freethefly 6 #1 June 27, 2006 I just got off of the phone with Jacqueline Patterson (I posted 2 articles about her awhile back), an extremely amazing woman, we have joined together (my embroidery business and her connections) to create a new business that will get both of us off of disability while also providing much needed funding for some very important organizations that are truely geared towards real change in our communities. Our venture is in embellished apparel that conveys a message of involvement in our communities. Our concerns are child abuse, HIV/AIDS awarness, violence, drug abuse, medical cannabis and all other concerns that affects the communities that we live in. Building Blocks is an organization that was started by Christopher Largen, a survivor of child abuse. Jacqueline has been working with him and promoting this cause for some time now. We hope to be able to provide funding to further his message by being able to sell apparel with his message. PLEASE!!!!! follow the link to Building Blocks and read what is written there. http://www.building-block.org/ Hope you learn something!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #2 June 27, 2006 That is a shocking statistic! Had no idea it was that high.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #3 June 27, 2006 QuoteOur venture is in embellished apparel that conveys a message of involvement in our communities. I'll take three. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #4 June 27, 2006 I had absolutely no idea it was this bad untill I talked to Jacqueline and she directed my to Largen's website, Building Block. I have never really felt a need to get involved in much untill I read Jacqueline's story and even more so now that we have been talking. Some people just inspire others and I am so impressed with what she does. She is an amazing and inspiring woman."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #5 June 27, 2006 Right on! We are in the developmental stage at this time. I will be doing some designs tomorrow for Building Block and hope to run them on their approval of the designs. Jacqueline is doing a benefit with the Kottonmouth Kings (I am amazed at who she knows) next week and will be promoting our cause at that concert. I will be rearanging my own website to reflect community involvement and a percentage of everything we sell will go directly to community organizations such as Building Block."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #6 June 27, 2006 A very worthy cause. The web site could do with some serious (professional) design help, though.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #7 June 27, 2006 You are doing a very amazing thing. This world would be a much greater place if only there were more people like you. Thank you, with sincerity. Very cool site by the way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #8 June 27, 2006 Quote A very worthy cause. The web site could do with some serious (professional) design help, though. Do you have any suggestions to help make that happen? Do you know any designers who might volunteer their services? I love it when a plan comes together, and these folks deserve all the support they can get. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 June 27, 2006 You didn't say a single thing related to your subject title in the text of your message. Is this just an advertisement for your business? Let's do some math about "every 4 minutes". There are 60 minutes in an hour, and 24 hours in a day, and 365 days in a year, so that means (60 x 24 x 365 / 4) you are saying that there are 131,400 children raped every year. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports there are about 90,000 rapes per year. That's for women of all ages. About 45-50% of rape victims are under age 18, so that means about 45,000 fit your definition of "children". Therefore, I find reason to seriously question your statistics. They seem to be overblown by a factor of about 300%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #10 June 27, 2006 Well, many children who are raped are raped multiple times - even daily. Maybe that's a factor. And your numbers might be "reported" rapes. Not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #11 June 27, 2006 QuoteWell, many children who are raped are raped multiple times - even daily. Maybe that's a factor. And your numbers might be "reported" rapes. Not sure. PLus he extrapolated from adult reported rapes. Adult male reported rape is relatively uncommon. Specially when compared to male child rape both reported and unreported. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #12 June 27, 2006 Hi John Not sure how many child rapes go unreported Especially the ones that happen at home. Dads uncles, bro's, cousins, grand dads etc. Some families are in denial (kids lying) or don't want to see the bread winner go to jail. Anyone know who raped Oprah winfrey as a kid.? she didn't come out of that closet until recently. Just another dirty little secret. Wife abuse/rape used to be unheard of. Not anymore. Offical Stats are just that, don't make em right. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #13 June 28, 2006 QuoteNot sure how many child rapes go unreported I'm sure there are a lot. But if there is no way of knowing what that number is, they shouldn't just make one up out of thin air and claim it as true, in order to drum up donations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 June 28, 2006 QuoteLet's do some math about "every 4 minutes". There are 60 minutes in an hour, and 24 hours in a day, and 365 days in a year, so that means (60 x 24 x 365 / 4) you are saying that there are 131,400 children raped every year. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports there are about 90,000 rapes per year. That's for women of all ages. About 45-50% of rape victims are under age 18, so that means about 45,000 fit your definition of "children". Therefore, I find reason to seriously question your statistics. They seem to be overblown by a factor of about 300%. From http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/ncpca_statistics.pdf QuoteIn 1999, 70% of forcible sex offenses and 97% of non-forcible sex offenses occurred against persons ages 0 through 17. 1999 National Incident Based Reporting System (NIBRS) data analysis, Crimes Against Children Research Center. www.unh.edu/ccr 96% of all confirmed cases of child sexual abuse involve adults who are members of the child’s family or are persons known to or trusted by the child. Further, 84% of all confirmed cases of child sexual abuse occurred in the privacy of the child’s own home. U.S. Department of Justice. 2000. Juvenile Offenders and Victims: 1999 National Report. (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP). http://www.ncjrs.org/html/ojjdp/nationalreport99/toc.html The National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN) receives more than 300,000 reports of child sexual abuse each year (1996). In addition to the more than 1,700,000 reports involving other forms of child abuse and neglect. An estimated 89,000 cases of child sexual abuse were substantiated in 2000. Crimes Against Children Research Center projections based on estimates from, Child Maltreatment (1990-2000). Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Heath and Human Services, Children’s Bureau. A U.S. DOJ survey of 12 states from 1991-1996 found the following: Females were more than six times as likely as males to be the victims of sexual assaults know to law enforcement agencies. More specifically, 86% of all victims of sexual assault were female. The relative proportion of female victims generally increased with age. Sixty-nine percent of victims under the age of 6 were female, compared with 73% of victims under age 12, and 82% of all juvenile (under age 18) victims. The female proportion of sexual assault victims reached 90% at age 13 and 95% at age 19. Based on the NIBRS data, the year in a male’s life when is most likely to be the victim of a sexual assault is age 4. By age 17 his risk of victimization has been cut by a factor of 5. A female’s year of greatest risk is age 14. Her risk drops to half the peak level by age 17 and to a fifth by age 27. In general, assaults of juvenile victims were more likely to result in arrest (29%) than were adult victimizations (22%). Assaults against the youngest victims were the least likely of juvenile victimizations to result in arrest. An offender was arrested in just 19% of the sexual assaults of children under the age of 6, compared to 33% of victims ages 6 through 11, and 32% of victims ages 12-17. Based on NIBRS date, crimes against juvenile victims are the large majority (67%) of sexual assaults handled by law enforcement agencies. One of every seven victims was under the age of 6, and over a third of all sexual assaults involved a victim who was under the age of 12. U.S. Department of Justice. 2000. Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement: Victim, Incident, and Offender Characteristics. (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Justice, National Center for Juvenile Justice). http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf To find more statistical information on issues related to child abuse please go to our Links page. http://www.ndaa-apri.org/links/child_abuse_links.html Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #15 June 28, 2006 QuoteI just got off of the phone with Jacqueline Patterson (I posted 2 articles about her awhile back), an extremely amazing woman, we have joined together (my embroidery business and her connections) to create a new business that will get both of us off of disability while also providing much needed funding for some very important organizations that are truely geared towards real change in our communities. Our venture is in embellished apparel that conveys a message of involvement in our communities. Our concerns are child abuse, HIV/AIDS awarness, violence, drug abuse, medical cannabis and all other concerns that affects the communities that we live in. Building Blocks is an organization that was started by Christopher Largen, a survivor of child abuse. Jacqueline has been working with him and promoting this cause for some time now. We hope to be able to provide funding to further his message by being able to sell apparel with his message. PLEASE!!!!! follow the link to Building Blocks and read what is written there. http://www.building-block.org/ Hope you learn something! Sorry, but my Critical-Thinking BS Alarm is going off. A shocking statistic and an attention-grabbing headline do not public policy make. Naturally, I will immediately get dog-piled on this thread for daring to question this statistic. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #16 June 28, 2006 I'm guessing that actual rapes of children are higher then the goverment's statistic, but not as high as this 1 every 4 minutes thing. Its gotta be the multiple rape thing that raises the numbers MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #17 June 28, 2006 That is not the point... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #18 June 28, 2006 John, the information is at Chris's website. I provided a link as he can convey the message far greater than I can as he lived through the abuse. http://www.building-block.org/ This is not an advertisement for our business and we are not looking to get rich from this as a large portion of sales will go directly to organizations that are honest in their intentions. Jacqueline directed me to Building - Block and suggested that we work with them. She her self is a survivor of a kidnapping and rape and has known Chris for a number of years and she does work closely with him and his organization. My own personal agenda is HIV/AIDS awarness. I truely hope that what Jacqueline and I are doing will make a difference. I hope that each and every person can stop and think of what it is that they can do to bring about change. Whether it is child abuse, HIV/AIDS, all forms of cancer, domestic violence, street crimes, gang violence, ect... only by being active does change happen. How often have you read of an injustice and have said "Someone should do something". Why pass the buck when you can do something. You can post links. You can talk about it with family, friends, neighbors and co-workers. The only thing that does nothing is to do nothing. Be active in securing a better world for your children and their future children. Get involved."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #19 June 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteNot sure how many child rapes go unreported I'm sure there are a lot. But if there is no way of knowing what that number is, they shouldn't just make one up out of thin air and claim it as true, in order to drum up donations. I'll guess they took known numnbers and factored in for unreported incidents; not to mention the victims of multiple rapes. I seriously doubt they just made it up, but I wasn't there; so I guess you're accussing them of lying is technically just as valid as my trusting they applied some diligence to the process. I don't see that any discrepancy of the magnitude being examined is relevant to the effort they have chosen to undertake. Unless you think 130,000 is worth doing something about; but half that number is acceptable?" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #20 June 28, 2006 Quote Therefore, I find reason to seriously question your statistics. They seem to be overblown by a factor of about 300%. so a child rape every hour would be acceptable to you? T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #21 June 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteTherefore, I find reason to seriously question your statistics. They seem to be overblown by a factor of about 300%. so a child rape every hour would be acceptable to you? You need some serious help with your deductive reasoning. If it's okay to inflate statistics to get attention for a good cause, then why stop at "one every four minutes". Why not go for "one every four seconds"? It's just a question of honesty and truth. Not that the issue is unimportant. And since the issue is important, they shouldn't have to inflate the numbers to get attention. Fear-mongering does nothing to bolster their cause. But false statistics can do much to ruin it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #22 June 28, 2006 QuoteIf it's okay to inflate statistics to get attention for a good cause, then why stop at "one every four minutes". Why not go for "one every four seconds"? It's just a question of honesty and truth. Not that the issue is unimportant. And since the issue is important, they shouldn't have to inflate the numbers to get attention. Fear-mongering does nothing to bolster their cause. But false statistics can do much to ruin it. Coming from you that is pretty funny. Personally, I would rather fear mongering is used to increase donations for a worthy cause like child abuse. I much prefer that over fear mongering so you can invade another country.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #23 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteIf it's okay to inflate statistics to get attention for a good cause, then why stop at "one every four minutes". Why not go for "one every four seconds"? It's just a question of honesty and truth. Not that the issue is unimportant. And since the issue is important, they shouldn't have to inflate the numbers to get attention. Fear-mongering does nothing to bolster their cause. But false statistics can do much to ruin it. Coming from you that is pretty funny. Personally, I would rather fear mongering is used to increase donations for a worthy cause like child abuse. I much prefer that over fear mongering so you can invade another country.... not that the one has jack to do with the other. I prefer facts, even for a good cause. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #24 June 29, 2006 The statistics that they use comes from the Department of Justice. Building BLOCK is a nationaly recognized and respected organization that works closely with many other organization."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #25 June 29, 2006 Quotenot that the one has jack to do with the other. Only if you are a staunch believer that fear mongering wasn't used to create support for the war in Iraq. Mind you, all the charity has to do was say they were misinformed....you know, faulty intelligence.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
