Zipp0 1 #1 May 22, 2006 Study: Average IQ Lower for Conservatives May 22, 2006(AP) In a recent study, IQ tests indicated that, on average, conservative political thinkers trail their liberal counterparts by as many as 22 points. Researchers identified several factors for this disparity in their peer-reviewed paper, to be published in an upcoming issue of "CURRENT RESEARCH IN SOCIAL PSYCHOLOGY". Factors cited include higher educational achievements, and a feeling of greater social and civic responsibility among liberal thinkers. Conservative thinkers, on average, are cited as having less ambitious educational goals and achievements, attributed in part to a discrediting of science, in favor of religious views. Using data gathered over a 10 year period, as well as hypothetico-deductive procedures, empirical research, and extensive testing, the researchers have constructed what may be the most extensive and accurate picture to date of the relationship between political thought and intelligence. Contributors include professor Yen Lee Ho, Ph.D., Harvard University, Dr. William Rodgers, Institute of Psychology, London, and Dr. Karen Hoffner, Scholar-in-Residence, Boston University. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #2 May 22, 2006 > well as hypothetico-deductive procedures Ah, well, that clinches it! The only thing better than hypothetico-deductive procedures are intelligentico-extrapolative paradigms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 May 22, 2006 Well the libs have always acted like they know more than anybody else and now they can think they have proven it too "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 May 22, 2006 Yep. Carter almost certainly had a higher IQ than Reagan. But here's another study that was recently released that indicates that smart people, like liberals, choke under pressure to the point where dumber people, like conservatives, perform better. http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050209_under_pressure.html "A new study finds that individuals with high working-memory capacity, which normally allows them to excel, crack under pressure and do worse on simple exams than when allowed to work with no constraints. Those with less capacity score low, too, but they tend not to be affected by pressure." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 May 22, 2006 Quote> well as hypothetico-deductive procedures Ah, well, that clinches it! The only thing better than hypothetico-deductive procedures are intelligentico-extrapolative paradigms. Trying to figure out what this means is giving me a headache "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #6 May 22, 2006 Obviously the results are tainted!!! Just look at who's done the research, all those left loving professors!!!I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #7 May 22, 2006 Quote"A new study finds that individuals with high working-memory capacity, which normally allows them to excel, crack under pressure and do worse on simple exams than when allowed to work with no constraints. Those with less capacity score low, too, but they tend not to be affected by pressure." Gads, more incredibly obvious findings. So people of higher intelligence do worse on tests when they are under pressure than when they are not. And less intelligent people score low also, but are not as effected by the pressure. (I'm going to assume that the high capacity folks still scored better than the low capacity people, but that is not explicitly stated). They could have saved a lot of time and money and just asked me." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #8 May 22, 2006 >that indicates that smart people, like liberals, choke under pressure >to the point where dumber people, like conservatives, perform better. Actually, the study said that 'smart people' perform better than 'dumb people' without pressure, and that the two groups perform the same under pressure: "Under this higher, real world pressure situation, the HWM group’s score dropped to that of the LWM group, which was not affected by the increased pressure." (and as an aside, I know some very dumb liberals!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #9 May 22, 2006 While it os not true that most conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupids are conservative. - author unknownSkydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 May 22, 2006 Quote:"...data from the widely used General Social Survey (GSS) consistently show that Republicans are better educated than Democrats (on average, they have more than half a year more education and hold a higher final degree)."Source: TCS Daily Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #11 May 22, 2006 > Republicans are better educated than Democrats (on average, they >have more than half a year more education and hold a higher final degree. Maybe if republicans got out of their ivory towers and started living in the real world, they wouldn't be in danger of being voted out of power! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #12 May 22, 2006 Quote (on average, they have more than half a year more education and hold a higher final degree). Yale doesn't count when you have a C average and daddy got you in. Zipp0 -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #13 May 22, 2006 QuoteAverage IQ Lower for Conservatives oh bullshit. Everyone knows those IQ tests are culturally biased. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 May 22, 2006 QuoteMaybe if republicans got out of their ivory towers and started living in the real world, they wouldn't be in danger of being voted out of power! Not going to happen... they own the companies that make the voting machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #15 May 22, 2006 Republicans are better educated than Democrats. Why you hit so hard. My sister has only a High School education, and she pulls down $250,000.00 a year income with a Fortune Five hundred New York Based Company. And Receives a 30% bonus on her annual income if she meets budget which she has managed to do 3 years running, putting her income well over 300K and beating me times two. Education never replaced hard work or a vision worth pursueing. Don't get so wrapped up on education, although it's important, its not everything when it comes to success and happeniness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #16 May 22, 2006 QuoteYale doesn't count when you have a C average and daddy got you in How about an MBA from Harvard?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #17 May 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteYale doesn't count when you have a C average and daddy got you in How about an MBA from Harvard? That must explain the outstanding successes of his various business enterprises.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #18 May 23, 2006 QuoteThat must explain the outstanding successes of his various business enterprises Sounds like the typical entrepeneur. Wouldn't be the first failed businessman president. He actually made a fortune on these failed attempts though, so it would depend on what one would consider "success"._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #19 May 23, 2006 Education isn't everything, and life experience counts for a lot (especially in trade industries and the computer industry). However, it can be more difficult to get employers to take you seriously without a college degree, and many times you end up making less money than someone else who does the same job, but has the degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #20 May 23, 2006 QuoteQuote:"...data from the widely used General Social Survey (GSS) consistently show that Republicans are better educated than Democrats (on average, they have more than half a year more education and hold a higher final degree)."Source: TCS Daily why should that be surprising. privileged children are more likely to be able to afford college, and beside the money they will get from mom and dad also the guidance which party is better for their income tax etc. to some extend graduates from professional schools will also have the "I earned so why share it" attitude. However, once you start going up the academic ranks, (Masters, PhD, post-doctoral fellows, professors) the percentage of conservatives exponentially decreases to near extinction. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #21 May 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat must explain the outstanding successes of his various business enterprises Sounds like the typical entrepeneur. Wouldn't be the first failed businessman president. He actually made a fortune on these failed attempts though, so it would depend on what one would consider "success". Daddy's buddies bailing him out to the tune of millions is not success. Zipp0 -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #22 May 23, 2006 QuoteDaddy's buddies bailing him out to the tune of millions is not success Oil is not an anonymous business. Everyone knows everyone. Of course there is going to be connections and "buddies". The bailout proved to provide collateral and success in other future ventures that made him the millionaire he is today. You may claim his oiler days was a bust, but his buyout was a win-win situation that would make him rich later. He failed in Oil, but so far he had more successes than failures overall._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 May 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteDaddy's buddies bailing him out to the tune of millions is not success Oil is not an anonymous business. Everyone knows everyone. Of course there is going to be connections and "buddies". The bailout proved to provide collateral and success in other future ventures that made him the millionaire he is today. You may claim his oiler days was a bust, but his buyout was a win-win situation that would make him rich later. He failed in Oil, but so far he had more successes than failures overall. If a bunch of my father's friends gave me $millions, I too could be a multi-millionaire but I wouldn't claim it was due to my success as a businessman. Prescott Bush's Nazi money came in handy in enriching the Bushes too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #24 May 23, 2006 QuoteMy sister has only a High School education, and she pulls down $250,000.00 a year income with a Fortune Five hundred New York Based Company. And Receives a 30% bonus on her annual income if she meets budget which she has managed to do 3 years running, putting her income well over 300K and beating me times two. Education never replaced hard work or a vision worth pursueing. Don't get so wrapped up on education, although it's important, its not everything when it comes to success and happeniness. One word: Outlier. When studying populations, averages are what count (to keep it simple). On average, better education, especially of the kind that gets degreed, is directly positively correlated to higher income. So are some other things, such as hard work. Not to take away from her individual effort and accomplishments, but she is way off the norm with those stats. Good for her." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #25 May 23, 2006 You will never be able to explain business success and failure to the Academics as they sit in their warm cozy offices drawing a weekly paycheck. They will never grasp the concept that many of the most successful businesspeople of the past had many failures before they succeeded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites