rushmc 23 #1 May 6, 2006 Oww, this has got to hurt! And I found it on NewsMax reprinted from the BBC and Reuters. I wonder why I have not seen this on ABC, CBS, NPR, CNN ect ect ect Gotta love it The Fox News Channel is the most trusted news source in America, according to a new poll released by the BBC and Reuters that surveyed 10,000 news consumers around the world. Asked which news source they most trusted, 11 percent of Americans named Fox News - more than any other news source in the U.S. Fox News led the broadcast networks by substantial margins, with ABC coming in at 4 percent, NBC - 4 percent and CBS - 3 percent. In less crowded news markets, percentages were higher. 32 percent of Britons, for instance, named the the BBC, while 59 percent of Egyptians named Al Jazeera. The most trusted news networks on a global basis were the BBC, and CNN, the Reuters/BBC poll found. "National TV is still the most trusted news source by a wide margin, although the Internet is gaining ground among the young," said Doug Miller, president of London-based research firm GlobeScan, which conducted the polling. More than 1,000 people were surveyed in March and April in each of the United Kingdom, United States, Brazil, Egypt, Germany, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia and South Korea."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 May 6, 2006 All news shows anymore, are biased 'entertainment' shows. It's all about glitz and ratings and FOX won. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #3 May 6, 2006 QuoteGotta love it Yep. FOX is a fairly decent way to absorb what's happening around the world. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteGotta love it Yep. FOX is a fairly decent way to absorb what's happening around the world. It is my favorite news source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #5 May 6, 2006 QuoteIt is my favorite news source When is Amazon going to show up and reiterate her "government approved news source" fantasies? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #6 May 6, 2006 she must be out buying Kool Aid...blue of course! Hi Amazon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #7 May 6, 2006 Quote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #8 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #9 May 6, 2006 QuoteIt must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Can you say "splitting the vote"? *sigh*... I feel like a kindergarten teacher sometimes. And I just know someone's going to take my spitting on this silly poll and sillier interpretation as confirmation that I hold some ideology or other. Go ahead if you must, but only at risk of being stupidly wrong. That risk doesn't seem to bother a lot of people here. But to those who would prefer to be correct (few though you may be,) my only ideology is that lousy reasoning is revolting. There's a lot of it going around... First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #10 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... this is a really a trivial calculation. Here a basic illustration: if you have one aberrant choice that caters to a similarly aberrant 10% portion of a population, and you have 90 mainstream choices that cater to the other 90% mainstream portions of a population, then the abberant will be expected to get 10% of the votes and any mainstream choice will get in average 1% of the votes. Nevertheless it is 10:90 for abberant vs mainstream votes ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites penniless 0 #11 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Really? The BBC and CNN look pretty good if you quit being so parochial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #12 May 6, 2006 In terms of numbers and the question, 11 percent ain't bad. This was not where 11 percent answered, "Do you believe that Fox News is trustworthy?" It's not like only 11 percent find it trustworthy, but 11 percent find it the MOST trustworthy. Considering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. Like it or not, they are ahead of everyone else, which says something about either the organization or the public. Probably both. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #13 May 6, 2006 Quote this is a really a trivial calculation. Here a basic illustration: if you have one aberrant choice that caters to a similarly aberrant 10% portion of a population, and you have 90 mainstream choices that cater to the other 90% mainstream portions of a population, then the abberant will be expected to get 10% of the votes and any mainstream choice will get in average 1% of the votes. Nevertheless it is 10:90 for abberant vs mainstream votes Ah, yes.. more from the 'party of tolerance' (see bolding)...and right on time, too... Here's a bit from the commentary about the poll you may have missed: ***Asked to name the news source they most trusted, without any prompting, 59 percent of Egyptians said Al Jazeera, 52 percent of Brazilians said Rede Globo, 32 percent of Britons said the BBC, 22 percent of Germans said ARD and 11 percent of Americans said Fox News, each leading their respective nations. So looks like out of all the Americans that they spoke with, 11% trusted Fox more than the "mainstream" (i.e., Liberal) media. So, with your incredible powers of calculation, what sort of % did the "mainstream" media get?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #14 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Really? The BBC and CNN look pretty good if you quit being so parochial. Was there a particular part of "most trusted source in U.S." that you didn't understand? *hint: look at the thread title, it's right there*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #15 May 6, 2006 QuoteConsidering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. No, not really. Read my comment above about "splitting the vote" and crwtom's more detailed explanation. Here's a simpler illustration: In a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #16 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteConsidering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. No, not really. Read my comment above about "splitting the vote" and crwtom's more detailed explanation. Here's a simpler illustration: In a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. Show me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting"....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #17 May 6, 2006 QuoteShow me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting".... No, I don't feel like bantering with you. I was responding to lawrocket who isn't just here to shoot people down. I suspect he already sees how my point applies and you never will. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #18 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteShow me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting".... No, I don't feel like bantering with you. I was responding to lawrocket who isn't just here to shoot people down. I suspect he already sees how my point applies and you never will. The fact is that your point doesn't apply - the respondents weren't given a list to choose from, they were asked what news network they trusted most.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites meltdown 0 #19 May 6, 2006 This whole ridiculous debate aside, I love this line: "my only ideology is that lousy reasoning is revolting" Very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #20 May 6, 2006 QuoteThe fact is that your point doesn't apply There we go! I knew I made the right decision. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #21 May 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe fact is that your point doesn't apply There we go! I knew I made the right decision. Ok... let's play your game... QuoteAsked to name the news source they most trusted, without any prompting AND QuoteIn a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. Please show how your answer fits the quote above it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #22 May 7, 2006 QuoteOww, this has got to hurt! Yes it does hurt. Sieg Heil to all the "new patriots".----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 May 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteOww, this has got to hurt! Yes it does hurt. Quote Sucks when the "maintstream" media shoots themselves in the foot, don't it? QuoteSieg Heil to all the "new patriots". 1. That went out of style, oh... 60 or so years ago. 2. Amazon might get pissed if you keep swiping her material.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #24 May 7, 2006 I just decided to have some fun with this!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #25 May 7, 2006 As opposed to say...... 4%?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." 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skydyvr 0 #5 May 6, 2006 QuoteIt is my favorite news source When is Amazon going to show up and reiterate her "government approved news source" fantasies? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 May 6, 2006 she must be out buying Kool Aid...blue of course! Hi Amazon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #7 May 6, 2006 Quote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #9 May 6, 2006 QuoteIt must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Can you say "splitting the vote"? *sigh*... I feel like a kindergarten teacher sometimes. And I just know someone's going to take my spitting on this silly poll and sillier interpretation as confirmation that I hold some ideology or other. Go ahead if you must, but only at risk of being stupidly wrong. That risk doesn't seem to bother a lot of people here. But to those who would prefer to be correct (few though you may be,) my only ideology is that lousy reasoning is revolting. There's a lot of it going around... First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #10 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... this is a really a trivial calculation. Here a basic illustration: if you have one aberrant choice that caters to a similarly aberrant 10% portion of a population, and you have 90 mainstream choices that cater to the other 90% mainstream portions of a population, then the abberant will be expected to get 10% of the votes and any mainstream choice will get in average 1% of the votes. Nevertheless it is 10:90 for abberant vs mainstream votes ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #11 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Really? The BBC and CNN look pretty good if you quit being so parochial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 May 6, 2006 In terms of numbers and the question, 11 percent ain't bad. This was not where 11 percent answered, "Do you believe that Fox News is trustworthy?" It's not like only 11 percent find it trustworthy, but 11 percent find it the MOST trustworthy. Considering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. Like it or not, they are ahead of everyone else, which says something about either the organization or the public. Probably both. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 May 6, 2006 Quote this is a really a trivial calculation. Here a basic illustration: if you have one aberrant choice that caters to a similarly aberrant 10% portion of a population, and you have 90 mainstream choices that cater to the other 90% mainstream portions of a population, then the abberant will be expected to get 10% of the votes and any mainstream choice will get in average 1% of the votes. Nevertheless it is 10:90 for abberant vs mainstream votes Ah, yes.. more from the 'party of tolerance' (see bolding)...and right on time, too... Here's a bit from the commentary about the poll you may have missed: ***Asked to name the news source they most trusted, without any prompting, 59 percent of Egyptians said Al Jazeera, 52 percent of Brazilians said Rede Globo, 32 percent of Britons said the BBC, 22 percent of Germans said ARD and 11 percent of Americans said Fox News, each leading their respective nations. So looks like out of all the Americans that they spoke with, 11% trusted Fox more than the "mainstream" (i.e., Liberal) media. So, with your incredible powers of calculation, what sort of % did the "mainstream" media get?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote11 percent Only those with a very weak grasp of statistics could consider 11% a meaningful "win". It must really chap the Liberal's asses that all the other "mainstream" media couldn't even pull THAT much... Really? The BBC and CNN look pretty good if you quit being so parochial. Was there a particular part of "most trusted source in U.S." that you didn't understand? *hint: look at the thread title, it's right there*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #15 May 6, 2006 QuoteConsidering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. No, not really. Read my comment above about "splitting the vote" and crwtom's more detailed explanation. Here's a simpler illustration: In a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteConsidering that it almost tripled the others, it says SOMETHING. No, not really. Read my comment above about "splitting the vote" and crwtom's more detailed explanation. Here's a simpler illustration: In a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. Show me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting"....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #17 May 6, 2006 QuoteShow me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting".... No, I don't feel like bantering with you. I was responding to lawrocket who isn't just here to shoot people down. I suspect he already sees how my point applies and you never will. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 May 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteShow me in the article where it says they provided choices.... It didn't - as a matter of fact, the article says "without prompting".... No, I don't feel like bantering with you. I was responding to lawrocket who isn't just here to shoot people down. I suspect he already sees how my point applies and you never will. The fact is that your point doesn't apply - the respondents weren't given a list to choose from, they were asked what news network they trusted most.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meltdown 0 #19 May 6, 2006 This whole ridiculous debate aside, I love this line: "my only ideology is that lousy reasoning is revolting" Very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #20 May 6, 2006 QuoteThe fact is that your point doesn't apply There we go! I knew I made the right decision. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 May 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe fact is that your point doesn't apply There we go! I knew I made the right decision. Ok... let's play your game... QuoteAsked to name the news source they most trusted, without any prompting AND QuoteIn a population where 60% prefer chocolate and 40% prefer strawberry, run a poll with the following three choices: A) Milk chocolate B) Dark chocolate C) Strawberry You'll find that strawberry comes out the winner. Woo hoo for the strawberries. Please show how your answer fits the quote above it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #22 May 7, 2006 QuoteOww, this has got to hurt! Yes it does hurt. Sieg Heil to all the "new patriots".----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 May 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteOww, this has got to hurt! Yes it does hurt. Quote Sucks when the "maintstream" media shoots themselves in the foot, don't it? QuoteSieg Heil to all the "new patriots". 1. That went out of style, oh... 60 or so years ago. 2. Amazon might get pissed if you keep swiping her material.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #24 May 7, 2006 I just decided to have some fun with this!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #25 May 7, 2006 As opposed to say...... 4%?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
rushmc 23 #24 May 7, 2006 I just decided to have some fun with this!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 May 7, 2006 As opposed to say...... 4%?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
