kenneth21441 0 #1 July 1, 2006 We can all do our part by making the sport either safe or danagerous. Based on how we act or react. It is everyones part to make it safe. Can you make it 100 percent safe? No, as we always will have a situation or problem that could not be delt with. The problems that Ive seen in the last few years is jumpers exiting with higher wing loads then what they are used too. Look at the incident reports and this is a sinceless way to die. Then we have injuries from hook turns not calculated to the point of being safe. Maybe Im a old school jumper or I just want to be around alot longer. A good point to remember there are no old stupid skydivers. Just a way to creat a bad name for others I guess. While I cant ever remember sex being safe. I must say that with some care and protection we can all live a bit longer. Why cant they find a cure for HIV i beat that they dont want to as they are making alot more in the drugs that used to keep people alive longer.Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #2 July 1, 2006 Quote Why cant they find a cure for HIV i beat that they dont want to as they are making alot more in the drugs that used to keep people alive longer. And "they" are hiding the real cure for cancer. You don't really believe that shit do you?My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #3 July 1, 2006 No way but when you look into it at times it seems someone is always trying to sell that ideal to you. To do one thing make there wallets fater and yours alot smaller. HIV is a trickey one as this thing is always changing. What was it some years ago someone had the ideal that HIV was a military germ that was released and they could not stop it.. A holleywood script that sounds like to me..Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #4 July 1, 2006 QuoteWhy cant they find a cure for HIV i beat that they dont want to as they are making alot more in the drugs that used to keep people alive longer. not that I'm a biologist, virologist or chemist in anyway, my understanding is that viruses are practically impossible to find cures for as they mutate - hence there isn't a cure for the common cold either. Except that the human body can fight a common cold in most circumstances but not the HI virus. This may be more of a speakers corner discussion though so I'll shut up on the topic again here. tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #5 July 2, 2006 check out newscientist.com if you want to learn about that stuff. theyve just designed a new type of drug for it. really interesting read."When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #6 July 4, 2006 Wow, my original thread has generated a second thread on another forum. (So where's the fucking "beer" icon ? Sigh...) Just for the record, I take HIV/AIDS very seriously, having lost a couple old friends to it, and being appreciative of the fact that it is a real global social and economic disaster. The point of the original thread has to do with the term "safer sex". Historically, the notion of "safe sex" came into vogue in the early years of the AIDS epidemic. And with it came the anti sex reaction, with horror stories like "condoms break" (not very often if used properly), "condoms don't work" ( a bald faced lie), etc. So pretty soon, some realists addressed the problem by admitting that any sex outside of the fantasy world of lifelong monogamy between two abstinent virgins has to be something of a crapshoot. But you can definitely make your crapshoot a much safer and more responsible experience if you follow some sensible rules about the practices you indulge in, with whom (and how many), and the protections you use. And "safe sex" was ratcheted back to the term "safer sex", which I think we can all admit is more realistic. So it is with skydiving. Personally, I believe our sport is "safe enough" or I wouldn't jump. It's the reason I choose NOT to BASE jump. Any time you jump out of an airplane might just be the last minute of your life and it's something that always gives me this little "uh-oh" feeling every time we open the door - no matter how much I love it. I'm also really AGGRAVATED by the way I feel too many people in these forums - including one greenie in particular - sound off about skydiving "not being safe". I believe that is not the message this website is here to communicate. The public at large already believes our sport is not safe and that we should all be put away in a padded room for our own protection. I am DEEPLY disappointed that the very people who should be defending our sport can trash it as easily and often as they do in these forums. I'm a realist, over the years the list of dead jumpers I've known has grown out to more than two dozen and I've personally witnessed five fatalities, so I'm not speaking from la-la land where nothing bad ever happens. But I do believe in "safer skydiving" as a real and attainable practice. Besides, the connection between fuckin' and jumpin' is something we all know and love about our sport. Skydivers will jump anywhere and with anyone they can. It's too funny to think about who you jump with, what kind of rig you're wearing, malfunctions, and dare I say when to go head down ? Life without fuckin' or jumpin' would be unbearable. Neither are risk free, sadly eithher one can kill you. But both can be made safer, and hopefully with good humor. Eat, fuck, skydive !!! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
