PriorityPull 0 #1 May 10, 2017 Question regarding Swift reserves. I had never noticed that the TSO labels on these reserves note that the TSO is only valid when used with specific containers until one specifically said EOS in large print. Looking back through my pictures, the others have similar but usually less restrictive limitations in the fine print. Thoughts on using these in containers not listed on the label? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #2 May 10, 2017 Side question, is the swift still in production? I though Paraflite dropped everything but military applications."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
accumack 14 #3 May 10, 2017 The swift plus was TSO'd in the EOS container system. Other manufacturers were free to determine compatability in their container systems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PriorityPull 0 #4 May 10, 2017 Going off memory here a bit but don't the container manuals usually specify acceptable size not manufacturer of the reserve? How would the container manufacturer go about superseding the TSO of the parachute manufacturer? Where would you find this documented? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #5 May 10, 2017 Yes it was TSO'd as a system with their EOS container. Riggers get to determine compatibility of components. From day one the majority of Swift reserves were in other containers. My first one was in a Northern Lite in 1982 shortly have the Swift came out. Without having production numbers I would guess that well over 90% of Swifts never saw an EOS container. I never saw an EOS container in person but packed dozens of individual swift canopies. And they haven't been made for over 20 years. Maybe a few less than that but close. I decline to pack original version 5 cell swifts because they are just too old in design even if they might be airworthy. Of course that's a personal decision and other riggers make other decisions. Even 7 cell swifts are getting long in the tooth. The line was expanded with Cirrus and Orion reserves. I don't believe these were TSO'd in EOS containers but I'd have to check the manual downstairs and I'm too lazy at the moment. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
accumack 14 #6 May 10, 2017 The 5 cell swift reserve was TSO'd in the swift harness and container system. The 7 cell swift plus was TSO'd in the EOS system. It was up to the rigger or harness container manufacturer to determine compatibility with other systems as we did not test them in other manufacturer's systems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 May 10, 2017 accumack The 5 cell swift reserve was TSO'd in the swift harness and container system. The 7 cell swift plus was TSO'd in the EOS system. It was up to the rigger or harness container manufacturer to determine compatibility with other systems as we did not test them in other manufacturer's systems. Oops, forgot the swift system. Thanks for the correction. I knew it didn't sound right. I never saw a Swift system either.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PriorityPull 0 #8 May 11, 2017 I guess what I'm wondering is where the "rigger gets to determine" comes from when the TSO (label) has more restrictive language like "valid when used with..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
accumack 14 #9 May 11, 2017 PriorityPullI guess what I'm wondering is where the "rigger gets to determine" comes from when the TSO (label) has more restrictive language like "valid when used with..." found here page 14 par 13 https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_105-2E.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
