Tink1717 2 #1 May 17, 2006 Watch this video and discuss. I will give my opinion later. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=116152867541418146&q=sam+harrisSkydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 May 17, 2006 QuoteWatch this video and discuss. No thank you. I want an idea of what the video is about before I invest the time in downloading it. Do some more work to introduce your subject, if you want people to participate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #3 May 17, 2006 Great video. God is a verb, not a noun. It's a great flow, where our thoughts and actions are very real. Action/reaction. Be happy, don't worry. Stay in your inner tube. Watch out for the big rocks. Keep the cooler close at all times. And, if needed, kill them before they kill you.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #4 May 17, 2006 Quote No thank you It's a neuroscientist talking about beliefs and the structure of our civilization. Very good discussion.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #5 May 17, 2006 I intentionally omitted the content. I did not want to bias the viewer prior to see the clip in order to preserve an uncontaminated opinion.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #6 May 17, 2006 QuoteI intentionally omitted the content. I did not want to bias the viewer prior to see the clip in order to preserve an uncontaminated opinion. So it's about religion, but you don't care to narrow it down any more. If you did, how would that bias my review of the material? Another poster has provided a brief idea of what it contains, and that certainly didn't introduce any bias into my mind. Are there a lot of people out there that don't like neuroscientists or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #7 May 17, 2006 QuoteSo it's about religion, but you don't care to narrow it down any more No. In the time you've taken to send and answer these posts, you could've watched the thing and posted something useful. Either join the discussion or not. If not, leave.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 May 17, 2006 QuoteEither join the discussion or not. If not, leave. You haven't joined it yourself yet. When are you going to add your views on the video you posted? Or are you going to leave? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 May 17, 2006 Listened to it. Although, according to him, I don't know if I'm rational or sane enough to converse with you concerning its content. For all his talk about intollerance, he sure appears to be very intollerant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #10 May 18, 2006 QuoteListened to it. Although, according to him, I don't know if I'm rational or sane enough to converse with you concerning its content. For all his talk about intollerance, he sure appears to be very intollerant. And so he should be.... Paj you have to open your eyes soon, and not waste your spark of existance blinded by your unfounded, unprovable beliefs.----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #11 May 18, 2006 > and not waste your spark of existance blinded by your unfounded, unprovable beliefs. Now I know its not worth the time to watch, however I'm sure there are a very few on this thread that will provide thought provoking analysis unlike the above statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #12 May 18, 2006 Quote> and not waste your spark of existance blinded by your unfounded, unprovable beliefs. Now I know its not worth the time to watch, however I'm sure there are a very few on this thread that will provide thought provoking analysis unlike the above statement. I just coudn't be bothered repeating myself It is well worth watching, unless of course your one of the close minded, blinded by faith, your all going to hell for not believing type of person..----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #13 May 18, 2006 Quote Now I know its not worth the time to watch. How??----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #14 May 18, 2006 OK, here's my take on it: Hammer>>Nail>>Head. Religion, in all its froms is both evil and wrong. Have you watched it yet? Why not?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #15 May 18, 2006 So, because it offends your devotion to bronze age, middle eastern desert mythology, it's intolerent? Why should we tolerate devotion to superstition?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #16 May 18, 2006 As opposed to the thought provoking commentary you just provided.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #17 May 18, 2006 Yeah, when I saw it my reaction was: Hammer>>Nail>>Head.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #18 May 18, 2006 QuoteListened to it. Although, according to him, I don't know if I'm rational or sane enough to converse with you concerning its content. For all his talk about intollerance, he sure appears to be very intollerant. Consider the statement: "a persons religious beliefs should be respected". Why? If someone believed that Israel should be wiped off the map, I wouldn't be expected to respect or tollerate that. If someone believed that space aliens were reading their mind by brain rays from venus, I wouldn't be expected to respect that. What is so special about religion that we must respect it no matter how absurd it is? If someone thinks you'd have to be nuts to buy into particular belief, why can't they call it as they see it? Which reminds me of a quote: "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." -H. L. Mencken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #19 May 18, 2006 QuoteListened to it. Although, according to him, I don't know if I'm rational or sane enough to converse with you concerning its content. For all his talk about intollerance, he sure appears to be very intollerant. Once again, religion is nothing more than mind control. If your god is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then god and the "devil" are one in the same! HELL is only what YOU make it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #20 May 18, 2006 QuoteIf your god is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then god and the "devil" are one in the same! HELL is only what YOU make it That is nonsensical. Added: That's like saying: - I am all powerful, all knowing, and ever present. - I built a treehouse in the front yard. - Therefore, I am the treehouse that I created. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #21 May 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteIf your god is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then god and the "devil" are one in the same! HELL is only what YOU make it That is nonsensical. Added: That's like saying: - I am all powerful, all knowing, and ever present. - I built a treehouse in the front yard. - Therefore, I am the treehouse that I created. send me your e-mail and i'll send you WHO IS THIS-a critical study of the christos-messiah tradition. read it and you will know that believing in jesus as the 'messiah' or any other messiah, is the only thing non-sesnical in this conversationwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #22 May 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteListened to it. Although, according to him, I don't know if I'm rational or sane enough to converse with you concerning its content. For all his talk about intollerance, he sure appears to be very intollerant. to believe everyone around you will BURN IN HELL, because they don't believe in your particular version of the 'god' program is the ultimate expression on INTOLERANCE AND MENTAL ABUSE on the planet. Consider the statement: "a persons religious beliefs should be respected". Why? If someone believed that Israel should be wiped off the map, I wouldn't be expected to respect or tollerate that. If someone believed that space aliens were reading their mind by brain rays from venus, I wouldn't be expected to respect that. What is so special about religion that we must respect it no matter how absurd it is? If someone thinks you'd have to be nuts to buy into particular belief, why can't they call it as they see it? Which reminds me of a quote: "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." -H. L. Mencken christianity is the origin af FASCISM, denying this truth is proof of ignorance of the origin of all religionswe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #23 May 18, 2006 bullshit. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 May 18, 2006 For someone who doesn't believe, you sure spend a lot of time and energy defending (convincing) yourself. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #25 May 18, 2006 QuoteFor someone who doesn't believe, you sure spend a lot of time and energy defending (convincing) yourself. - this isnot about convincing ordefending myself, it is about educating good people who are ignorant of where religion comes from and what it is really all about --controlling your very existance with the fear of eternal DAMNATION for not believing SEND ME YOUR E-MAIL AND I'LL SEND "WHO IS THIS-A CRITICAL STUDY OF THE CHRISTOS-MESSIAH TRADITION"we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
