Zipp0 1 #1 June 29, 2006 This guy is out of control. I pray congress puts a stop to his defiance of them and the supreme court. Bush vows to pursue detainee war trials By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent 20 minutes ago WASHINGTON - After a Supreme Court decision overruling war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, President Bush suggested Thursday he would seek Congress' approval to proceed with trying terrorism suspects before military tribunals. "To the extent that there is latitude to work with the Congress to determine whether or not the military tribunals will be an avenue in which to give people their day in court, we will do so," he said. "The American people need to know that the ruling, as I understand it, won't cause killers to be put out on the street." Bush said little more, saying he had received only a "drive-by briefing" on the ruling just out earlier Thursday morning. The Supreme Court decided that Bush's proposed trials for certain detainees at the controversial U.S. prison in Cuba were illegal under U.S. law and international Geneva conventions. A separate opinion, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, appeared to invite Bush to go to Congress to seek the authority to change that, and Bush's short answer indicated that is his intention. The president declined to say whether the decision would prompt him to more quickly follow through on his promise to close the prison, as many world leaders and human rights groups have urged. "We will seriously look at the findings," Bush said. "I will protect the people and at the same time conform with the findings of the Supreme Court." Bush also warned North Korea not to test-fire a long-range missile, saying Pyongyang must tell the world its intentions for any launch. "Launching the missile is unacceptable," Bush said in the East Room news conference alongside Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. Bush said that he and the Japanese leader discussed concerns about what is loaded onto the missile and where North Korea intends to aim it. He asked the North Koreas to make their plans more clear. "There have been no briefings as to what's on top of the missile. He hasn't told anybody where the missile's going," the president said in a reference to North Korean leader Kim Jong Il. "He has an obligation, it seems like to me and to the prime minister, that there be a full briefing to those of us who are concerned about this issue as to what his intentions are." Said Koizumi, through a translator: "Should they launch a missile, that will cause various — we would apply various pressures. ... I believe it is best that I do not discuss what specific pressures we were talking about." Bush said the situation with Pyongyang presents an opportunity to increase global cooperation on missile defense systems. "The Japanese cannot afford to be held hostage to rockets. And neither can the United States or any other body that loves freedom," the president said. "And so one really interesting opportunity is to share and cooperate on missile defenses." -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 June 29, 2006 QuoteThis guy is out of control. I pray congress puts a stop to his defiance of them and the supreme court. Out of control??? For taking Justice Breyer's advice? From your quoted news article: Quote A separate opinion, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, appeared to invite Bush to go to Congress to seek the authority to change that, and Bush's short answer indicated that is his intention.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #3 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis guy is out of control. I pray congress puts a stop to his defiance of them and the supreme court. Out of control??? For taking Justice Breyer's advice? From your quoted news article: Quote A separate opinion, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, appeared to invite Bush to go to Congress to seek the authority to change that, and Bush's short answer indicated that is his intention. He is like an infant. When mommy says no, go ask daddy. Luckily, I think congress has had just about enough of him. We'll see. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #4 June 29, 2006 Quote He is like an infant. When mommy says no, go ask daddy. Luckily, I think congress has had just about enough of him. We'll see. House = 232 republicans 205 democrats 1 independent Senate = 55 republicans 44 democrats 1 independent Don't hold your breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #5 June 29, 2006 QuoteHe is like an infant. When mommy says no, go ask daddy... You beat me to it! The Supreme Court ruled by a majority. Therefore, Dubbie decides to go with a seperate opinion scribbled down by one of the minority!!? Sounds like he's only listening to what he wants to hear. My 3 year old & 6 year old does that as well... Unfortunately, this is a little more serious than: "You may not watch Scooby-Doo for 5 hours". Interesting that the "Drive-By Briefing" he received wasn't sufficient to answer press questions but WAS sufficient for him to make a decision! We're back to the same old question. Is he evasive and incompetent, or stupid as well? Mike. Edited to add: I'd also question Stephen Breyer's competence to remain in The Supreme Court. Since the thing was discussed and decided by the court as a whole, where the hell does he gat off issuing his own seperate scribble which contradicts the courts position!!? (And yes. I know he was a Clinton appointee. One can only assume that Slick-Willy was recovering from a particularly good BJ when he decided to appoint Breyer). Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #6 June 29, 2006 >Interesting that the "Drive-By Briefing" he received wasn't sufficient > to answer press questions but WAS sufficient for him to make a > decision! Well, that's one of the reasons he was elected. Republicans wanted a strong, decisive leader who didn't bother with all that wimpy fact-finding, decision-making, diplomacy stuff. That's emasculating. Pick a decision and stick to it, no matter what's actually happening! That's what Clint Eastwood would do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #7 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteHe is like an infant. When mommy says no, go ask daddy. Luckily, I think congress has had just about enough of him. We'll see. You beat me to it! The Supreme Court ruled by a majority. Therefore, Dubbie decides to go with a seperate opinion scribbled down by one of the minority!!? Sounds like he's only listening to what he wants to hear. My 3 year old & 6 year old does that as well... Unfortunately, this is a little more serious than: "You may not watch Scooby-Doo for 5 hours". Interesting that the "Drive-By Briefing" he received wasn't sufficient to answer press questions but WAS sufficient for him to make a decision! We're back to the same old question. Is he evasive and incompetent, or stupid as well? Mike. Will he press for a sonstitutional ammendment in this case as well? Will he back the USA out of the Geneva Convention? When, exactly, will he abide by the law? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #8 June 29, 2006 QuoteDubbie decides to go with a seperate opinion scribbled down by one of the minority!!?It wasn't a minority opinion. Breyer voted with the majority. Alito, Thomas and Scalia voted against, and Roberts abstained. Not that I agree with Bush, but, well, accurate is accurate. Sometimes I wish we had all swing votes on the Supreme Court, instead of "reliable" ones. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #9 June 29, 2006 Did you listen to the press conference? Bush was AWFUL. He rambled, he made goofs ("The United States has not always had good relations with America", "Our countries have been at war for 60 years". There was no structure or organization to what he said. Koizumi must have wondered why he bothered to come.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #10 June 29, 2006 QuoteWhen, exactly, will he abide by the law? He'll fully and wholeheartedly support the law and abide by it... Once he's decided what the law is! At the moment, he's still trying to make the law that he'll support (and failing miserably). Of course, the whole "America & The Geneva Convention" has always been a joke. Look at 1945, when the American (and shamefully British) attitude was: "War's over. They're no longer prisoners of war. So we don't have to treat them as such"! I think that this was the origin of "They're NOT prisoners of war... They're 'disarmed enemy combatants' and The Geneva Convention doesn't say anything about 'disarmed enemy combatants' ". Oh yeah... I forgot hypocritical when I said evasive incompetent & stupid. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #11 June 29, 2006 Quote"The United States has not always had good relations with America", "Our countries have been at war for 60 years". ROFLMAO!!! A new entry straight in at #1 in the "Bushism chart"! I'm betting that in 500 years, archeologists are going to find conclusive evidence of LSD in your water supply during your 2000 & 2004 elections. It's the only remaining explanation! The fact that in some people, the effects of LSD dont wear off for years would explain the remaining pro-Bush arguments.Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
