Andy_Copland 0 #1 April 26, 2006 Im not sure if the guys a hero or an arse Either way he bullets where damn close to the women and kid http://www.break.com/index/robberyontape.html1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 April 26, 2006 It appears that he had a bit of training Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hambone 0 #3 April 26, 2006 Where did that gun come from? the guards hip or under the counter?Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #4 April 26, 2006 It seems he used the women as cover to shield the view of him him getting his gun ready. I can only assume the robber was on the right out of the picture with some sort of weapon drawn. Guy pretends to go to cash draw, uses her as cover and bang, theres your result1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 April 26, 2006 Too bad he didn't give the robber two to the chest and one in the face Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #6 April 26, 2006 And traumatise the family? Shoulda wounded him, took him outside THEN two in the chest and one in the head1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akjmpplt 0 #7 April 26, 2006 He drew the pistol out of a holster on his right hip. From what I saw in the tape the shooting may not have been justified. When the guy started shooting the badguy was running to the door. Someone going away usually isn't a big threat of "serious physical injury or death". edit* Went back and looked at the vid some more. As the guard comes up with his pistol both he and the clerk flinch and duck, perhaps the badguy took a shot at them as he headed to the door.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #8 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteToo bad he didn't give the robber two to the chest and one in the face Nah. Just one right in the gonads. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #9 April 26, 2006 WTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 April 26, 2006 QuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. Quote If the robber had a weapon the threat was already given Richards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #11 April 26, 2006 Just think if he was so fixated on killing that guy that he didnt notice the women panic with her baby and run right infront of him 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 April 26, 2006 but that didn't occur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #13 April 26, 2006 But it could have, if he hasnt got the ability to kill a guy from 5 feet with a semi automatic weapon he shouldnt be carrying one in my opinion1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #14 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. Quote If the robber had a weapon the threat was already given*** But if the guy only wanted the money was it worth risking the lives of the other people in the store if he could have just cooperated with the guy. They have insurance. That woman and her baby were very close to the line of fire. Was the cash in the till worth risking the baby's life over a misplaced sense of machismo? Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #15 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteJust think if he was so fixated on killing that guy that he didnt notice the women panic with her baby and run right infront of him That can happen very easily. In the heat of the moment a person can develop blinders to everything but the other shooter. The video is really quite frightenning to watch. I actually support the right to bear arms but to borrow a phrase from Billvon "a gun cannot be a substitute for a brain". That guy acted recklessly. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #16 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteBut it could have, if he hasnt got the ability to kill a guy from 5 feet with a semi automatic weapon he shouldnt be carrying one in my opinion Without a great deal of training a person can easily miss targets at close range when under stress. I saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #17 April 26, 2006 QuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #18 April 26, 2006 Watching that video it appears that the person robing the cashier either fired a gun or threw something at the people behind the counter. If you watch the left side of the video you can see some dust/debris fly off the wall.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hambone 0 #19 April 26, 2006 Have i stummbled into the SC?Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #20 April 26, 2006 That guys a cock. Who was in danger at that point? Not like it was his belonging, he only works there. If someone ever tries to rob your work, just let them have what they want. Your better use as a witness when your alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #21 April 26, 2006 but you're talking about gun happy America everybody needs a gun, how can you stop yourself being killed in a cash robbery if you don't have a gun? co-operating with a robber is simply not on, you must have a gun and shoot the fucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #22 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Not my point. I'm just saying that if someone who has that amount of training can miss under stress, then it is easy for an untrained person to miss. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 April 26, 2006 Re: giving them what they want - being a good witness. That's all well and good, until they decide it's better to have no witnesses...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #24 April 26, 2006 QuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. successful robberies beget more robbery attempts. Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. Can't watch the vid at work, so I can't comment on how reckless this particular person may have been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #25 April 26, 2006 Quote Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. If you are willing to risk your own life to protect the bosses money (in a low paying job like those cashiers), that is your choice, but starting a shotout with a burglar, while bystanders who have no say in whether or not there is a shootout is irresponsible. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. 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Andy_Copland 0 #11 April 26, 2006 Just think if he was so fixated on killing that guy that he didnt notice the women panic with her baby and run right infront of him 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 April 26, 2006 but that didn't occur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #13 April 26, 2006 But it could have, if he hasnt got the ability to kill a guy from 5 feet with a semi automatic weapon he shouldnt be carrying one in my opinion1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #14 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. Quote If the robber had a weapon the threat was already given*** But if the guy only wanted the money was it worth risking the lives of the other people in the store if he could have just cooperated with the guy. They have insurance. That woman and her baby were very close to the line of fire. Was the cash in the till worth risking the baby's life over a misplaced sense of machismo? Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #15 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteJust think if he was so fixated on killing that guy that he didnt notice the women panic with her baby and run right infront of him That can happen very easily. In the heat of the moment a person can develop blinders to everything but the other shooter. The video is really quite frightenning to watch. I actually support the right to bear arms but to borrow a phrase from Billvon "a gun cannot be a substitute for a brain". That guy acted recklessly. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #16 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteBut it could have, if he hasnt got the ability to kill a guy from 5 feet with a semi automatic weapon he shouldnt be carrying one in my opinion Without a great deal of training a person can easily miss targets at close range when under stress. I saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #17 April 26, 2006 QuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #18 April 26, 2006 Watching that video it appears that the person robing the cashier either fired a gun or threw something at the people behind the counter. If you watch the left side of the video you can see some dust/debris fly off the wall.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hambone 0 #19 April 26, 2006 Have i stummbled into the SC?Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #20 April 26, 2006 That guys a cock. Who was in danger at that point? Not like it was his belonging, he only works there. If someone ever tries to rob your work, just let them have what they want. Your better use as a witness when your alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #21 April 26, 2006 but you're talking about gun happy America everybody needs a gun, how can you stop yourself being killed in a cash robbery if you don't have a gun? co-operating with a robber is simply not on, you must have a gun and shoot the fucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #22 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Not my point. I'm just saying that if someone who has that amount of training can miss under stress, then it is easy for an untrained person to miss. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 April 26, 2006 Re: giving them what they want - being a good witness. That's all well and good, until they decide it's better to have no witnesses...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #24 April 26, 2006 QuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. successful robberies beget more robbery attempts. Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. Can't watch the vid at work, so I can't comment on how reckless this particular person may have been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #25 April 26, 2006 Quote Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. If you are willing to risk your own life to protect the bosses money (in a low paying job like those cashiers), that is your choice, but starting a shotout with a burglar, while bystanders who have no say in whether or not there is a shootout is irresponsible. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Richards 0 #15 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteJust think if he was so fixated on killing that guy that he didnt notice the women panic with her baby and run right infront of him That can happen very easily. In the heat of the moment a person can develop blinders to everything but the other shooter. The video is really quite frightenning to watch. I actually support the right to bear arms but to borrow a phrase from Billvon "a gun cannot be a substitute for a brain". That guy acted recklessly. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #16 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteBut it could have, if he hasnt got the ability to kill a guy from 5 feet with a semi automatic weapon he shouldnt be carrying one in my opinion Without a great deal of training a person can easily miss targets at close range when under stress. I saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 April 26, 2006 QuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #18 April 26, 2006 Watching that video it appears that the person robing the cashier either fired a gun or threw something at the people behind the counter. If you watch the left side of the video you can see some dust/debris fly off the wall.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hambone 0 #19 April 26, 2006 Have i stummbled into the SC?Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #20 April 26, 2006 That guys a cock. Who was in danger at that point? Not like it was his belonging, he only works there. If someone ever tries to rob your work, just let them have what they want. Your better use as a witness when your alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #21 April 26, 2006 but you're talking about gun happy America everybody needs a gun, how can you stop yourself being killed in a cash robbery if you don't have a gun? co-operating with a robber is simply not on, you must have a gun and shoot the fucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #22 April 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI saw a video where a cop and a bad guy fired at eachother from about 5-10 feet and emptied their mags yet neither guy was hit. Gosh, we shouldn't let cops have guns! Not my point. I'm just saying that if someone who has that amount of training can miss under stress, then it is easy for an untrained person to miss. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 April 26, 2006 Re: giving them what they want - being a good witness. That's all well and good, until they decide it's better to have no witnesses...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #24 April 26, 2006 QuoteWTF was he thinking? In fairness I was not there but if this was just a standard robbery why not give the guy what he wants and keep him happy? Thats why you have insurance. It looks like he endangered several other people (including a baby) just to be a hero. If I was in the store I would have been more pissed at him than the robber. Unless the robber clearly stated an intent to kill the people anyway, that guy acted reclessly. successful robberies beget more robbery attempts. Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. Can't watch the vid at work, so I can't comment on how reckless this particular person may have been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #25 April 26, 2006 Quote Removing the other customers from the equation and you're discouraging a return if you fire, encouraing one if you give them money and watch them go. If you are willing to risk your own life to protect the bosses money (in a low paying job like those cashiers), that is your choice, but starting a shotout with a burglar, while bystanders who have no say in whether or not there is a shootout is irresponsible. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
