steveorino 7 #1 May 12, 2006 Its bad enough they have to dishonor my father's good last name with their fundy wacko antics, but if the Kansas Phelps group protests the funeral of a Sapulpa soldier killed in Iraq I may not be able to restrain myself. All deaths are tragic, but this one is hard for me. As his pastor, I perfomed his marriage ceremony, I baptized him, and dedicated his infant daughter. If I see these guys protesting Brian's funeral I may lose it. A punch in the face certainly isn't Christ like or legal either, but if someone would pay my bail, I believe I can get forgiveness from the Almighty. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #2 May 12, 2006 I'll cheap in!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #3 May 12, 2006 QuoteIts bad enough they have to dishonor my father's good last name with their fundy wacko antics, but if the Kansas Phelps group protests the funeral of a Sapulpa soldier killed in Iraq I may not be able to restrain myself. All deaths are tragic, but this one is hard for me. As his pastor, I perfomed his marriage ceremony, I baptized him, and dedicated his infant daughter. If I see these guys protesting Brian's funeral I may lose it. A punch in the face certainly isn't Christ like or legal either, but if someone would pay my bail, I believe I can get forgiveness from the Almighty. How much? You don't think you could get released on your own recog? I think the criminal case would be the least of your worries if you handed out an ass whipping (no matter how well deserved). I think you should *accidentally* start a small fire near them and let the local FD put it and them out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #4 May 12, 2006 First, I'm sorry for your loss. I would be more than happy to help post bail. I've tried to image myself encountering these fucking wastes of life, and how I would/will react. I dont' think I have ever had so much hate towards anyone other than those responsible for 9/11 and the Phelps Family. Be sure to ask Fred Sr. how he killed the love of Freddie Jr. life and the girls mother. They also have been know to beat their wives and children so be sure to bring that up. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #5 May 12, 2006 I don't know how much it would cost. I have never been arrested. Boy don't you know that would make national news. "Rev." Phelps punching out "Rev." Phelps (no relation -- thank God) at a funeral service. BTW - NO ONE calls me Reverend, but I'm sure the news would think it catchy. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #6 May 12, 2006 >A punch in the face certainly isn't Christ like or legal either, but if > someone would pay my bail, I believe I can get forgiveness from > the Almighty. Likely. But it would also get them front page coverage for weeks, which is what they want. Consider carefully if you really want to help them accomplish their goal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 May 12, 2006 Fortunately I think there is already a biker group that shields families from these idiots. Can't remember the name off the top of my head, but they travel the country and stand with American Flags between the protesters and the families. Usually showing up in such numbers that the families can't even see the protesters.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #8 May 12, 2006 Patriot Guard. I'm a member steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #9 May 12, 2006 Quote>A punch in the face certainly isn't Christ like or legal either, but if > someone would pay my bail, I believe I can get forgiveness from > the Almighty. Likely. But it would also get them front page coverage for weeks, which is what they want. Consider carefully if you really want to help them accomplish their goal. Oh Bill, always the voice of reason! But it would feel soooo good! steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #10 May 12, 2006 Um, although assault and battery committed on the worthless scum known as the phelps family (they aren't good enough to rate a proper noun in my opinion) would be a soul satisfying and noble endeavor, yo should know that they make the bulk of their income from lawsuits stemming from people who beat them up. So, I would say resist, at all costs, further funding their bullshit.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #11 May 12, 2006 >Oh Paul, always the voice of reason! But it would feel soooo good! That it would, Jake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #12 May 12, 2006 All war sucks, but this one especially. It reminds me way too much of Viet Nam. (Please let's not debate that here) But after going over to Brian's parents house the night they found out and see them staring at a TV with the sound turned off, it was too much. "I don't know what to do." was his cry. I have one son in SF and a son-in-law who has been over there twice and going back in the fall. The thought of someone protesting these guys funeral is something that may cause me to do an irrational act. I guess there are better ways to spend my energy. Maybe I can find a few old team members who have "connections". steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #13 May 12, 2006 They advertise this under "upcoming events" on their SICK website. If you want an ulcer and followup with hypertension just read their FAQ about American soldiers. These people are sick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #14 May 12, 2006 QuoteI guess there are better ways to spend my energy. We need to find a legal way to stop them forever. They like to sue people. Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. You mentioned something about not being able to be rational. Having to go to the funeral is emotionally draining enough without having their shit in your face. I've actually lost sleep over thinking of the poor families that have had to bury a family member or friend and having to deal with these fuckers too. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 May 12, 2006 Quote Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. For exercising their right to assemble and protest? You don't have a right not to be offended. And as for the reverend, I thought part of the duties involves resisting temptation and setting an example for others. Getting into a fight hardly seems appropriate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #16 May 12, 2006 I will stand good for the first $100.00 for bail yea they want the media coverage..so instead of a punch how about a tragic traffic accident..say where someone drives over the curb in a semi truck..no just kidding but I will pay the first $100 for bail ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #17 May 12, 2006 QuoteQuote Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. For exercising their right to assemble and protest? You don't have a right not to be offended. And as for the reverend, I thought part of the duties involves resisting temptation and setting an example for others. Getting into a fight hardly seems appropriate. AHHHHH, another Phelps sympathizer. Just what the world needs. IF you and your buddy the Phelps think America sucks so bad then leave. Going to Indiana are we? jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #18 May 12, 2006 The one thing that I find amazing is that they choose to fuck with people who are trained, and able, to totally destroy them. I mean when you pick a fight with warriors, that entails some pretty high stakes. It just amazes me they are still alive.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 May 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteI guess there are better ways to spend my energy. We need to find a legal way to stop them forever. They like to sue people. Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. You mentioned something about not being able to be rational. Having to go to the funeral is emotionally draining enough without having their shit in your face. I've actually lost sleep over thinking of the poor families that have had to bury a family member or friend and having to deal with these fuckers too. Judy Please don't take this personally but your call for lawsuits is one of the reasons this country is in the mess it's in. Why is the first reaction to sue for some imagined emotional distress? I'm sorry but a knee-jerk reaction for a lawsuit is not the solution to these people, nor is a punch in the face. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,548 #20 May 12, 2006 a. I'll chip in b. Maybe lots of publicity with even more posters, that are colorful, to get more publicity than the assholes. The Patriot Guard are a good start. But WBC is all about publicity. So anything to either rob them of publicity, or to get more for the good guys, is a win. The "no publicity" is better. Maybe have another event going on in town that's more interesting. "Miss Nude Sapulpa" anyone? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #21 May 12, 2006 QuoteQuote Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. For exercising their right to assemble and protest? You don't have a right not to be offended. And as for the reverend, I thought part of the duties involves resisting temptation and setting an example for others. Getting into a fight hardly seems appropriate. Sadly, I agree with you on all points in my intellect and in some ways my spirit, but my gut wants to punch him. Dude, I'm human as the next guy. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 May 12, 2006 Quotea. I'll chip in So now you are supporting violence? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #23 May 12, 2006 QuoteWhy is the first reaction to sue for some imagined emotional distress? Have you researched these people. I have. And its not imagined. I know why I lost sleep. I hope you don't ever have to face these people at a funeral for a family or friend. jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #24 May 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI guess there are better ways to spend my energy. We need to find a legal way to stop them forever. They like to sue people. Couldn't we or someone start a class action lawsuit against them for the for the emotional pain they are causing to everyone, not just those at the funeral. You mentioned something about not being able to be rational. Having to go to the funeral is emotionally draining enough without having their shit in your face. I've actually lost sleep over thinking of the poor families that have had to bury a family member or friend and having to deal with these fuckers too. Judy Please don't take this personally but your call for lawsuits is one of the reasons this country is in the mess it's in. Why is the first reaction to sue for some imagined emotional distress? I'm sorry but a knee-jerk reaction for a lawsuit is not the solution to these people, nor is a punch in the face. - Ever hear of fighting fire with fire? Do you have any suggestions? I mean, pointing out the flaws in others' feelings and reactions and ideas is great and all, but doesn't really bring much to the table does it? I'm not a proponent of violence, but some people just need a good old-fashioned ass whooping, and these highly-motivated litigious folks are damn good candidates. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #25 May 12, 2006 If needed, I'll help post bail... If these people faced bodily harm everywhere they go they'd rethink their program. Not that I'm advocating violence or anything...... Steve"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
