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Quotebut no, you made a joke, right?
There was already so much bullshit in this thread, I just figured I would add to it LOL
QuoteIf it wasn't for the jews we wouldn't have had WWII
That's not true. The Nazi's discriminated against many different ethnic groups who weren't of true blue German decent. It may have been a different war had there not been so many Jews in Europe at the time, but Nazi Germany was still hell bent on creating their utopian racially superior society.
Try not to worry about the things you have no control over
QuoteQuoteYou don’t get peace by killing peoples children and destroying their homes
The fuck you dont.
Andy9o8 2
I've always been a student of international relations and history, so let's put this into some historical context.
In 1948, when the UN partitioned Palestine into 2 separate Israeli and Palestinian Arab states, the Arabs rejected partition (which would have given the Palestinians a sovereign nation immediately) and attacked Israel from all directions, bent on its complete destruction. Israel won that war (and its independence), but at the end of that war Egypt controlled Gaza, and Jordan controlled the West Bank.
Before the Six-Day War in 1967 there was no "occupied Palestinian territory" issue. From 1948 through 1967, Gaza was part of Egypt, the West Bank was part of Jordan, both Egypt and Jordan forced the Palestinians to live in squalid refugee camps and did not permit them to become Egyptian or Jordanian citizens or integrate into their societies – and, being police states, Egypt and Jordan brutally suppressed any Palestinian dissent or demands for independent statehood. Neither the rest of the Arab world, nor the UN, nor the international news media, nor the non-Arab world spoke a single word in protest on behalf of the Palestinians' living conditions, or their civil rights in Egypt or Jordan, or their entitlement to independent statehood. By contrast, Palestinian Arabs who lived within Israel's original borders since 1948 became full Israeli citizens.
Also during 1948 to 1967, Israel was subject to constant – daily – cross-border terrorism against civilians from Egypt and Jordan, and routine shelling from the Golan Heights by Syria, as well as constant threats of and attempts at military destruction from every single Arab country in the world, all of which were backed and supplied by the Soviet Union. Basically, most of the Arab world was allied with the Soviet Union. Israel was the sole stable, reliable, pro-US, anti-Soviet democracy in the Middle East, and became allied with the US much the same as the Western European democracies are allied with the US. (How often do you hear Americans complain, "Hey, why the hell do we bother being allied with the UK?" You don't, because the answer is fairly obvious.).
Then comes the 1967 war, where Israel occupied Gaza and the West Bank. Now, all of a sudden – Revelation! – the Arab world is deeply concerned with independent statehood for the Palestinians, and begins fomenting even more terrorism against Israel, much of it backed behind the scenes by the Soviet Union; but this time, not only are the Soviets using the Arabs as their proxy weapon against the West, but the Arabs are now using the Palestinians as their proxy weapon against Israel.
Why all the UN General Assembly resolutions against Israel? Simple. A large numerical chunk of those votes came from recently-independent states in Africa and other parts of the world, most of which were bitterly resentful at the centuries of demeaning colonialism to which they had been subject at the hands of Western European countries, who for the most part backed Israel. So the African states' diplomatically allying themselves with the Arab states and against Israel was fairly logical, but based mostly upon their own self-interest.
In 1948, when the UN partitioned Palestine into 2 separate Israeli and Palestinian Arab states, the Arabs rejected partition (which would have given the Palestinians a sovereign nation immediately) and attacked Israel from all directions, bent on its complete destruction. Israel won that war (and its independence), but at the end of that war Egypt controlled Gaza, and Jordan controlled the West Bank.
Before the Six-Day War in 1967 there was no "occupied Palestinian territory" issue. From 1948 through 1967, Gaza was part of Egypt, the West Bank was part of Jordan, both Egypt and Jordan forced the Palestinians to live in squalid refugee camps and did not permit them to become Egyptian or Jordanian citizens or integrate into their societies – and, being police states, Egypt and Jordan brutally suppressed any Palestinian dissent or demands for independent statehood. Neither the rest of the Arab world, nor the UN, nor the international news media, nor the non-Arab world spoke a single word in protest on behalf of the Palestinians' living conditions, or their civil rights in Egypt or Jordan, or their entitlement to independent statehood. By contrast, Palestinian Arabs who lived within Israel's original borders since 1948 became full Israeli citizens.
Also during 1948 to 1967, Israel was subject to constant – daily – cross-border terrorism against civilians from Egypt and Jordan, and routine shelling from the Golan Heights by Syria, as well as constant threats of and attempts at military destruction from every single Arab country in the world, all of which were backed and supplied by the Soviet Union. Basically, most of the Arab world was allied with the Soviet Union. Israel was the sole stable, reliable, pro-US, anti-Soviet democracy in the Middle East, and became allied with the US much the same as the Western European democracies are allied with the US. (How often do you hear Americans complain, "Hey, why the hell do we bother being allied with the UK?" You don't, because the answer is fairly obvious.).
Then comes the 1967 war, where Israel occupied Gaza and the West Bank. Now, all of a sudden – Revelation! – the Arab world is deeply concerned with independent statehood for the Palestinians, and begins fomenting even more terrorism against Israel, much of it backed behind the scenes by the Soviet Union; but this time, not only are the Soviets using the Arabs as their proxy weapon against the West, but the Arabs are now using the Palestinians as their proxy weapon against Israel.
Why all the UN General Assembly resolutions against Israel? Simple. A large numerical chunk of those votes came from recently-independent states in Africa and other parts of the world, most of which were bitterly resentful at the centuries of demeaning colonialism to which they had been subject at the hands of Western European countries, who for the most part backed Israel. So the African states' diplomatically allying themselves with the Arab states and against Israel was fairly logical, but based mostly upon their own self-interest.
Royd 0
This is the first and most important reason, even though the biggest portion of the world won't buy it.QuoteWell I support Isreal, because of Gods promise, he has a special place for them in his big old heart. And its never been very good to go against God and those he has promissed to protect.
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>The fuck you dont.
How many of your family members would terrorists have to kill before you decided that you would live in peace with them?
How many of your family members would terrorists have to kill before you decided that you would live in peace with them?
TheAnvil 0
Good post. Thanks.
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namgrunt 0
I did a google search
US aid to ISRIEL 93 billion
cost to each US citisen $17,000
and all we get was the USS LIBERTY
hummmmmm
but why
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US aid to ISRIEL 93 billion
cost to each US citisen $17,000
and all we get was the USS LIBERTY
hummmmmm
but why
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Votes... Its that simple... 1 in 3 american voters is Jewish.
Are you following SD's lead and posting bullshit, or did you really believe this?
Quote>The fuck you dont.
How many of your family members would terrorists have to kill before you decided that you would live in peace with them?
Cute.
Your questions are very funny to me. I have not read one on this forum that actually applied to a real situation.
1 in 3 of the few people who ACTUALLY VOTE are jewish. The jews are some votin mofos.
Gawain 0
QuoteVotes... Its that simple... 1 in 3 american voters is Jewish.
Nice try, but WRONG...barely 1% of the US population is Jewish, roughly 3 million people.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Yes I was wrong... My response was more tounge in cheek to something I read a few years ago... After re-reading it I realized where I went wrong.
The Jewish vote is VERY important in NY and CA which are usually the swing states in pres elections.
The Jewish vote is VERY important in NY and CA which are usually the swing states in pres elections.
Gawain 0
Quote1 in 3 of the few people who ACTUALLY VOTE are jewish. The jews are some votin mofos.
There were over 100 million votes cast in the 2004 election in the US.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Gawain 0
QuoteYes I was wrong... My response was more tounge in cheek to something I read a few years ago... After re-reading it I realized where I went wrong.
The Jewish vote is VERY important in NY and CA which are usually the swing states in pres elections.
Here, you are correct in this context: the political strength of the Jewish vote is highly visible. CA isn't much of a swing, neither is NY, they're pretty much a democratic party state in federal level elections.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Yessir, after you pointed it out I know I was wrong.
Eject, eject, my moms a whore and so forth.
Eject, eject, my moms a whore and so forth.
Gawain 0
QuoteEject, eject, my moms a whore and so forth.
Oh, I'm not done with you yet!! Think you can get away by ejecting? Now, about your mom... (won't touch that)
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Not many of the kids know about that ship or what happened. One of these days we need to bring back home her sister ship, the Pueblo, but that's another story.Quote---and all we get was the USS LIBERTY
hummmmmm
but why
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Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.
QuoteI've always been a student of international relations and history, so let's put this into some historical context.
In 1948, when the UN partitioned Palestine into 2 separate Israeli and Palestinian Arab states, the Arabs rejected partition (which would have given the Palestinians a sovereign nation immediately) and attacked Israel from all directions, bent on its complete destruction.
Ok... Now I'm confused. The UN told the Palestinians that they were taking half their land and expected them to be happy about it? I don't see how they expected any reaction other than the one they got.
QuoteOne reason I can think of is that they are our only true freinds in the Middle East.
Being the single country in the middle east that every OTHER middle eastern country wants wiped off the face of the planet. our association with them does nothing to improve relations with other middle eastern countries, it simply degrades it.
There are a lot of Americans, especially powerful Americans who are Jewish and recognize Israel as their homeland despite their American citizenship.
Personally i think they should be none of our concern, they should be able to support themselves by now, why not concentrate our aid in places that it is really necessary such as Sudan, Somalia, Liberia, etc.
*waits for the PC bombairdment*
Royd 0
So, are you saying that we should not provide aid of any kind to all of the nations whom we consider our allies? What's good for one is good for all.QuotePersonally i think they should be none of our concern, they should be able to support themselves by now, why not concentrate our aid in places that it is really necessary such as Sudan, Somalia, Liberia, etc.
As for all of those Third World African countries, they've been on this earth as long as anyone else, and are still killing each other over who owns the most goats. Sounds like there's a need for some serious diplomacy. I'll bet Madeline Albright could straighten it out.
pirana 0
QuoteQuoteI've always been a student of international relations and history, so let's put this into some historical context.
In 1948, when the UN partitioned Palestine into 2 separate Israeli and Palestinian Arab states, the Arabs rejected partition (which would have given the Palestinians a sovereign nation immediately) and attacked Israel from all directions, bent on its complete destruction.
Ok... Now I'm confused. The UN told the Palestinians that they were taking half their land and expected them to be happy about it? I don't see how they expected any reaction other than the one they got.
Actually, you're not confused - you are dead on; and that is the reason this will not go away. It was a blatant land grab, and we would do the same thing if it were forced on us. Well, we would do a more conventional thing, but only because we have the resources to do so.
If a group of immigrants with lots of cash started buying up land, and got the UN to back them in efforts to consolidate their holdings and declare an autonomous state within US borders, I think we would react very strongly.
The honest answer to the honest question is that we let it happen because Israel represents a friendly foothold in a very valuable place. It is basically a civilianized version of a US military outpost, manned by someone else's troops. Very convenient.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
Interesting. Thanks for the post.
We are all engines of karma
Total crap. Any proof?
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