Is UNITED STATES, INCORPORATED founded on christianity?

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George Washington, The United States Government is not in any way founded on christianity. Treaty of 1783.


28USC3002-The term United States means afederal corporation

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George Washington, The United States Government is not in any way founded on christianity. Treaty of 1783.


28USC3002-The term United States means afederal corporation

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i voted no, and I am a christian.

the government should mind the business of governing, just as science should mind the business of science.

And spirituality should mind the business of the spirit. Which is just as real to human existence as gravity. In fact it is impossible to interact with one another without it.

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i voted no, and I am a christian.

the government should mind the business of governing, just as science should mind the business of science.

And spirituality should mind the business of the spirit. Which is just as real to human existence as gravity. In fact it is impossible to interact with one another without it.

That is the expected answer that Christians will disavow that Christianity drove the evility that was the founding of this country. Thruth is, Christianity had a huge role in the foundation of thsi country.

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The cornerstone of all law is rooted in the Law of God.
Without that, law would be nothing more than the whim of the moment!

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That is the expected answer that Christians will disavow that Christianity drove the evility that was the founding of this country. Thruth is, Christianity had a huge role in the foundation of thsi country.

What exactly is "evility?"

If you're employing it to mean something bad, and claiming people should disavow association with the creation of the US gfovernment, rather than be proud of it, then I'd really like to hear what system you think is better that our constitutional republic.

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The cornerstone of all law is rooted in the Law of God.

"Rooted" is the right term. Unfortunately too many have forgotten or ignored those roots.

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There is no choice for "founded on evility"

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The cornerstone of all law is rooted in the Law of God.
Without that, law would be nothing more than the whim of the moment!

Yeah? Who's God? Is Sharia a valid cornerstone or just what we find in Levitical law, or are we talking about only the big 10? Culture, which religion can be a part, play a larger role in law. Science and compassion should be the cornerstone of Law...unless of course we really should burn witches at the stake, treat women like children, put to death those who commit adultery and cut folkes hands off for stealing.

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The cornerstone of all law is rooted in the Law of God.
Without that, law would be nothing more than the whim of the moment!

Ever heard of the code of Hammurabi?

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That is the expected answer that Christians will disavow that Christianity drove the evility that was the founding of this country. Thruth is, Christianity had a huge role in the foundation of thsi country.

What exactly is "evility?"

If you're employing it to mean something bad, and claiming people should disavow association with the creation of the US gfovernment, rather than be proud of it, then I'd really like to hear what system you think is better that our constitutional republic.

Evility is something that is evil.

As for your prompt to compare us to China or Korea; laughable. Let's compare to Scandinavia or other regions/countries that actually care for their people.

I'm not saying we should disavow creatiopn of the US, don;t need to be so extreme, just saying let's recognize slavery Indian schools, women with no rights, land owners being the only votes that count and a myriad of thigs that made the US an evil place at the time of its foundation. Can you disagree with any of the events I stated? Will you compare us to the worst nations and feel justified?

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That "evility" has more to do with a time period than any given country.

Those things, or their equivalents, were going on in other countries too.

I'm glad I'm American, I'm also glad to be living in this time period & not in centuries past.

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That "evility" has more to do with a time period than any given country.

Those things, or their equivalents, were going on in other countries too.

I'm glad I'm American, I'm also glad to be living in this time period & not in centuries past.

Oh, so currently is better?

We just stopped killing kids 9 months ago; one of the 7 countries still doing that. 19 of the last 39 executions of kids was done by the US.

1968 Loving v Virginia, 16 states had active laws that disallowed people of different races to marry - that wasn;t that long ago. Did other countries have that ever or at least then?

Adult executions - even Russia has stopped 30 years ago.

Health care - the most elitist, exclusive system in the world I would venture.

Welfare - very minimum compared to other countries.

Rate of incarceration - 1:138 Americans are incarcerated by corporate-run prisons for profit.

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Health care - the most elitist, exclusive system in the world I would venture.

Welfare - very minimum compared to other countries.

I'm sure you would voluntarily give up 60-70% of you wages so others wouldn't have to work at all.
BTW, those other countries are socialist, and compared to us their economies are a failure.

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Health care - the most elitist, exclusive system in the world I would venture.

Welfare - very minimum compared to other countries.

I'm sure you would voluntarily give up 60-70% of you wages so others wouldn't have to work at all.
BTW, those other countries are socialist, and compared to us their economies are a failure.

Your reply really only speaks to the welfare issue. What about the health care issue?

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If you're working, then you can get an employer sponsored health care plan.

(for those two items, having a low reliance on government sponsored charity seems to be a positive, not a negative - but try and tell that to someone enamoured with socialism. Or at least someone trying to get the votes of the "it's just my luck" crowd)

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evility is cool. I sprinkle evility on my breakfast cereal.

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Your reply really only speaks to the welfare issue. What about the health care issue?

Ask the Canadians about their wonderful health care system.
Why would someone spend the years required to get a medical degree only to have his wages doled out by the government?
There's a good reason Hillary care was rejected way back when.

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The cornerstone of all law is rooted in the Law of God.
Without that, law would be nothing more than the whim of the moment!

Ever heard of the code of Hammurabi?

That's trouble. You are insinuating that the Christian faith did not invent the rules by which to live.

Good point though. Most religious people are not aware that all currently practiced religions (except maybe Flying Spaghetti Monsterism!!!) are built on the foundation of religions that came before them, and before them, and before them . . . .

All major facets of Christianity are just revisions to similar, but distinct, previously held beleifs, that go back to Neolithic times.

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Your reply really only speaks to the welfare issue. What about the health care issue?

Ask the Canadians about their wonderful health care system.
Why would someone spend the years required to get a medical degree only to have his wages doled out by the government?
There's a good reason Hillary care was rejected way back when.

Just a few random thoughts:

On the one hand: Canadians who have the money to travel to the US for certain surgical procedures often wait less time and may get better care in the US than they might in Canada. Yes, I've heard plenty about how the quality of Canadian health care is comparatively lower than in the US.

On the other hand: Sometimes you simply lose your job, and can't get another one, or at least one with health care benefits. In the US, unless you're able to afford health insurance out of your own pocket, you're shit outta luck. In places like Canada, the UK, etc., you've got a safety net. I know several Canadian "snow birds" who winter in Florida, and might live here year round, but they return to Canada each summer because (so they tell me) Canadian law requires them to live in Canada X number of months per year to maintain their national health coverage. (I've never verified this - can any Candaians reading this verify whether this is actually true?)

It really is a dilemma. Which is the lesser of the evils?

One more thought: In the US, we're really big on entrepreneurism – starting your own business, building it from the ground up slowly, steadily, and hopefully becoming a success story. Being self-employed is no picnic; I know from personal experience. A start-up small business often runs in the red the first few years. Lots of small business owners in the US can't afford decent self-pay health insurance (and many simply go without); and lots of people who might take a stab at being self-employed are scared off the notion due to health insurance considerations.

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In the US, unless you're able to afford health insurance out of your own pocket, you're shit outta luck.

Which is why you never see people on welfare or illegals at the ER waiting to be seen, right?

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Which is why you never see people on welfare or illegals at the ER waiting to be seen, right?

I am sure the ER will see them, once paying customers are done.

How about access to specialists, treatment, medication, follow up care? etc etc

there is more to health care than emergency care you know.....

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i voted no, and I am a christian.

the government should mind the business of governing, just as science should mind the business of science.

And spirituality should mind the business of the spirit. Which is just as real to human existence as gravity. In fact it is impossible to interact with one another without it.

That is SOOOO 1960's..... get with the program mister.....

This is the NEW and IMPROVED Theocratic America.. Run from the pulpits of America's church's.

WE have a President who has it directly from GOD that we are to go after all the evil-doers in the world... well at least the ones who have natural resources that our large corporations need and pay vast sums of money to the right wing conservatives re-elections because they truely are believers in the MIGHT is RIGHT.. in the name of the Lord.

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In the US, unless you're able to afford health insurance out of your own pocket, you're shit outta luck.

Which is why you never see people on welfare or illegals at the ER waiting to be seen, right?

Oh, sure you do, but that just helps make my point, I think. If we had universal national health care, a lot of those people would be going to their assigned clinic instead of clogging up the ERs. PLus, the clinic would be compensated through the system, whereas ERs usually wind up getting stiffed on their bills for treating the uninsured.