Lucky... 0 #1 May 25, 2006 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060524/ap_on_go_pr_wh/intelligence_chief_companies_1&printer=1;_ylt=Av1ITZkrhaql_zfjJgb05sYGw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 May 25, 2006 QuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 May 25, 2006 Quoteexclusion from SEC filings for secret projects under government contract Fixed that for ya. The only "news" about this is Bush authorizing Negroponte to do the waiver. Please note that there's not any information on any companies receiving an exemption, either. Of course, that *would* tend to derail your bash a bit, wouldn't it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #5 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Well, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #6 May 25, 2006 QuoteWell, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Oy ve.... Look in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Would you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. We are not living in peace time people. There are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #7 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Uh, government contracts and the asociated monies given. It;s not as if we expect them to reveal formulas to manufacture nuclear weapons, just their profits. Why shield them from disclosing their gifts from Bush? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #8 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteexclusion from SEC filings for secret projects under government contract Fixed that for ya. The only "news" about this is Bush authorizing Negroponte to do the waiver. Please note that there's not any information on any companies receiving an exemption, either. Of course, that *would* tend to derail your bash a bit, wouldn't it? That makes more sense, but at least disclose the monies given and not the details of the project - I think that's teh issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #9 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Well, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Now Libby is borrowing the ole, "I don;t recall." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #10 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteWell, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Oy ve.... Look in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Would you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. We are not living in peace time people. There are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall. QuoteLook in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Hmmmm, I believe all phone companies are private corps..... oh yea, corpoartions, US governemnt; same thing via Fascism.... yiu are right. BTW, do you have a phonebook that details which number called which and what time? Weak, er, nonexistant copmaprison. QuoteWould you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. How about just the dollars? Chinese? Bush has ensured that they have our money, so they care not what we do. QuoteWe are not living in peace time people. Oh God, spare me. We ARE living in peacetime, it's just that the Reoubs won't let it happen - it interrupts their corporate plans. The world is very peaceful, with the exception of us. QuoteThere are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall. There are also some very descent countries that wouldn't come to our aide of we were attacked due to our presence in world hate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #11 May 25, 2006 Learn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #12 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. Learn a little about constructing your own arguments, and then get back with us. Until then, keep duckin-n-runnin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #13 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. One very effective way is to send your CEO off to work in the Executive branch of the Federal Government. That seems to cut through that pesky red tape formality called "bidding". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #14 May 25, 2006 Really? By all means, give us some examples of this. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #15 May 25, 2006 QuoteReally? By all means, give us some examples of this. I'll go by the emoticon and assume that you're not serious. Hard to tell sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #16 May 25, 2006 He may not be, but I am. Show your proof.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites avenfoto 0 #17 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. open your fucking eyes, or get away from u.s. ... it fails to astonish me, how many people just think everything is just peachy-keen roun' hur... nah,..bush never did anything wrong..youre right.. waaay right.----> jackass power indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #18 May 25, 2006 Oh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #19 May 25, 2006 Quotebush never did anything wrong Your words, not mine. I disagree and think he's done a lot wrong. Quote..youre right.. I am correct, obviously. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps you can lead Lucky down the path of enlightenment with regards to that issue. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #20 May 25, 2006 QuoteOh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Go ahead and clarify then. You obviously know that I'm referring to the company who's been busted and fined numerous time for overbilling as well as admitting to defrauding the taxpayer back when Cheney was running it. Let me guess, "no one else is qualified to handle such a contract so we had to go with Halliburton". Further edit: I've gotta run to go help set up for a boogie this weekend but I can't leave without asking folks to justify hiring a company who, in addition to what I posted above, has admitted to bribery in Nigeria, bribery in Kuwait, sold oil production materials to IRAQ back in the 90's, used their Cayman loophole to broker a deal with IRAN two years ago (Iran pulled out of that one for security reasons), and has been caught price gouging on just about every job they've done for us. Gotta go! Blue skies or great gps spots this weekend!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #21 May 25, 2006 QuoteOh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Instead of a pompous reply, reveal your supposed knowledge of gov contracts and how it applies here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #22 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuotebush never did anything wrong Your words, not mine. I disagree and think he's done a lot wrong. Quote..youre right.. I am correct, obviously. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps you can lead Lucky down the path of enlightenment with regards to that issue. Get over yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #23 May 25, 2006 Please point me to the section of the FAR or the DFARS or any of the service supplements that details the role the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President plays in source selection. With regards to any sole source contract given to Halliburton, please show explain what criteria they did not meet on which contract and what problem you have with the J&A filed and approved by the appropriate competition advocate. FAR section 6.302 should prove most useful as a starting point if you're unfamiliar with it (which you are, else you wouln't be stating such things)clicky Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #24 May 25, 2006 QuotePlease point me to the section of the FAR or the DFARS or any of the service supplements that details the role the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President plays in source selection. With regards to any sole source contract given to Halliburton, please show explain what criteria they did not meet on which contract and what problem you have with the J&A filed and approved by the appropriate competition advocate. FAR section 6.302 should prove most useful as a starting point if you're unfamiliar with it (which you are, else you wouln't be stating such things)clicky Can't do it now. Gotta run. See my edit above. But just as a parting guess, I'm willing to bet that somewhere in the contract there's a clause about negating contracts due to some sort of fraud or abuse. If not then our government is more fucked than I think it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #25 May 25, 2006 QuoteReally? By all means, give us some examples of this. Geez Anvil...haven't you heard of Halliburton?! God!! This is a clear case of the VP lining his pockets from stock he doesn't own but will be given once he leaves office. 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idrankwhat 0 #5 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Well, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 May 25, 2006 QuoteWell, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Oy ve.... Look in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Would you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. We are not living in peace time people. There are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #7 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Uh, government contracts and the asociated monies given. It;s not as if we expect them to reveal formulas to manufacture nuclear weapons, just their profits. Why shield them from disclosing their gifts from Bush? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteexclusion from SEC filings for secret projects under government contract Fixed that for ya. The only "news" about this is Bush authorizing Negroponte to do the waiver. Please note that there's not any information on any companies receiving an exemption, either. Of course, that *would* tend to derail your bash a bit, wouldn't it? That makes more sense, but at least disclose the monies given and not the details of the project - I think that's teh issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #9 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteBush signed an official memorandum to Negroponte on May 5 giving him the authority to excuse companies with government contracts for secret projects from having to disclose them in required periodic filing Please, by all means, enlighten us as to why you want such information disclosed to the public. Well, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Now Libby is borrowing the ole, "I don;t recall." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #10 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteWell, those of us who aren't really excited about handing over "freedom for security" would like to know if the phone companies are handing over our records. I don't know who scares me more, this administration or their apologists who blindly accept, no, actively defend whatever they dish out without question. Just as an aside, what was Negroponte's role in the Iran/Contra scandal again? Covering things up? Oy ve.... Look in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Would you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. We are not living in peace time people. There are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall. QuoteLook in the phone book at all the phone numbers...with names...some with addresses...that equals: PUBLIC RECORD Hmmmm, I believe all phone companies are private corps..... oh yea, corpoartions, US governemnt; same thing via Fascism.... yiu are right. BTW, do you have a phonebook that details which number called which and what time? Weak, er, nonexistant copmaprison. QuoteWould you want Skunk Works to publish that they're spending $xBillion on the next generation stealth fighter or bomber? Even if that means it exposes the concept to the Chinese or North Koreans? Chances are, you've not even invested in these companies. How about just the dollars? Chinese? Bush has ensured that they have our money, so they care not what we do. QuoteWe are not living in peace time people. Oh God, spare me. We ARE living in peacetime, it's just that the Reoubs won't let it happen - it interrupts their corporate plans. The world is very peaceful, with the exception of us. QuoteThere are some very nasty people out there that would love to see the US fall. There are also some very descent countries that wouldn't come to our aide of we were attacked due to our presence in world hate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #11 May 25, 2006 Learn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. Learn a little about constructing your own arguments, and then get back with us. Until then, keep duckin-n-runnin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #13 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. One very effective way is to send your CEO off to work in the Executive branch of the Federal Government. That seems to cut through that pesky red tape formality called "bidding". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 May 25, 2006 Really? By all means, give us some examples of this. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #15 May 25, 2006 QuoteReally? By all means, give us some examples of this. I'll go by the emoticon and assume that you're not serious. Hard to tell sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 May 25, 2006 He may not be, but I am. Show your proof.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avenfoto 0 #17 May 25, 2006 QuoteLearn a bit about government contracts and how they're awarded and get back to us. open your fucking eyes, or get away from u.s. ... it fails to astonish me, how many people just think everything is just peachy-keen roun' hur... nah,..bush never did anything wrong..youre right.. waaay right.----> jackass power indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #18 May 25, 2006 Oh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #19 May 25, 2006 Quotebush never did anything wrong Your words, not mine. I disagree and think he's done a lot wrong. Quote..youre right.. I am correct, obviously. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps you can lead Lucky down the path of enlightenment with regards to that issue. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #20 May 25, 2006 QuoteOh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Go ahead and clarify then. You obviously know that I'm referring to the company who's been busted and fined numerous time for overbilling as well as admitting to defrauding the taxpayer back when Cheney was running it. Let me guess, "no one else is qualified to handle such a contract so we had to go with Halliburton". Further edit: I've gotta run to go help set up for a boogie this weekend but I can't leave without asking folks to justify hiring a company who, in addition to what I posted above, has admitted to bribery in Nigeria, bribery in Kuwait, sold oil production materials to IRAQ back in the 90's, used their Cayman loophole to broker a deal with IRAN two years ago (Iran pulled out of that one for security reasons), and has been caught price gouging on just about every job they've done for us. Gotta go! Blue skies or great gps spots this weekend!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 May 25, 2006 QuoteOh, I'm serious. I've a bit of knowledge about federal contracts and acquisitions, you see. Please - let us know which contracts or acquisition gives you cause for concern with regards to the executive branch. Instead of a pompous reply, reveal your supposed knowledge of gov contracts and how it applies here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuotebush never did anything wrong Your words, not mine. I disagree and think he's done a lot wrong. Quote..youre right.. I am correct, obviously. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps you can lead Lucky down the path of enlightenment with regards to that issue. Get over yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #23 May 25, 2006 Please point me to the section of the FAR or the DFARS or any of the service supplements that details the role the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President plays in source selection. With regards to any sole source contract given to Halliburton, please show explain what criteria they did not meet on which contract and what problem you have with the J&A filed and approved by the appropriate competition advocate. FAR section 6.302 should prove most useful as a starting point if you're unfamiliar with it (which you are, else you wouln't be stating such things)clicky Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #24 May 25, 2006 QuotePlease point me to the section of the FAR or the DFARS or any of the service supplements that details the role the Office of the Vice President or the Office of the President plays in source selection. With regards to any sole source contract given to Halliburton, please show explain what criteria they did not meet on which contract and what problem you have with the J&A filed and approved by the appropriate competition advocate. FAR section 6.302 should prove most useful as a starting point if you're unfamiliar with it (which you are, else you wouln't be stating such things)clicky Can't do it now. Gotta run. See my edit above. But just as a parting guess, I'm willing to bet that somewhere in the contract there's a clause about negating contracts due to some sort of fraud or abuse. If not then our government is more fucked than I think it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #25 May 25, 2006 QuoteReally? By all means, give us some examples of this. Geez Anvil...haven't you heard of Halliburton?! God!! This is a clear case of the VP lining his pockets from stock he doesn't own but will be given once he leaves office. It's a clear conspiricy.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Gawain 0 #25 May 25, 2006 QuoteReally? By all means, give us some examples of this. Geez Anvil...haven't you heard of Halliburton?! God!! This is a clear case of the VP lining his pockets from stock he doesn't own but will be given once he leaves office. It's a clear conspiricy.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
