More USA Govt. intrusion

[akarunway 1]

Mark my words folks. Soon they'll want a chip in you and DNA sample at birth. And a camera in every home. All in the name of keeping you> SAFE<http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6091942.html?part=rss&tag=6091942&subj=news

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[dorbie 0]

Gotta love it when a bureaucratic agency in the executive branch writes legislation like this.

James Madison's mouldering corpse just increased it's rate of rotation by a few rpm.

They should just ask the NSA to tap into their back doors, and save our great grand kids some money. Mitnick can explain it to them if they're confused.

[rushmc 23]

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Mark my words folks. Soon they'll want a chip in you and DNA sample at birth. And a camera in every home. All in the name of keeping you> SAFE<http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6091942.html?part=rss&tag=6091942&subj=news

Did it bother you when Clinton signed the bill for this same intrusion with telephones?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

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Did it bother you when Clinton signed the bill for this same intrusion with telephones?

As a matter of fact ... yes.. it did..... and Carnivore... and all the other monitoring crap that makes for 1984 finally arriving here to keep us all(NEWSPEAK) free.

[rushmc 23]

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Did it bother you when Clinton signed the bill for this same intrusion with telephones?

As a matter of fact ... yes.. it did..... and Carnivore... and all the other monitoring crap that makes for 1984 finally arriving here to keep us all(NEWSPEAK) free.

Was........I talking to you??

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

Funny thing is.. I was talking to YOU and all your ILK who normally supports ANYTHING THIS administration does.....So I guess you dont mind being a hypocrite as long as YOU are doing it huh.

[rushmc 23]

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Funny thing is.. I was talking to YOU and all your ILK who normally supports ANYTHING THIS administration does.....So I guess you dont mind being a hypocrite as long as YOU are doing it huh.

Two posts, straight to the insults oh superior one......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

AHH so supporting your guys no matter what kind of crap they are pulling is an insult???


WOW....


Please step out of that corn field... the whispering does not seem to be working for you.

[freeflydrew 0]

This was a perfect discussion...

Someone posts something that is f*cked up, and should cause an uproar, and the first post by someone who is publically not a democrat, is "Did it bother you when Clinton did it?"

LOL ha ha ha... it's so pathetic how nothing gets discussed, and everything is simply divided by party lines.

What an embarrassment.

WHO CARES IF CLINTON DID IT OR DIDN'T DO IT?
IT'S HAPPENING TODAY AND TODAY IS THE PROBLEM

[akarunway 1]

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Mark my words folks. Soon they'll want a chip in you and DNA sample at birth. And a camera in every home. All in the name of keeping you> SAFE<http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6091942.html?part=rss&tag=6091942&subj=news

Did it bother you when Clinton signed the bill for this same intrusion with telephones?

Sure did. need to kill all the bastards in Washington and stert over

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[billvon 3,120]

>WHO CARES IF CLINTON DID IT OR DIDN'T DO IT?
>IT'S HAPPENING TODAY AND TODAY IS THE PROBLEM

For some, the only real problem is (perceived) loss of support for their party. Thus blame is a lot more important than solutions.

[Zipp0 1]

It a red herring. There are already ways to ensure anonymity on the net. Criminals will use stolen credit cards or false identities to thwart law enforcement.

http://tor.eff.org/
http://freenetproject.org/

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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

[kelpdiver 2]

If this progresses, I think I'll offer anonymous proxy service for a portion of my bandwidth. If we do for that what people have done for free wifi access, can kill the effectiveness.

[Zipp0 1]

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If this progresses, I think I'll offer anonymous proxy service for a portion of my bandwidth. If we do for that what people have done for free wifi access, can kill the effectiveness.

Or just use my proxy:

http://www.radicaloverthrow.com/

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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

[dorbie 0]

Not entirely unrelated IMHO:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/10/jefferson.ruling.ap/index.html

The annoying thing here is this is given a loads of airtime in the media and harrumphing by the idiots in congress but it's a nobrainer, some punk can't be immune from taking bribes given due process.

Now we have the FBI writing "sweeping" legislation and there's barely a mention of it in the news. I guess it's not atypical but this is so brazen that they're not even bothered with the usual veneer. Just get your patsy legislator to push your bill and issue a press release. Even the legislator thinks it's great being a shill, he'll go back home and crow about it like it's a good thing.

If these guys had been running the show when radio was invented every time you changed the channel your radio would be keeping a timestamped record. "You listened to Howard Stern? This really puts your conduct in an incriminating light!"

[Hawkins121 0]

Canada has lots and lots of room for you guys.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Canada has lots and lots of room for you guys.

China has space for you as well.

[Lucky... 0]

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Funny thing is.. I was talking to YOU and all your ILK who normally supports ANYTHING THIS administration does.....So I guess you dont mind being a hypocrite as long as YOU are doing it huh.

Rush just gets upset when someone interferes with his censorship.

[Lucky... 0]

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It a red herring. There are already ways to ensure anonymity on the net. Criminals will use stolen credit cards or false identities to thwart law enforcement.

http://tor.eff.org/
http://freenetproject.org/

You assume it's the criminals the gov wants to watch.....

[Lucky... 0]

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If this progresses, I think I'll offer anonymous proxy service for a portion of my bandwidth. If we do for that what people have done for free wifi access, can kill the effectiveness.

Then they'll persucute you for interfering..... but I do like the idea

[rushmc 23]

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Funny thing is.. I was talking to YOU and all your ILK who normally supports ANYTHING THIS administration does.....So I guess you dont mind being a hypocrite as long as YOU are doing it huh.

Rush just gets upset when someone interferes with his censorship.

I keep forgetting that no one is as smart as you and Amazon.

Forgive me.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Plucky 0]

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Canada has lots and lots of room for you guys.

Are you implying it's an internal US thing, and if US citizens don't like it they can leave?

Funny thing about the US's 'domestic' spying programme, the word 'international' is often used when referring to phone calls being monitored, and a lot of internet traffic is routed through US routers even if the origin or destination isn't in the US.

This means I am being listened to, and I don't like it one bit.

[Hawkins121 0]

are you that bored? Who is listening to you? The NSA is listening to your phone calls?

I've said it before in another thread about this..

They dont care who you are fucking.
They dont care how your Mum is doing.
They dont care what time your friends are picking you up to go to the pub.
They dont care about how you feel about your boss.

they arent listening to you.

I've had people tell me they've heard "clicks" on the phone and seriously thought it was the government listening to their conversation. I wanted to kick these people in the throat. But fear of prison sex got the better of me.

[Plucky 0]

I agree, nobody cares about how my mom's doing, but ... should I avoid making Osama jokes, and avoid mentioning words like 'bomb' in my usual joking banter with my buddies, or don't they care about that either?

Do you know exactly how the patriot act is being enforced, and what raises red flags?

Edited for a grammar error

[Hawkins121 0]

No, dont say bomb or Osama.

Exactly 3 hours 17 minutes after you say one of these words, an entire brigade from the 173rd Airborne Division out of Italy will conduct an airborne operation on your house.