ryanocerous 0 #101 June 29, 2006 QuoteSo, forbidding business owners from allowing their voluntary patrons to smoke is "better". That sounds like an usurpation of private property rights to me. Let's see, the logic goes: smoking is bad for you, therefore we are going to make it illegal to do it in public. To continue with where this might lead: drinking alcohol is bad for you, ah, well, you draw your own conclusion with slippery slope reasoning... I think freedom dictates that we should let the market decide on this issue. If some enterprising bar owner wants to open a non-smoking bar, he'll be rewarded with lots of business. Government shouldn't be deciding it for everyone. It's not about smoking being bad for YOU, it's not only about smoking being bad for those around you, but very unpleasant to a non-smoker. The majority of the public are non-smokers, so why should we cater to the minority? These public smoking bans don't say you can't smoke in public, just that you can't smoke in public establishments. It would be common courtesy to go outside for a cigarette in the company of non-smokers anyways! Who wants to come home from a bar smelling like the Marlboro man? I don't have a beef against smokers, i just don't want to breathe the shit whenever i go out. You can always just stick some nicotrol patches all over yourself. Ooo i feel sooo wooooozy YAY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #102 June 29, 2006 QuoteCool. Figured they would be exempted. I support that. You remind me of the DEA agent that shot himself in the foot a couple years back. For the third time -- why are Cigars different than Jack 'n Marlboros? Have you no rational argument on this? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #103 June 29, 2006 Gee I thought you ultra righties learned from Clinton the uses of cigars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #104 June 29, 2006 QuoteGee I thought you ultra righties learned from Clinton the uses of cigars. I bet Bubba smoked it later. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #105 June 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteGee I thought you ultra righties learned from Clinton the uses of cigars. I bet Bubba smoked it later. "That Woman" was disgusting. You'd think he could have done better. I would be embarrased to death to have anyone find out I stuck it in that thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #106 June 29, 2006 Gawd you guys.... you are still pissed at him for getting any at all...since yall are all deprived in that area with your conservative banter not working except at church and that aint all that productive for your sex lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #107 June 29, 2006 QuoteGawd you guys.... you are still pissed at him for getting any at all...since yall are all deprived in that area with your conservative banter not working except at church and that aint all that productive for your sex lives. I'm not religious. Now what should I do to get laid? hey we could start a thread called "Ask Amazon." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #108 June 29, 2006 Quotehey we could start a thread called "Ask Amazon." Dear Amazon, I have a friend who's looking for a tall, domineering woman to do him from the rear while he wears his white hood and shouts nazi slogans at the moon. Can you help him? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #109 June 29, 2006 By alll means I have just the solution for you. Buy a SW Airlines ticket into Midway in Chicago. Once you are there you need to take the short hike north to 55th St and head east to Jackson Park on Lake Michigan. I am sure you will be able to find just what you are looking for from the locals there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #110 June 29, 2006 QuoteBy alll means I have just the solution for you. Buy a SW Airlines ticket into Midway in Chicago. Once you are there you need to take the short hike north to 55th St and head east to Jackson Park on Lake Michigan. I am sure you will be able to find just what you are looking for from the locals there. How do you know this? Old stomping grounds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #111 June 29, 2006 My stepfather used to be a cameraman for WBBM....I think the people in that area would love to help out a guy who thinks sheets and swastikas are fashion statements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #112 June 30, 2006 If you'd read the thread, you'd have found I already answered your question. Simon even responded here with some excellent points. You've yet to answer either of my questions. I'll answer for you since you don't seem to want to. 1) Are farmers bending their lives around you by not using DDT and using other pesticides? No, they are not. They're using different pesticides that are non-carcinogenic so people consuming their products are not exposed to carcinogens unnecessarily. Following the law - as smokers in CO soon will be when they aren't smoking in bars anymore. 2) What's the difference between someone spraying DDT into the air and someone smoking? Other than the by-products as discussed previously, not much from the point of the victims exposed to the chemicals - if the carcinogens were diluted into equal concentrations. There. Now I've answered my own questions. I feel better. CO will be a much nicer place to go out for a drink because of this. With the recent Surgeon General's report, I suspect more states, towns, cities, & municipalities will follow suit - for the improved health of all. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #113 June 30, 2006 Lunch today will be the last time I will have to put up with inhaling other people's smoke. Tomorrow, the air will be cleaner in CO. Interesting that we agree on this. May be a first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #114 June 30, 2006 Could be the first. I wonder how long it will take to get the stench out? I have a lot of friends who smoke - many of them very intelligent. I wish they would stop, but enjoy their company immensely nonetheless. One of the big shocks coming from CA to FL was that people smoke in bars here. Disgusting. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #115 June 30, 2006 QuoteCould be the first. I wonder how long it will take to get the stench out? I have a lot of friends who smoke - many of them very intelligent. I wish they would stop, but enjoy their company immensely nonetheless. One of the big shocks coming from CA to FL was that people smoke in bars here. Disgusting. I thought the exact same thing moving to CO from CA. Business lunches are going to be so much better starting Monday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #116 June 30, 2006 You can get In and Out Burgers in CA too. Or do they have those in CO? In & Out kicks ass! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #117 June 30, 2006 QuoteYou can get In and Out Burgers in CA too. Or do they have those in CO? In & Out kicks ass! None in CO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #118 June 30, 2006 > In & Out kicks ass! In n Out used to be CA only; I think they have since expanded to Nevada and Arizona. No CO yet. Currently the only fast-food burger I'll eat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #119 June 30, 2006 Quote> In & Out kicks ass! In n Out used to be CA only; I think they have since expanded to Nevada and Arizona. No CO yet. Currently the only fast-food burger I'll eat. Definatly no In & Out in CO. One of the things I always do when I go to Vegas is go by In & Out. I always order "animal style" much better that way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #120 June 30, 2006 Whoa! I missed In & Out the last time I was in Vegas! Must have been to wasted... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #121 June 30, 2006 QuoteWhoa! I missed In & Out the last time I was in Vegas! Must have been to wasted... Yeah, it's on the other side of the highway so it's kind of a hike from the strip when you're wasted....good times! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #122 June 30, 2006 No wonder I missed it. Next time I'm in Vegas, In & Out is getting a visit from me. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #123 June 30, 2006 QuoteCurrently the only fast-food burger I'll eat. Because of the taste? Or some other reason such as the company's ethics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #124 June 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteCurrently the only fast-food burger I'll eat. Because of the taste? Or some other reason such as the company's ethics? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #125 June 30, 2006 Don't laugh at me. I'm feeling sensitive today. It was an honest question. I know nothing of the ethics of In-N-Out, but it seems like the sort of thing Bill might know about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
