"Vatican: Da Vinci book shows mass ignorance" The very definition of irony?

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PARIS, France (Reuters) -- The popularity of The Da Vinci Code is a shocking indication of both mass ignorance and the "voluptuous pleasure" the media take in promoting works with no basis in truth, the Vatican's culture minister says.

Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, on Monday told Europe 1 radio he had no objection to people seeing the film if they understand it is fiction, but many would watch this "nonsense" and think that it was true.

The film of the best-selling novel, which says Jesus had a child with Mary Magdelene and the Roman Catholic Church hushed this up, debuts at the Cannes Film Festival on Wednesday.

Poupard is the Vatican's highest authority on cultural issues after the Pope.

"This is a shocking and worrying cultural phenomenon that reflects, on the one hand, the ignorance of millions of people and, on the other, the voluptuous pleasure the media take in promoting products that have nothing to do with the truth," the French-born cardinal, 75, told the Paris radio station.

He noted that the mass media showed no interest in an extensive Dictionary of Religions he edited with contributions from many leading experts in the field.

"If a product that mixes up claims made as fact, fiction and so on, and comes out with elucubrations that have no relation to history, the whole world's media promote it," he said.

Elucubrations are laboriously written scholarly works.

"If it is clear this has nothing to do with truth and it amuses you to go see it, why not?" he said when asked if moviegoers should boycott the film starring Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou.

In the past several weeks Vatican cardinals have urged everything from a full-blown boycott of the film by Catholics to legal action against both the novel and the film.

Poupard did not back those stands but expressed concern about the effects it could have on the ordinary Catholics.

"What I'm concerned about is that decent people who do not have the proper religious education will take this nonsense for the real thing," said the cardinal, who has headed the Pontifical Council for Culture since 1988.

Asked if he would go see the film, Poupard said: "I don't plan to, because life is short and I have a lot of things to do. I have so many friends who have described this nonsense to me that I don't have time for that."



Kettle: Hey guys!
Pot: SHUT UP YOU BLACK BASTARD!!!

cavete terrae.

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

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Totally with ya on this one - i thought this was pretty funny!

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

It's embedded in the culture, and the ocean isn't always blue. It's brown some places, green in others, etc.

Hell, if people try and change it, I'm going to use it MORE just because I hate the trend towards changing everything to be non-offensive. People need to have a thicker skin, methinks.

cavete terrae.

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

On a wood stove both the pot and the kettle get black from the smoke.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pot+calling+the+kettle+black

"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.***

The pot/kettle saying came from at least a century ago when pots and kettles were made of iron and it had nothing to do with racism.

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

It's embedded in the culture, and the ocean isn't always blue. It's brown some places, green in others, etc.

Hell, if people try and change it, I'm going to use it MORE just because I hate the trend towards changing everything to be non-offensive. People need to have a thicker skin, methinks.

I'm tired of people not caring about the feelings of other people, just for historical reasons or "because it's embedded in our culture."

Slavery was embedded in our culture, yet we felt a need to stop that. Why? Why not just way we've been doing this for years; you need to learn to deal with it, or go back to your own country. We changed it becaus it was bad, bad for the human condition, bad for society. That's what this is about. It's not about backing down to whiny little punks, it's about not discriminating, not judging, it's about bettering humanity.

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I'm tired of people not caring about the feelings of other people, just for historical reasons or "because it's embedded in our culture."

Slavery was embedded in our culture, yet we felt a need to stop that. Why? Why not just way we've been doing this for years; you need to learn to deal with it, or go back to your own country. We changed it becaus it was bad, bad for the human condition, bad for society. That's what this is about. It's not about backing down to whiny little punks, it's about not discriminating, not judging, it's about bettering humanity.

Oh gawd, please take your preachy-ass self back to Speakers Corner!!!!!

Walt

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I'm tired of people not caring about the feelings of other people, just for historical reasons or "because it's embedded in our culture."

Slavery was embedded in our culture, yet we felt a need to stop that. Why? Why not just way we've been doing this for years; you need to learn to deal with it, or go back to your own country. We changed it becaus it was bad, bad for the human condition, bad for society. That's what this is about. It's not about backing down to whiny little punks, it's about not discriminating, not judging, it's about bettering humanity.

It's not that I'm not caring about the feelings of humans because it's embedded in the culture. I'm not caring about the feelings of humans because if we all sit around worrying incessantly about the political correctness of everythign we say or do, nothing gets done. ANYTHING you say can offend someone, but here's the thing: they're just words. Why does "fuck" offend people? It's a one syllable word that has no physical effect on anyone. It doesn't put a hex on your family. It doesn't make your children get SuperAIDS, it doesn't make your car turn into a cat. Just a word.

cavete terrae.

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Probably belongs in Speakers Corner, but I must admit this is an absolute classic!!!

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

While you may be determined to make this a race thing, the rest of the rational world see's it differently. It's simply 2 objects sharing the same color - hence the hypocrisy of the statement. It has nothing to do with 'color' at all.

Look for boogymen and you'll find 'em.

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Blues,
Ian

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It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

On a wood stove both the pot and the kettle get black from the smoke.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pot+calling+the+kettle+black

So this is what you say. But I beg to differ . Where is the evidence. Were you here when they decided to coin this trm? i think not. I think it is highly convenient that on wood stoves, both the pot and the kettle turn black. I think whoever made this said that's what it came from so he could be condescending while having an alibi so as to seem innocent.

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I'm tired of people not caring about the feelings of other people, just for historical reasons or "because it's embedded in our culture."

Slavery was embedded in our culture, yet we felt a need to stop that. Why? Why not just way we've been doing this for years; you need to learn to deal with it, or go back to your own country. We changed it becaus it was bad, bad for the human condition, bad for society. That's what this is about. It's not about backing down to whiny little punks, it's about not discriminating, not judging, it's about bettering humanity.

It's not that I'm not caring about the feelings of humans because it's embedded in the culture. I'm not caring about the feelings of humans because if we all sit around worrying incessantly about the political correctness of everythign we say or do, nothing gets done. ANYTHING you say can offend someone, but here's the thing: they're just words. Why does "fuck" offend people? It's a one syllable word that has no physical effect on anyone. It doesn't put a hex on your family. It doesn't make your children get SuperAIDS, it doesn't make your car turn into a cat. Just a word.

Have you ever seen South Park? Do you know why they're called curse words? They're called curse words because when incanted wnough times they invoke demons.

I know everybody thinks South Park is just some cartoon, but much of South Park is based on little-known facts. Both Stone and Parker have tons of knowledge and go through much research to make each episode, and it is a fat that the reason the f-word and the s-word are curse words is that back in the old days, they wre used by witches, in addition to other rituals, to invoke demon spirits. Luckily, these rituals are forgotten thse days, but the words themselves are still dangerous.

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Why does the pot call the kettle black? I think this is a term stemming from racist days when it was bad to be black. I think this phrase is ignorant, racist, and derogatory, and should be updated to fit modern times. Why don't be change it, the sky calling the ocean blue? That is not derogatory to anyone, yet says the same thing.

On a wood stove both the pot and the kettle get black from the smoke.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pot+calling+the+kettle+black

So this is what you say. But I beg to differ . Where is the evidence. Were you here when they decided to coin this trm? i think not. I think it is highly convenient that on wood stoves, both the pot and the kettle turn black. I think whoever made this said that's what it came from so he could be condescending while having an alibi so as to seem innocent.

Well you weren't there either when the term was coined so your opinion hold no more weigth than mine.
You're welcome to your opinion.

"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

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Have you ever seen South Park? Do you know why they're called curse words? They're called curse words because when incanted wnough times they invoke demons.

I know everybody thinks South Park is just some cartoon, but much of South Park is based on little-known facts. Both Stone and Parker have tons of knowledge and go through much research to make each episode, and it is a fat that the reason the f-word and the s-word are curse words is that back in the old days, they wre used by witches, in addition to other rituals, to invoke demon spirits. Luckily, these rituals are forgotten thse days, but the words themselves are still dangerous.

South Park is one of the most intelligent shows on TV, when you get down to it.

"damn you" is a curse. "Fuck you" is a swear word, or a swear phrase I guess. Most of these refer to bodily functions.

You have to believe in demons and curses to believe that the words are dangerous. I myself am a skeptic, an athiest, and pretty much an asshole, so I tend to think anyone who believes in god, demons, spirits, etc is a whackjob.

Meanwhile, I will continue to use "curse" words and "swear" words a lot.

Check out the episode of Penn & Teller's "Bullshit" on Profanity, for a great look into the issue.

Shit fuck piss cunt damn whore slut asshole douchebag cock pussy.

cavete terrae.

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Talk about "The very definition of irony"

See what happens when a potentially perfectly good Speaker's Corner topic gets started over with the amateurs?

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You have to believe in demons and curses to believe that the words are dangerous. I myself am a skeptic, an athiest, and pretty much an asshole, so I tend to think anyone who believes in god, demons, spirits, etc is a whackjob.

I will pray for you.

It's sad to notice the whole world is going this way, becoming godless heathens and all. It is only a matter of time before Judgment Day and we are all sent into the fiery depths of hell.

I will pray for you.

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I will pray for you.

It's sad to notice the whole world is going this way, becoming godless heathens and all. It is only a matter of time before Judgment Day and we are all sent into the fiery depths of hell.

I will pray for you.

By all means pray for me. If you're right, it means I've led my life the way that makes me happy, -and- I get a free pass because I had people praying for me.

cavete terrae.

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Keep praying for all us sinners. Christianity has be expecting the end of the world any minute now for the last 2 thousand years. Keep waiting. I for one am not going to hold my breath.

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You're taking the piss - right?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Coming next week - the National Association of Science Teachers condemns the Matrix trilogy for not being 100% accurate with respect to physics.

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Well, according to Fundamentalists, the Flintstones managed to get prehistory correct.

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oh.....you so crazy.

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