Hayden Confirmation

[crwtom 0]

General Michael Hayden has been nominated new CIA director
by GWB and is facing congress confirmation. This nomination
has created a fair amount of discussion. The NSA he headed since
1999 has made the headlines twice recently with wiretapping and
phone data banks. Many think a military man should not head a
civilian organization. Others go so far to speculate that the admin
wants to get rid of a civilian CIA (i.e., eradicate the agency they
conveniently blame for the WMD fiasko) and Hayden is the
executioner.


How do you think Hayden's confirmation will go?


Cheers, T

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[rushmc 23]

Anybody care to take a guess at how many military people have led the CIA in say, the last 30 years?

Anybody think the recyled NSA story and the timing of that (re)release was an accident?

Fun stuff huh?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[crwtom 0]

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Anybody care to take a guess at how many military people have led the CIA in say, the last 30 years?

why do you want to guess what's easy to look up

It started with a succession of militaries - which is perhaps not a surprise since the agency is a spin-off from the OSS.

After Dulles, the first civilian, got the job in 1953 there were two more occurences of militaries in `65-`66 and `77-`81 among 13 civilian directors in all other years.

[pajarito 0]

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In any case the question is not whether Hayden should be confirmed but whether he will be confirmed.

He will be confirmed.
The military argument against him is stupid.
He's not the first nor will he be the last.
Nothing new here by a long shot.

[rushmc 23]

I know looking up the first question is easy. I just wonder why it is being raised as an issue now.

I am not touchy about this at all.

Being a bit of a political junky I watch this stuff with interest.

And after watch for years I don't believe in coincidence any more

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[warpedskydiver 0]

I think he should be confirmed and is well qualified, I also think he will not be confirmed.

Being a military guy on active duty means he will not withdraw due to some skeleton in the closet, or insults to his family, etc., he simply won't give a shit.

I predict now that Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, and Reid will once again show what vicious, hate filled, partisan fucks they are.

[rehmwa 2]

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Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, and Reid will once again show what viscous,....

so are you saying they are slimy? or just thick?

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[warpedskydiver 0]

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Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, and Reid will once again show what viscous,....

so are you saying they are slimy? or just thick?

YES!

[billvon 3,116]

>I predict now that Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, and Reid will
>once again show what vicious, hate filled, partisan fucks they are.

You forgot to label Hastert, Hoekstra, and Chambliss as vicious, hate filled, partisan fucks!


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TIME: Top House Republican may oppose CIA nominee

RAW STORY
Published: Monday May 8, 2006

House Speaker Dennis Hastert signaled he may oppose the White House's selection of Gen Michael Hayden to run the CIA, according to a story posted Monday at TIME.com.

"The Speaker believes they should not have a military person leading the CIA, a civilian agency," Ron Bonjean, Hastert's communications director, told TIME.
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[warpedskydiver 0]

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>I predict now that Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Pelosi, and Reid will
>once again show what vicious, hate filled, partisan fucks they are.

You forgot to label Hastert, Hoekstra, and Chambliss as vicious, hate filled, partisan fucks!


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TIME: Top House Republican may oppose CIA nominee

RAW STORY
Published: Monday May 8, 2006

House Speaker Dennis Hastert signaled he may oppose the White House's selection of Gen Michael Hayden to run the CIA, according to a story posted Monday at TIME.com.

"The Speaker believes they should not have a military person leading the CIA, a civilian agency," Ron Bonjean, Hastert's communications director, told TIME.
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I was not referring to the fact they will oppose his nomination, only the manner in which it will be done.

Actually Denny Hastert is a good guy and my congressmen...I am glad about that.

[billvon 3,116]

>only the manner in which it will be done.

Oh, I think a democrat will as easily (and with as much justification) call the GOPers "lying hypocritical fucks" and claim the democrats are "standing up to the culture of corruption."

But rhetoric aside, this guy is opposed by members of both parties.