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Andy9o8 3
QuoteOh, but according to the leftists on this board, blah, blah, blah
What an incredibly moronic statement to make.
And now it's out there, for all the world to see.
Richards 0
Since the Phelps Family are so keen of the right of free speech & assembly, I'm sure they wouldn't object to a 24/7 demonstration outside their homes. Perhaps celebrating the music of Marilyn Manson, Eminem, Alice Cooper, etc... played continuously & loud as an expression of the demonstrators' beliefs.
I'd be willing to bet that in the circumstances, such a demonstration would be accepted (even supported) by neighbours, and that the police would attend to ensure that there was no breach of the law.
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It would be nice if it actually turned out that way, but I doubt it would because that would make too much sense. I do not understand why, but it always seems that "rights" apply only to jackasses, yet when you try to beat a jackass at his/her own game, the very system which stands by allowes them to act like that will suddenly start intervening when you do it in return. I am only basing this heuristically on personall experience, and I am sure there is some section of some legal code that someone can quote to me to prove me wrong.
Richards

I'd be willing to bet that in the circumstances, such a demonstration would be accepted (even supported) by neighbours, and that the police would attend to ensure that there was no breach of the law.

It would be nice if it actually turned out that way, but I doubt it would because that would make too much sense. I do not understand why, but it always seems that "rights" apply only to jackasses, yet when you try to beat a jackass at his/her own game, the very system which stands by allowes them to act like that will suddenly start intervening when you do it in return. I am only basing this heuristically on personall experience, and I am sure there is some section of some legal code that someone can quote to me to prove me wrong.
Richards
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.
billvon 3,132
>And they defend the non-existent rights of illegal immigrants as well.
Is it your belief that you (or anyone) could kill an illegal immigrant and face no legal punishment? Might want to rethink your statement.
>Their hypocritical stance on gun control . . .
They have a pretty defined stance on gun control; they believe that the second amendment refers to the right for militias, not private citizens, to own guns. You may disagree with it (I do) but your disagreement with someone does not make them a hypocrite.
Is it your belief that you (or anyone) could kill an illegal immigrant and face no legal punishment? Might want to rethink your statement.
>Their hypocritical stance on gun control . . .
They have a pretty defined stance on gun control; they believe that the second amendment refers to the right for militias, not private citizens, to own guns. You may disagree with it (I do) but your disagreement with someone does not make them a hypocrite.
Andy9o8 3
QuoteI do not understand why, but it always seems that "rights" apply only to jackasses
Yeah, I realize it often does seem that way. It's probably because the jackasses, being, well, jackasses, get a disproportionate amount of publicity. But of course, those same rights protect our ability to post any social/political commentary that we want on these boards.
This is in no way a defense of jackasses in general, or the Phelps in particular, but...
the First Amendment protects jackasses in large part because popular speech needs little protection; it is speech which is very unpopular that needs protection in order for true freedom of speech to exist. So, in the US, a large part of the function of the First Amendment is to protect speech which is very unpopular.
Part of the price of having freedoms is that sometimes the way others exercise them can be downright nauseating.
Trent 0
QuoteHmm, and here I think the other side is trash. You know, the moralists like Falwell, the GOP fat-cats like Limbaugh..... must differ.
Here's where your logic is again flawed... who would ever think that the opposite of the ACLU is Falwell and Limbaugh. I'd think the opposite would be level-headed lawyers with no agenda.... either that, or people who aren't insane with their own egos to the point they think they have a duty to always end up on the wrong side of a fight.
Oh, hello again!
If it was the gov't trying to stop the nutjobs from demonstrating at the funerals, then yes the ACLU might step in. This is a civil case between two private parties. The ACLU could care less about such matters.
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