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Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.



I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????

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Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


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Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.

I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????



I have great concern my info will be used for some nefarious reason.

I am PISSED>:(

REALLY FUCKING PISSED

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Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


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Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.

I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????



I have great concern my info will be used for some nefarious reason.

I am PISSED>:(

REALLY FUCKING PISSED



If you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason to worry.
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John,

That ironicality is going to make for a lot of sad pandas around here.

.jim



If you think the possibility of someones SSN or medical info being exploited and fucking over someones life please tell me

Maybe if someone used your identity to secure a loan or go on a spending spree with credit obtained in your name you would think differently

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If you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason to worry.



Well then that settles it you aren't concerned, would you care to publish your SSN and Medical Records access on the internet for anyone to see?



Funny how attitudes change when it's your own ox being gored.:P
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>you aren't concerned, would you care to publish your SSN and
>Medical Records access on the internet for anyone to see?

Why would anyone fear that information (or their phone records, or transcripts of their phone conversations, or their email) being available if they have done nothing wrong?

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If you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason to worry.



Well then that settles it you aren't concerned, would you care to publish your SSN and Medical Records access on the internet for anyone to see?



Funny how attitudes change when it's your own ox being gored.:P



Except it's a stupid comparison that has no relevance.

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Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.



I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????



A sad example of the government not being able to securely handle data despite good intentions.

I wonder if this could happen with other data they hold like phone call records perhaps. It is better that they never have the information in the first place then they can never loose it.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-052206vets_wr,0,1156952.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.



I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????



A sad example of the government not being able to securely handle data despite good intentions.

I wonder if this could happen with other data they hold like phone call records perhaps. It is better that they never have the information in the first place then they can never loose it.



Wasn't that long ago they lost a bunch of nuclear weapons codes too.

And the fascists want the government to have MORE of our information. DISGUSTING.
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>you aren't concerned, would you care to publish your SSN and
>Medical Records access on the internet for anyone to see?

Why would anyone fear that information (or their phone records, or transcripts of their phone conversations, or their email) being available if they have done nothing wrong?



Oh! Whew!! They're just using it to check up on people!! In that case, no problem!


Geez, here I thought they were gonna do something bad with all that confidential personal data. It's not like they could set up a scam though. Creditors would see right throught that, 'cause they're smart.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-052206vets_wr,0,1156952.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Personal Data of 26.5 Million Veterans Compromised
From Associated Press
1:11 PM PDT, May 22, 2006


Personal data, including Social Security numbers of 26.5 million U.S. veterans, was stolen from a Veterans Affairs employee this month after he took the information home without authorization, the department said Monday.



I am thinking .. WHY is this information even allowed out of government buildings????



A sad example of the government not being able to securely handle data despite good intentions.

I wonder if this could happen with other data they hold like phone call records perhaps. It is better that they never have the information in the first place then they can never loose it.



Wasn't that long ago they lost a bunch of nuclear weapons codes too.

And the fascists want the government to have MORE of our information. DISGUSTING.



Agreed, and yet your other comparison was apples and poolballs.

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And the fascists want the government to have MORE of our information. DISGUSTING.



I'm just wondering about the comparison here to the phone registry database and other stuff...

In this case, we have info that THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY HAS being stolen because some idiot had it on his laptop. On the other side, you have the government looking at random numbers and trying to find a pattern.

How do you make oranges to oranges out of this?

I guess if you consider the government to be criminals, don't like social security or public funded VA care... you could see it as kinda oranges to oranges...
Oh, hello again!

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>In this case, we have info that THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY HAS
>being stolen because some idiot had it on his laptop.

Is it your position, then, that if the government is given access to even more information, it will not be misused/abused? The more information on us they have, the LESS it will be at risk?

I think you may trust big government a lot more than most people.

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I don't think this was an accident. The files had the name, DOB, SSN, dates of service; and probably at least a few other tidbits on over 26 million people.

#1 - Had to have been a few discs.

#2 - Had to have been more than could be easily handled by the average home computer. If not data size-wise, then from a bumbling around with discs perspective. Think of the hassle of loading all this into your basic home PC, and playing with and sorting the files. No way was this your average I'll-take-it-home-and-finish-it-up-for-tomorrow's-meeting type of venture.

#3 - House was just recently burglarized. What a convenient way to "lose" the discs.

#4 - So the person gets slapped on the hand, or even fired. So what; maybe they retire on what they sold the discs for.

A setup and a scam if you ask me.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Is it your position, then, that if the government is given access to even more information, it will not be misused/abused? The more information on us they have, the LESS it will be at risk?



That's not what I asked at all. I want clarification on how the analogies were honestly comparable. I went back to look at my post to find where I stated any position remotely close to what you may have interpreted... couldn't find anything.

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I think you may trust big government a lot more than most people.



You assume too much. See my next post.
Oh, hello again!

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Why do you believe that's all they're doing with them?



Several reasons:

1. The vast amount of data they would have would make it financially ridiculous to do much else with it.

2. What WOULD they do with the uber-secret information that phone number 867-5309 called 555-1414?

3. What reason do you have to beleive that they're doing something MORE with them?

4. I don't think the government as a whole is competent enough to be running some nefarious masterplan to spy on all of us just in case.
Oh, hello again!

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