rushmc 23 #101 June 28, 2006 QuoteQuote>what would you pay (even if you are inocent) to stop the bleeding? What bleeding? What are you talking about? He's implying that Limbaugh paid the fine and signed the agreement solely for practical reasons. In other words, he believes Limbaugh has no principles and is willing to sign his name to any falsehood so long as it makes people stop harassing him. He paid no fine. He paid to offeset the cost of the (bogus) investigation."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #102 June 28, 2006 QuoteBecause the gullible and uneducated still vote, dude. Which party is always romancing the welfare crowd, felons, and illegal aliens. That sounds like a crowd of intellectuals to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #103 June 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've met a few women that made similar claims but none have ever actually backed it up. Most were nympho's or the type who read dime store romance novels and/or watched daytime Soaps. Their own lives were always very shallow and most had a deep hatred for men and used this as a way to degrade men. Much like the "feminists" of the past did. A large % of them were actually men hating lesbians, in my experience. Hmm why is it that inept male lovers ALWAYS roll out the lesbian label when they are the ones having the issue????? They tend to do that also when you look at them.. or listen to them ofr a few minutes and say thanks.. but no thanks to their advances. The really funny part is he seems to have missed the part about being with a good lover. Most men dream about being with two women. I suspect he dreams about being with the same woman ...twice. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #104 June 29, 2006 QuoteThe really funny part is he seems to have missed the part about being with a good lover. Most men dream about being with two women. I suspect he dreams about being with the same woman ...twice. He is also not too smart about women who are attracted to men and tell a guy they are not interested.. as opposed to women who are lesbian who are not even attracted to men in the first place. Personally I think there just are not enough conservative women to go around for all the inept conservative men out there who do not give a damn about their sexual conquests.... and that whole 2 minutes of glee they had as they got their rocks off. There is more to making love than a cock that stays up for 4 hours..... and if you cant even use it right for a few minutes in the first place... then 4 hours would be a very unsatisfying boring eternity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #105 June 29, 2006 >Thank you for characterizing my dear old mom so kindly. You asked if your mom was a drug abuser. I said I suspected she wasn't. You disagree with that characterization? Odd. >of whether having pills in a separate box outside the original >container constitutes "drug abuse", I'm gonna have to take that as a "no". Having legal pills outside an original container is not illegal. Having illegal pills outside an original container is illegal. Like I said, he can get all this dismissed by producing the original prescription. If he cannot do that he is in a bit of hot water. We shall see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #106 June 29, 2006 QuoteHmm why is it that inept male lovers ALWAYS roll out the lesbian label when they are the ones having the issue????? Because... Even if you KNOW you'll never get the lady, or any of her friends... You can always dream you'll get the video! Or is that a little too much detail & honesty? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #107 June 29, 2006 QuoteOr is that a little too much detail & honesty? I was always thinking it was a HOPE on their part that the girl.... naive though she may be... would try to prove she wasnt... to them. I always liked the comeback of looking them up and down.. and saying" well if you are the alternative to lesbianism can you blame me for thinking another woman might be a hell of a lot more fun." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #108 June 29, 2006 QuoteI was always thinking it was a HOPE on their part that the girl.... naive though she may be... would try to prove she wasnt... to them. A variation on: "Sorry, but I'm gay. Have been for the last 15 seconds!" A serious question: How does having sex with a man PROVE a girl isn't lesbian? Having sex with a woman certainly hasn't ever proved a man isn't homosexual! Mike. PS: I was going to say "Sleeping with" instead of "having sex", but surely there isn't all that much *being-asleep* involved, is there? Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #109 June 29, 2006 But in your case I wonder if you equate "gullible and uneducated" with "disagrees w/ my world view." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Well said. I don't always agree with Rush, but I have learned plenty by listening to his show. I learn about more newsworthy information from his program than I do from traditional news sources. I am a much better informed voter now than I was back when my only exposure to "news" was controlled by such sources as CNN, CBS, the Atlanta newspaper, etc. As far as his alleged "hypocrisy" is concerned, he has never had much respect for people who did drugs because they wanted to get high. It seems to me that becoming addicted to painkillers in an effort to ease serious physical pain would be a whole different matter. Anyway, he 'fessed up and sought treatment, which apparently has been very effective. One would have to be a petty bigot to hold this against him. Likewise his three divorces. Before we trash his alleged "hypocrisy" on this matter, is there any evidence that he wanted his marriages to end? According to the limited info I've heard, the women left him. Cheers, Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #110 June 29, 2006 When I had surgery, I had to fight with the anesthesiologist against being sedated. She insisted it was necessary. I wouldn't let her. The surgery was a bit uncomfortable, but I was a lot happier being aware of what was going on. Plus, I got to watch, which was really cool. Sometimes, you're given painkillers without being given a choice, especially when you've come into the hospital unconscious. They do what they think is best. Most of the time, people don't even ask what's being put into their IVs. I've had nurses come into the ER room to give me a shot (usually painkillers or antibiotics), and I stop them and say "wait a second, what is that and what does it do?" They always seem so surprised that I want to know what's being put into my body. If it's antibiotics for an open wound, I'll let them. If it's painkillers...if I haven't asked for them, I don't want them. Especially if I have to drive myself home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #111 June 29, 2006 QuoteAs far as his alleged "hypocrisy" is concerned, he has never had much respect for people who did drugs because they wanted to get high. It seems to me that becoming addicted to painkillers in an effort to ease serious physical pain would be a whole different matter. Nice Spin.. now lets try some counter-Spin.... http://www.nydailynews.com/10-02-2003/front/story/122839p-110349c.html The account Cline gave the Enquirer is that she became Limbaugh's drug connection in 1998, nine months after taking a housekeeping job at his Palm Beach mansion. It started after her husband, David, hurt himself in a fall, and Limbaugh asked how he was. "He asked me casually, 'Is he getting any pain medication?' I said, 'Yes - he's had surgery, and the doctor gave him hydro-codone 750,'" Cline said. "To my astonishment, he said, 'Can you spare a couple of them?'" Husband's pills Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic. "His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said. Hmmm not even prescribed.. sounds like a doper to me. Kinda hypoctical when base don his comments about drugs and drug users. http://www.rense.com/general42/oithe.htm We're going to let you destroy your life. We're going to make it easy and then all of us who accept the responsibilities of life and don't destroy our lives on drugs, we'll pay for whatever messes you get into." -- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec. 9, 1993 "I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say people are going to do drugs anyway let's legalize it. It's a dumb idea. It's a rotten idea and those who are for it are purely 100 percent selfish." -- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec 9, 1993 "If (Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders) wants to legalize drugs, send the people who want to do drugs to London and Zurich, and let's be rid of them." -- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec 9, 1993 "There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. "What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too." -- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #112 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuote>So, billvon, do you consider my mom to be a drug abuser because of this? If your mom was arrested, booked, then worked out a plea deal whereby she would pay a $30,000 fine and get treatment for her drug addiction for an eventual dismissal of charges - yes, I would consider her an addict. (I suspect that's not the case though!) Thank you for characterizing my dear old mom so kindly. That was very sweet of you. On the actual question I asked, of whether having pills in a separate box outside the original container constitutes "drug abuse", I'm gonna have to take that as a "no". You really went way off the deep end there in answering a very straight-forward question. Are you taking lessons from kallend? Billvon, how much longer do I have to take these personal attacks from JR? Two days ago he attributed to me a statement I never made, he could not (obviously) produce confirmation when challenged, yet called me a liar on account of it and refused to apologize. Now this.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #113 June 29, 2006 Nice Spin.. now lets try some counter-Spin.... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Silly me. I failed to consider the National Enquirer. You don't hate Rush because he was addicted to painkillers. You hate him because you disagree with him politically, and are annoyed that he has been very effective in educating people as to the truth about liberalism and its overall effect on the country. The fact is that every time people like Hillary Clinton get what they want, we all lose more money and more freedom. (For details, check out the thread on "civil liberties" that was discussed in this forum late last year. I think it was around October.) Cheers, Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #114 June 29, 2006 QuoteThe fact is that every time people like Hillary Clinton get what they want, we all lose more money and more freedom. What the fuck are you smoking..... DUDE... stay off that stuff... have you looked around at the Patriot Act?????? And how much has the Republican Party and this administration sunk into a fucked up war that they cant stop???? And all they give us is MASSIVE deficits that your grand kids will be paying for... Cut Taxes and Spend spend spend your childrens money.. yup.. good fiscal planning there buddy... I find LUSH Rimbarf part of what is wrong with the country....HYPOCRISY on a GRAND SCALE.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #115 June 29, 2006 Check out the "Civil Liberties" thread for details. Short version: There is a long list of things we were free to do 30 years ago which are illegal today. Most of these laws have been pushed and/or supported by the left. A short list includes seat belt laws, bicycle helmet laws, HOV lanes, anti-smoking policies imposed on private businesses, campus speech codes, restrictions on campaign financing, and the criminalization of free speech on a public sidewalk if there happens to be an abortion clinic nearby. I can think of few restrictions imposed on my freedom by the Rush Limbaugh-Newt Gingrich-Ronald Reagan-George Bush-Carl Rove-Jon from Kennesaw strain of American politics. Cheers, Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #116 June 29, 2006 Quote Are painkillers a medical necessity? I would think that you could heal from an injury with or without them. It might be tough to forgo the meds, but it seems like a voluntary choice to me. Unless you like 19th Century medicine, yes they are. Without it your ability to recover, or sleep, are seriously compromised. Or can be made worse in my case, where I'm running around (on the couch) with broken, unset bones. Quote So I wouldn't criticize someone who is addicted to street drugs any more than I would criticize someone who is addicted to prescribed painkillers. Regarding most addicts, I think they started out by making a voluntary choice to medicate themselves for some type of pain - physical or emotional. It may be an attempt to self medicate, but again not proscribed by an expert. Some number of the medical drug abusers had access to steal, but I have no idea what the relative numbers are. My aunt might - she counsels a lot of vicodin addicts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #117 June 29, 2006 QuoteI can think of few restrictions imposed on my freedom by the Rush Limbaugh-Newt Gingrich-Ronald Reagan-George Bush-Carl Rove-Jon from Kennesaw strain of American politics. I guess you believe in the facism of your guys is just peachy keen then. You did not even adress the Godliness of our president seeking to bring on the rapture with end times fanaticism... the deficits what the fuck.. after the rapture they wont have to pay anyway... the K street influence peddling and criminal activity by your favorite party....let alone the abuses of power such as spying on the american people... wanna bet it aint just AQ they have been targetting??? REAGAN.. BUSH.....BUSH.... that adds up to 18 years.. as opposed to 12 years of Carter and CLinton.. YOU are the ones who have been in the whitehouse MOST of the last 30 years..... yet you blame Hillary.. DUDE.. hallucinations from drugs are nasty things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #118 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote>So, billvon, do you consider my mom to be a drug abuser because of this? If your mom was arrested, booked, then worked out a plea deal whereby she would pay a $30,000 fine and get treatment for her drug addiction for an eventual dismissal of charges - yes, I would consider her an addict. (I suspect that's not the case though!) Thank you for characterizing my dear old mom so kindly. That was very sweet of you. On the actual question I asked, of whether having pills in a separate box outside the original container constitutes "drug abuse", I'm gonna have to take that as a "no". You really went way off the deep end there in answering a very straight-forward question. Are you taking lessons from kallend? Billvon, how much longer do I have to take these personal attacks from JR? Two days ago he attributed to me a statement I never made, he could not (obviously) produce confirmation when challenged, yet called me a liar on account of it and refused to apologize. Now this. Aw.... quit your whining. Geesus..........!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #119 June 29, 2006 QuoteAw.... quit your whining. Geesus..........!! LoL -- somebody call me a Whaaaaaambulance . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #120 June 29, 2006 Oh goodie..... Both of you are here now... let the fun begin. But we are missing a couple of your kabal maybe they will show up with some more right wing hypocrisy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #121 June 29, 2006 QuoteOh goodie..... Both of you are here now... let the fun begin. I just dropped by for my daily dose of Wit 'n Wisdom from the wacky DZ Left. As always, it's been very entertaining, but I gotta get up early . . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #122 June 29, 2006 Ack...Dis Fraulein ein here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #123 June 29, 2006 QuoteAck...Dis Fraulein ein here. Quick -- hide the nazi uniforms! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #124 June 29, 2006 Be sure to get a good spit shine on your jackboots before going to bed.... you would not want to dissapoint your boss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #125 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteAck...Dis Fraulein ein here. Quick -- hide the nazi uniforms! Quick-Hide the Constitution before she starts trampling all over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
