Gravitymaster 0 #376 May 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteSorry you are worn down. All my posts were on topic, which you and others couldn't refute so you attempted to morph it into something we weren't discussing. On topic, CNN and USA Today appear to have some credibility problems with their story and it would serve you well to keep this in mind next time you read something in those publications. The story stinks. - What was off topic? You posted a law that the Bushies are supposed to abide by and you stated that it was pretty obvious that they were adhering to that law. I countered with that time honored tool of the liberal devil, the question. And by asking the simple questions like "did they actually fully brief the committees that were listed in the law" the answer turned out to be a resounding NO, as evidenced by Bush's promise yesterday to finally comply. Sorry if you feel that sinking your legal compliance assertion is off topic. If CNN and USA today is the topic then maybe we should change the name of this thread. The topic had to do with recent disclosures that the govt. had requested phone records from Verizon, AT&T and Bellsouth. In case you forgot, here is the first post http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2222119#2222119 You and Billvon tried to hijack the thread and make it about a wiretapping story from last December and somehow you became confused about the topic. But, never mind, I'm bored and I find it difficult to carry on an off-topic discussion. If you want to discuss that story, start another thread. Don't be surprised if it comes out this was a "sting" set up by the NSA/CIA/FBI to find out the source of a leak. It has all the ingredients of one. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #377 May 18, 2006 Quotenow remember they are encouraging the use of a persons phone rcords to somehow destroy their lives and or careers. You are right. It is much better when politcians ruin civil servants careers by "leaking" recently, secretly declassified information.... Doesn't it suck when people use the same tactics against you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #378 May 18, 2006 QuoteQuotenow remember they are encouraging the use of a persons phone rcords to somehow destroy their lives and or careers. You are right. It is much better when politcians ruin civil servants careers by "leaking" recently, secretly declassified information.... Doesn't it suck when people use the same tactics against you? Did you hear me applaud that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #379 May 18, 2006 QuoteDid you hear me applaud that? Nope, but they are just proposing to fight fire with fire. You would think the religeous right in power would appreciate the don't do upon others....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #380 May 18, 2006 Quotethis is the kind of shit he was known forusing the power of office for personal vendettas Yup that would never happen in this case by Scooter Karl and Dick now would it..smearing someone for political advantage... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #381 May 18, 2006 Quote now remember they are encouraging the use of a persons phone rcords to somehow destroy their lives and or careers. An invasion of privacy not by a government trying to protect us, but by individuals for political reason. "Joe Wilson's wife" comes to mind. Quote Anyone here ever hear of a crossdresser by the name of J. Edgar Hoover? this is the kind of shit he was known forusing the power of office for personal vendettas Sounds like Dick Cheney without the wardrobe. By the way, before you write your letter to the editor notice that it's dot com, not dot org. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #382 May 18, 2006 Quote The topic had to do with recent disclosures that the govt. had requested phone records from Verizon, AT&T and Bellsouth. In case you forgot, here is the first post http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2222119#2222119 You and Billvon tried to hijack the thread and make it about a wiretapping story from last December and somehow you became confused about the topic. But, never mind, I'm bored and I find it difficult to carry on an off-topic discussion. If you want to discuss that story, start another thread. - So illegal NSA spying/record collecting, which you vigorously and very specifically defended in THIS thread is off topic (and boring) and the discussion is limited to the newspaper articles themselves? Wow. That's pretty narrow. It fooled a lot of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #383 May 18, 2006 >Nope, not nuff said. 40% and rising. Update on Rasmussen: May 11 40% May 14 39% May 17 38% May 18 36% Can he make it into the 20's? It will take a lot of determination and hard work, but so far he has shown he is up to the task. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #384 May 18, 2006 Zogby has him at 42% ABC at 33% Newsweek at 35% Can't find Harris. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #385 May 19, 2006 QuoteZogby has him at 42% ABC at 33% Newsweek at 35% Can't find Harris. - may 12 - harris - 29% http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114735765551950179-w7V4BRLul0aQ57xTm63c_3bKREY_20070512.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #386 May 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteZogby has him at 42% ABC at 33% Newsweek at 35% Can't find Harris. - may 12 - harris - 29% http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114735765551950179-w7V4BRLul0aQ57xTm63c_3bKREY_20070512.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top Thanks. Bill and I have a little wager on the next Harris poll. I checked their site and it appears it is only done every 30 days so we'll have to wait until June 15 iirc. I should have picked a pollster who does one every week or so and I'd been drinking my beer by now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites