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QuoteGet in tune with the UN and the NATO ...
screw NATO. I wish we were not a part of it. They're corupt. Yep, I guess we should have stayed out of Germany after we saved France and England's butt from Germany's agression..
Of course, if so, Germany would be communist by now.
steveOrino
Quoteamerican people are far less safe now after all the iraq bullshit. there is some serious hatred toward your country!
Yeah, they all loved us before then. We were all warm and fuzzy. Gimme a break!
steveOrino
QuoteQuoteQuoteThe american people are safer.
You thought you were safe before 9/11. I'm not sure you are any safer now. After all you (we) have pissed off one or two people as a result of the action you've (we've) taken. It's possible that you don't care who you have upset but I doubt it has made you any safer.
I knew we werent safe before 9/11. The military had been downsized and pretty much ignored for 10 years. (thanks clinton) Everyone was getting complacent and security was lax.. We've killed many many many of the people that are "on a mission from god" to kill us. And we will continue to do so.
We as a country are more vigilant and there are less people that are organizing to kill us... Mostly because they are dead. So we are safer.. Sorry princess.
Firstly I'm not your princess.
Secondly you haven't got figures to back up your claim but my guess is by the action we've taken we've alienated more people than before. That doesn't mean they all want to kill us however. But remember it only takes one person to kill - unless you get rid of them all the threat will always remain and the more you try to kill them off the more likely they are to attack you. So I don't think you are any safer, sorry cock.
QuoteFirstly I'm not your princess.
Could have fooled me.
steveOrino
QuoteThe funny thing is that people are raised not to worry about what others think of you and then later on you are supposed to care only about what others think....see the contradiction?
I don't agree. I was never told not to care about what others thought of my actions or my words. In fact quite the opposite.
QuoteYou are a perfect example of someone who is dragging the reputation of the US down. You're a disgrace to your country.
And you're a great example of a European who criticiizes everything the US does, but you love our help whether it be money or military when you need it.
steveOrino
QuoteQuoteYou are a perfect example of someone who is dragging the reputation of the US down. You're a disgrace to your country.
And you're a great example of a European who criticiizes everything the US does, but you love our help whether it be money or military when you need it.
I don't criticise everything the US does and I don't love your money or military help either. Don't know where you got that from.
I responded to this thread to inform you how some people view America(ns)....thought some of you might want some help with that. I don't hate America.
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It ain't personal - it is about perception. US has the perception of being a bully that is hated by all the countries who love our money and military help.
steveOrino
steveOrino
QuoteIt ain't personal - it is about perception. US has the perception of being a bully that is hated by all the countries who love our money and military help.
Why do you think the US is perceived as a bully and hated?
Honestly? I really don't think about it much. I assume that by your posts.
It may make me look like an ugly American, but unless I read an USA bashing post in SC, I never give it a second thought.
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Probably about as much as the average frenchman worries what I think of him.
steveOrino
It may make me look like an ugly American, but unless I read an USA bashing post in SC, I never give it a second thought.
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QuoteDo you care?
Probably about as much as the average frenchman worries what I think of him.
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QuoteOf course, if so, Germany would be communist by now.
*snickers* That so-called "argument" doesn't work since even Russia itself isn't communist anymore. And guess what, they've gone through Glasnost without the US. Plus, you're taking quite a big mouthful claiming that the other allies would not have managed to bring the 3rd Reich down without the US. You can't be certain that sooner or later Germany (or a united Europe) would have remidied itself of Hitler on its own since the resistance was gaining power.
So, where's the proof to that pretension of yours? Are you really convinced that the world can't do anything without the US? I seriously doubt it that Germans would still wave the Hakenkreuz if you would not have interferred.
Quotescrew NATO. I wish we were not a part of it. They're corupt.
You know, there's people saying the very same about the US - not just because the money for Bush's election campaigns came from the oil industry lobby. Funny that the US is marching into Iraq just a few months after Bush got "elected" into the White House, huh? To boldly go where daddy has gone before. I wonder why it was relatively quiet in the Middle East during Clinton's term in office.QuoteThe funny thing is that people are raised not to worry about what others think of you and then later on you are supposed to care only about what others think....see the contradiction?
Why should Iran care what you think about them then? Why should they give a fuck? Why the hell should the rest of the world give a damn about what you think about it or how you want it to be? Because your opinion is better than theirs? Says who? Why should a government care what its people think of it?
This argument works both ways.
People... the Middle East is mentally still back in the middle ages. What needs to be done is to lift them into the 21st century - not beat them with a stick. Their hatred for the western world reaches back to the christian crusades. By marching in there again you're just making this even worse.
But as long as you're saying "fuck ppl from other countries" you won't be seeing the necessity to understand people fom other countries. And as long that's not the case, they will keep finding volunteers to fly Boings into your skyscapers.»Somewhere between the lies and truths borderlines get shady.
Somewhere between the yesses and nos you can find the maybe.«
QuoteQuoteOf course, if so, Germany would be communist by now.
*snickers* That so-called "argument" doesn't work since even Russia itself isn't communist anymore.
Yeah, right. Are you THAT clueless to WHY Russia isn't communist? The downfall of the USSR was the result of them bankrupting their economy trying to keep up with Reagan (God bless him!)
steveOrino
Some of what is said about USA is right. We’ve over stepped our bounds in areas we should have stayed out of. But let’s face it – we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t. If we did nothing in Somalia we would have been criticized as we are today for inactivity in parts of the world. If we step up to the plate (sorry for the American idiom – look it up) we get criticized for doing that.
I’ve seen it throughout my 51 years. Those who don’t measure up to others criticize rather than do anything constructive. For example: It is much easier for people to criticize and demonize Bill Gates than to invent the next operating system. It’s called envy.
steveOrino
I’ve seen it throughout my 51 years. Those who don’t measure up to others criticize rather than do anything constructive. For example: It is much easier for people to criticize and demonize Bill Gates than to invent the next operating system. It’s called envy.
steveOrino
QuoteI wonder why it was relatively quiet in the Middle East during Clinton's term in office.
Tell that to the Sailors in the USS Cole
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