Ranger" school, are still not considered for the three (only three) Ranger Battalions in the entire US Army. I was hoping to fill a slot at Ranger school upon a scheduled return from Iraq, however, that is not likely possible now. It's no small feat, regardless of politics.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #9 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. . The thread's title is clearly political.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #10 July 18, 2006 But nothing about it is grossly racist. Some folk have no shame when projecting their issues on others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TypicalFish 0 #11 July 18, 2006 QuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.)"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #12 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TypicalFish 0 #13 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it. Fair comment, but that makes it political? I don't see how."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #14 July 18, 2006 An old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #15 July 18, 2006 "That's one small step for man" but not much of anything for mankind ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #16 July 18, 2006 QuoteAn old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. True. However, if she was a representative of the country of Iran, and it was a "new step" as a result of improved relations between the two countries, then it would be an accomplishment for Iran.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #17 July 18, 2006 *Yoda voice on* One soldier an Army does not make *Yoda voice off*When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #18 July 18, 2006 Well beiung in the UK you don;t know about the US Army's current slogan, "An Army of One" Hey, it wasn't my idea I just work here.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #19 July 18, 2006 LOL.... Actualy thats not far off the British Armys current slogan.... 'Together as One'When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #20 July 18, 2006 koom by ya! How much do we pay these wanker PR blokes for this crap? (see, I can too speak proper English Mom!)An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #21 July 18, 2006 Very good ol' boy! How much? WAAAYYY to much!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Gawain 0 #8 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. Have you ever been to Ranger school? It's not easy at all. It's a major accomplishment for anyone who completes this program of training. In fact, most who complete "Ranger" school, are still not considered for the three (only three) Ranger Battalions in the entire US Army. I was hoping to fill a slot at Ranger school upon a scheduled return from Iraq, however, that is not likely possible now. It's no small feat, regardless of politics.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #9 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo offence, but I'm unsure whether to call this grossly racist or short-memoried! dude, WTF. I make a post offering my congrats to a friend of mine for passing a difficult course and you take a cheap shot at me.... You DID post this as "Major accomplishment for the Iraqi Army" I saw no regard to politics in his original post. . The thread's title is clearly political.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #10 July 18, 2006 But nothing about it is grossly racist. Some folk have no shame when projecting their issues on others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #11 July 18, 2006 QuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.)"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #12 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #13 July 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe thread's title is clearly political. Is this sarcasm? It's a serious question; right, left, or in between it IS a major accomplishment for an army somewhat in disarray to be sending it's soldier's to tough, competitive training, isn't it? How is that title "clearly political"? (No, I am not saying it isn't politically motivated, the question is strictly in relation to the title.) How is it an accomplishment for the army to send one of its members to a school? Was the Iraqi Army in a level playing field competition with other nations' armies to send someone to Ranger School? What exactly did the Iraqi Army do that was more praiseworthy than the individual effort of this soldier to be selected? Good for him but I fail to see that the Iraqi Army deserves much credit for it. Fair comment, but that makes it political? I don't see how."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #14 July 18, 2006 An old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 July 18, 2006 "That's one small step for man" but not much of anything for mankind ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 July 18, 2006 QuoteAn old colleague of mine from Iran just got promoted to director, and she's doing really well in the new position. I think it's a great accomplishment for her - but not really an accomplishment for Iran. True. However, if she was a representative of the country of Iran, and it was a "new step" as a result of improved relations between the two countries, then it would be an accomplishment for Iran.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 July 18, 2006 *Yoda voice on* One soldier an Army does not make *Yoda voice off*When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #18 July 18, 2006 Well beiung in the UK you don;t know about the US Army's current slogan, "An Army of One" Hey, it wasn't my idea I just work here.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 July 18, 2006 LOL.... Actualy thats not far off the British Armys current slogan.... 'Together as One'When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #20 July 18, 2006 koom by ya! How much do we pay these wanker PR blokes for this crap? (see, I can too speak proper English Mom!)An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 July 18, 2006 Very good ol' boy! How much? WAAAYYY to much!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
