akarunway 1 #1 June 16, 2006 http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060616050209990001&ncid=NWS00010000000001I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 June 16, 2006 I think there is a difference between those that stole valuable rescue equipment and supplies, and those who picked up trinkets from the rubble as momentos. The former should be prosecuted, while I don't see the latter as being a bid deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #3 June 17, 2006 QuoteI think there is a difference between those that stole valuable rescue equipment and supplies, and those who picked up trinkets from the rubble as momentos. The former should be prosecuted, while I don't see the latter as being a bid deal. I beg to differ. LAW ENFORCEMENT>FBI. Still theft. They are supposed to protect us and they are fucking thieves too. I can't believe you. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #4 June 17, 2006 QuoteI beg to differ. LAW ENFORCEMENT>FBI. Still theft. They are supposed to protect us and they are fucking thieves too. I can't believe you. So the guy that picked up a snow globe from the rubble as a momento - he should be proescuted for theft? What should his punishment be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #5 June 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI beg to differ. LAW ENFORCEMENT>FBI. Still theft. They are supposed to protect us and they are fucking thieves too. I can't believe you. So the guy that picked up a snow globe from the rubble as a momento - he should be proescuted for theft? What should his punishment be?I pretty sure all that stuff was supposed to be under some sort of protection til the investigation was over. I don't know. What was the value of the globe? Misdemeanor or felony? And he should lose his job at least. I would if I were to get caught stealing and be "PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #6 June 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo the guy that picked up a snow globe from the rubble as a momento - he should be proescuted for theft? What should his punishment be?I pretty sure all that stuff was supposed to be under some sort of protection til the investigation was over. I don't know. What was the value of the globe? Misdemeanor or felony? The value of a snow globe is about $5 and up. And it sure as heck didn't represent any kind of forensic evidence needed to figure out what happened at the World Trade Center. I don't think the terrorists were dropping explosives in snow globes. So, if you take an ink pen home from work, should you be fired from your job and prosecuted for theft? Snow Globes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #7 June 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo the guy that picked up a snow globe from the rubble as a momento - he should be proescuted for theft? What should his punishment be?I pretty sure all that stuff was supposed to be under some sort of protection til the investigation was over. I don't know. What was the value of the globe? Misdemeanor or felony? The value of a snow globe is about $5 and up. And it sure as heck didn't represent any kind of forensic evidence needed to figure out what happened at the World Trade Center. I don't think the terrorists were dropping explosives in snow globes. So, if you take an ink pen home from work, should you be fired from your job and prosecuted for theft? Snow Globes Fuckin A. What? They get a pass cause they are the FBI? Should be all the more reason to prosecute them. Hopefully it was their 3rd strike then they could get life under the 3 strikes law. But if was some pissant stealing a bottle a booze you'd thow him under the jail I'd bet. Edit to add. My old man. Full Bird Col. USAF> "If you'd steal a nickel you's steal a dollar". You'll defend this decrepit govt. of ours til your dieing day I'm willing to bet. PatheticI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 June 19, 2006 QuoteFuckin A. What? They get a pass cause they are the FBI? Should be all the more reason to prosecute them. Hopefully it was their 3rd strike then they could get life under the 3 strikes law. But if was some pissant stealing a bottle a booze you'd thow him under the jail I'd bet. Edit to add. My old man. Full Bird Col. USAF> "If you'd steal a nickel you's steal a dollar". You'll defend this decrepit govt. of ours til your dieing day I'm willing to bet. Pathetic So, if you take an ink pen home from work, should you be fired from your job and prosecuted for theft? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 June 20, 2006 QuoteSo, if you take an ink pen home from work, should you be fired from your job and prosecuted for theft? Still awaiting your answer... The silence is deafening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #10 June 20, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo, if you take an ink pen home from work, should you be fired from your job and prosecuted for theft? Still awaiting your answer... The silence is deafening. So you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 June 20, 2006 QuoteSo you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? That's what I'm trying to find out from akarunway. He seems to think that picking up a $5 snow globe as a momento from a pile of rubble deserves the same punishment as intentionally stealing tens of thousands of dollars of critically needed emergency supplies, like generators. And if that's the case, then stealing a pen from work should fall into the same category too. I suspect he is silent on this question, because he's taken ink pens home from work before himself, and he knows it ruins his argument and his outrage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 June 20, 2006 What's all this crap about artifacts? There's a difference between diverting and stealing tons of relief supplies and being in posession of a piece of rubble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #13 June 20, 2006 QuoteSo you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? I don't know about John but I'll say there are.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #14 June 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? That's what I'm trying to find out from akarunway. He seems to think that picking up a $5 snow globe as a momento from a pile of rubble deserves the same punishment as intentionally stealing tens of thousands of dollars of critically needed emergency supplies, like generators. And if that's the case, then stealing a pen from work should fall into the same category too. I suspect he is silent on this question, because he's taken ink pens home from work before himself, and he knows it ruins his argument and his outrage.Yes maybe many, many moons ago I may have committed petty theft. Then when I grew up and had my own business and learned morals and values and people that I TRUSTED stole from me, (karma I guess) I don't tolorate lies or theft anymore. From anyone. I think we are supposed to hold the govt. to as high or HIGHER standards then the rest of the populace are we not?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #15 June 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? That's what I'm trying to find out from akarunway. He seems to think that picking up a $5 snow globe as a momento from a pile of rubble deserves the same punishment as intentionally stealing tens of thousands of dollars of critically needed emergency supplies, like generators. And if that's the case, then stealing a pen from work should fall into the same category too. So I guess that there are different degrees in dishonesty as well? Interesting concept. I think I have to agree with you there. So I suppose you'll agree that being dishonest about something of little to no consequence, say.....a consensual sexual relationship between two adults would not merit more scrutiny/punishment than say.......dishonesty that resulted in the loss of thousands of lives and billions in taxpayer dollars......right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #16 June 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo you're saying there are "degrees" of bad/illegal behavior? That's what I'm trying to find out from akarunway. He seems to think that picking up a $5 snow globe as a momento from a pile of rubble deserves the same punishment as intentionally stealing tens of thousands of dollars of critically needed emergency supplies, like generators. And if that's the case, then stealing a pen from work should fall into the same category too. So I guess that there are different degrees in dishonesty as well? Interesting concept. I think I have to agree with you there. So I suppose you'll agree that being dishonest about something of little to no consequence, say.....a consensual sexual relationship between two adults would not merit more scrutiny/punishment than say.......dishonesty that resulted in the loss of thousands of lives and billions in taxpayer dollars......right?After reading that I think I'm gonna run down to TJ and get a blowjob. As I said before"If you'd steal a nickel you'd steal a dollar"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 June 21, 2006 QuoteYes maybe many, many moons ago I may have committed petty theft. So, if you had done that as a government employee, should you have been taken out and shot (like your thread title says)? QuoteI think we are supposed to hold the govt. to as high or HIGHER standards then the rest of the populace are we not? Equal standards, I say. Everyone should be treated the same for crimes committed. Neither easier nor harder. Regardless of race, creed, religion or government employee status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites