Beerlight 0 #51 February 20, 2007 Quote Why did they apply so much rudder? Wake turbulence is a good possibility. http://archives.cnn.com/2001/COMMUNITY/11/15/francis/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #52 March 1, 2007 Update: EADS to lay off 10,000! PARIS, March 1 (Reuters) - Mass job losses and a cash drain at plane maker Airbus, battling to stay in the race with Boeing Co, put the spotlight on the power structure at the firm once hailed as an example of European unity. Airbus on Wednesday said it planned 10,000 job cuts out of its 55,000 staff in France, Germany, Spain and Britain and would sell all or parts of six of its 16 sites in the four countries. "Airbus is paying a heavy price for bad governance, a control by governments there where one should have had trust in the company," European Transport Commissioner Jacques Barrot told Europe 1 radio on Thursday, adding countries should abandon their national interests and focus on the future of Europe. He echoed comments by leading French presidential candidate Nicolas Sarkozy who said on Wednesday that the problem at Airbus and its EADS parent company was a "problem of leadership". The secretary-general of the European metalworkers' federation, Peter Scherrer, blamed politicians for not having fought harder to keep jobs. "If politicians had done that, than there would not have been such a massive loss of jobs," he told German radio. "Strikes are possibly a means to avoid bad decisions," he added. ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #53 March 1, 2007 This is the other side of the UEropean Govenrment's assistance to airbus - GOvernment meddling and forced inefficiency. The A-380 "could" be a perfectly good plane... But in return for government assistance, Airbus has to make the wings in Britain, the Fuselage in France, and the tail in Germany! There's been programmes on Discovery & the like on how they've overcome the problems of getting the bits together - the tail *NEEDS* a special plane to transport it to France while the wings *need* a special semi-submersible barge to get them out of the factory! If they built the whole frickin' plane in the one place (like Boeing does in Seattle), then the A-380 would be flying and selling by now with the company in solid profit. Ahhh... The endless fun that's had with socialised industries under political control. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #54 March 1, 2007 QuoteIf they built the whole frickin' plane in the one place (like Boeing does in Seattle), then the A-380 would be flying and selling by now with the company in solid profit. Boeing has had major, large body sections built all over the world for many many years, even with their current models. The had to modify 3 old 747s into pregnant guppies (like the old prop guppie plane) to move parts of the 787. It is usually called "offsets", to encourage a country to buy from Boeing. Airlines buy planes if Boeing is able to contract with local aerospace company to make parts. When airplane orders are announced, often the value of the offsets is stated. The difference, I think, is that Boeing is working and negotiating prices as a private company, with other private companies, so the cost is likely a better deal.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #55 October 9, 2007 Update: Sarkozy Promises Full Investigation of EADS Insider-Trading Scandal mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites