warpedskydiver 0 #1 April 25, 2006 Iran Warns It May Hide Nuclear Program By Associated Press 2 hours ago Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, who is also ... TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that Iran would halt all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if the Security Council imposes sanctions against it, and warned it might go further and hide its nuclear program if the West takes any other "harsh measures." The statements by Ali Larijani were Iran's strongest statement of defiance yet before a Friday deadline the Security Council has given the country to stop all uranium enrichment. They came a day after Iran's president boldly predicted the Security Council would not impose sanctions on Tehran and warned he was thinking about dropping out of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. "Military action against Iran will not end our program," Larijani said Tuesday, speaking at a conference on the energy program. "If you take harsh measures, we will hide this program. If you use the language of force, you should not expect us to act transparently."Quote Too bad we already know they have tried to hide their true Nuke WEAPON program Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #2 April 25, 2006 It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #3 April 25, 2006 QuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. And they still belive that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #4 April 25, 2006 Quote....saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. I don't remember saying no evidence! I do remember saying "understandable" and "little danger". Less danger than the Soviet Union & China. Less danger than North Korea. About on a par with India & Pakistan's nuclear weapons programs (which you may remember actually stabilised THAT region). Incidentally... Has the US recently offered India & Pakistan ASSISTANCE with their nuclear programs? I'll say it (yet) again. Nuclear weapons are by their very nature a DEFENSIVE weapon. You CANNOT win a war with Nukes if both sides have them. The best you can achieve with their possession is a draw with both sides losing. Nukes fulfil Clausewitz's definition of a total and therefore unwinable war. A war you can't win isn't worth fighting. Nukes render a country "unprofitable" to invade (enforce regime change / bring "democracy)! This is why Iran wants Nukes. Why does the US want to deny them? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #5 April 25, 2006 QuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. There is no evidence they are trying to produce weapons - only strong suspicion. There was lots of evidence presented making the case on Iraq, and it turned out to be totally and completely wrong. That mistake is costing us dearly now in our attempt to keep Iran from following in the footsteps of N. Korea. I sincerely hope we can stop this very real threat, but we may not be in a position to do so. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #6 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. There is no evidence they are trying to produce weapons - only strong suspicion. There was lots of evidence presented making the case on Iraq, and it turned out to be totally and completely wrong. That mistake is costing us dearly now in our attempt to keep Iran from following in the footsteps of N. Korea. I sincerely hope we can stop this very real threat, but we may not be in a position to do so. Z Dude quit drinking the coolaid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #7 April 25, 2006 Quote Dude quit drinking the coolaid I am not drinking the cool aid. I think we need to halt their nuclear work. That being said, there is no CONCRETE evidence that they are going to produce weapons. We had much more evidence on Iraq, and we ALL know how that turned out. By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? And when are we bringing Osama to justice exactly? Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #8 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Dude quit drinking the coolaid I am not drinking the cool aid. I think we need to halt their nuclear work. That being said, there is no CONCRETE evidence that they are going to produce weapons. We had much more evidence on Iraq, and we ALL know how that turned out. well they buried two nuke facilities and destroyed several before they could be checked By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Saudi Arabia as well. And when are we bringing Osama to justice exactly? as soon as he is shot and killed then bring the hide back for taxidermy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #9 April 25, 2006 Quote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #10 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #11 April 25, 2006 Quote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's. Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.Quote Satellite photos previous to the invasion that were shown on several TV stations repeatedly, and harped about by some of the same politicians who are against the war now, but were for it back when they voted to support it And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently Although I will defend our president when he is not at fault I would hardly say I support GWB fervently. if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's.Quote The Saudi Goverment has never really been our friend, and at times has been shown to be a true enemy Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? When our administration did say things about them being possibly sent to other countries the liberal idiots went into fits over that and stated it was all lies. To express your discontent that our president isn't the one you wanted is one thing but to blame everything you can on one man, and be against anything that is in line with our current foreign policies, is entirely another. This is the problem we face in our elected officials grandstanding and screaming that we are so awful and our president has done this wrong and that wrong. Why won't they actually state what they truly think, and explain the solution they have come up with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #13 April 25, 2006 Quote... with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? You must be important 'cause your words are in bold. I worship you. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #14 April 25, 2006 I can tell you are torn. You are so indoctrinated that you cannot help yourself. In your heart, you know GW has made many big mistakes, but your brain will not let you see it. For instance, you say that the Saudis are not our friends. Do you know the background between the Bush family and the Saudi royals? If you don't, the truth of it might change your mind on a few things. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #15 April 25, 2006 >It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were >saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to >build weapons. And it was only a few years ago that the conservatives on here were positive Saddam had nuclear weapons, along with his other WMD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #16 April 25, 2006 QuoteIran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that Iran would halt all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if the Security Council imposes sanctions against it, and warned it might go further and hide its nuclear program... Yeah? Go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Gravitymaster 0 #2 April 25, 2006 It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 April 25, 2006 QuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. And they still belive that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 April 25, 2006 Quote....saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. I don't remember saying no evidence! I do remember saying "understandable" and "little danger". Less danger than the Soviet Union & China. Less danger than North Korea. About on a par with India & Pakistan's nuclear weapons programs (which you may remember actually stabilised THAT region). Incidentally... Has the US recently offered India & Pakistan ASSISTANCE with their nuclear programs? I'll say it (yet) again. Nuclear weapons are by their very nature a DEFENSIVE weapon. You CANNOT win a war with Nukes if both sides have them. The best you can achieve with their possession is a draw with both sides losing. Nukes fulfil Clausewitz's definition of a total and therefore unwinable war. A war you can't win isn't worth fighting. Nukes render a country "unprofitable" to invade (enforce regime change / bring "democracy)! This is why Iran wants Nukes. Why does the US want to deny them? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #5 April 25, 2006 QuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. There is no evidence they are trying to produce weapons - only strong suspicion. There was lots of evidence presented making the case on Iraq, and it turned out to be totally and completely wrong. That mistake is costing us dearly now in our attempt to keep Iran from following in the footsteps of N. Korea. I sincerely hope we can stop this very real threat, but we may not be in a position to do so. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to build weapons. There is no evidence they are trying to produce weapons - only strong suspicion. There was lots of evidence presented making the case on Iraq, and it turned out to be totally and completely wrong. That mistake is costing us dearly now in our attempt to keep Iran from following in the footsteps of N. Korea. I sincerely hope we can stop this very real threat, but we may not be in a position to do so. Z Dude quit drinking the coolaid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #7 April 25, 2006 Quote Dude quit drinking the coolaid I am not drinking the cool aid. I think we need to halt their nuclear work. That being said, there is no CONCRETE evidence that they are going to produce weapons. We had much more evidence on Iraq, and we ALL know how that turned out. By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? And when are we bringing Osama to justice exactly? Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Dude quit drinking the coolaid I am not drinking the cool aid. I think we need to halt their nuclear work. That being said, there is no CONCRETE evidence that they are going to produce weapons. We had much more evidence on Iraq, and we ALL know how that turned out. well they buried two nuke facilities and destroyed several before they could be checked By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Saudi Arabia as well. And when are we bringing Osama to justice exactly? as soon as he is shot and killed then bring the hide back for taxidermy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #9 April 25, 2006 Quote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #10 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #11 April 25, 2006 Quote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's. Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.Quote Satellite photos previous to the invasion that were shown on several TV stations repeatedly, and harped about by some of the same politicians who are against the war now, but were for it back when they voted to support it And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently Although I will defend our president when he is not at fault I would hardly say I support GWB fervently. if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's.Quote The Saudi Goverment has never really been our friend, and at times has been shown to be a true enemy Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? When our administration did say things about them being possibly sent to other countries the liberal idiots went into fits over that and stated it was all lies. To express your discontent that our president isn't the one you wanted is one thing but to blame everything you can on one man, and be against anything that is in line with our current foreign policies, is entirely another. This is the problem we face in our elected officials grandstanding and screaming that we are so awful and our president has done this wrong and that wrong. Why won't they actually state what they truly think, and explain the solution they have come up with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #13 April 25, 2006 Quote... with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? You must be important 'cause your words are in bold. I worship you. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #14 April 25, 2006 I can tell you are torn. You are so indoctrinated that you cannot help yourself. In your heart, you know GW has made many big mistakes, but your brain will not let you see it. For instance, you say that the Saudis are not our friends. Do you know the background between the Bush family and the Saudi royals? If you don't, the truth of it might change your mind on a few things. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #15 April 25, 2006 >It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were >saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to >build weapons. And it was only a few years ago that the conservatives on here were positive Saddam had nuclear weapons, along with his other WMD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #16 April 25, 2006 QuoteIran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that Iran would halt all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if the Security Council imposes sanctions against it, and warned it might go further and hide its nuclear program... Yeah? Go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Zipp0 1 #9 April 25, 2006 Quote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote By the way, where are those pesky WMD's? Iran, Syria, and Yemen, possibly Sauidi Arabia as well. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you are a riot. But hey, there was a time I believed that too, so I'll give you a pass for now. And I am ALL FOR skinning Osama. I'd do it myself as a matter of fact. Unfortunately, our government just doesn't seem that commited to catching him. Z ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #11 April 25, 2006 Quote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's. Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 April 25, 2006 QuoteQuote ok you tell me what was in those hundreds of trucks that left before we invaded?...and it wasn't normal commerce...it looked like a logistics train I have no idea what you are talking about. I also know that that hardly qualifies as PROOF. It sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.Quote Satellite photos previous to the invasion that were shown on several TV stations repeatedly, and harped about by some of the same politicians who are against the war now, but were for it back when they voted to support it And lets say you are right, for argument's sake. Why do you support Bush so fervently Although I will defend our president when he is not at fault I would hardly say I support GWB fervently. if he is good buddies with the Saudi royal family? As you said - they are hiding the Iraqi WMD's.Quote The Saudi Goverment has never really been our friend, and at times has been shown to be a true enemy Shouldn't an upstanding guy like GW take a stand on this? When our administration did say things about them being possibly sent to other countries the liberal idiots went into fits over that and stated it was all lies. To express your discontent that our president isn't the one you wanted is one thing but to blame everything you can on one man, and be against anything that is in line with our current foreign policies, is entirely another. This is the problem we face in our elected officials grandstanding and screaming that we are so awful and our president has done this wrong and that wrong. Why won't they actually state what they truly think, and explain the solution they have come up with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #13 April 25, 2006 Quote... with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? You must be important 'cause your words are in bold. I worship you. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #14 April 25, 2006 I can tell you are torn. You are so indoctrinated that you cannot help yourself. In your heart, you know GW has made many big mistakes, but your brain will not let you see it. For instance, you say that the Saudis are not our friends. Do you know the background between the Bush family and the Saudi royals? If you don't, the truth of it might change your mind on a few things. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #15 April 25, 2006 >It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were >saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to >build weapons. And it was only a few years ago that the conservatives on here were positive Saddam had nuclear weapons, along with his other WMD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #16 April 25, 2006 QuoteIran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that Iran would halt all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if the Security Council imposes sanctions against it, and warned it might go further and hide its nuclear program... Yeah? Go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
narcimund 0 #13 April 25, 2006 Quote... with in a coherent manner that we can all understand? You must be important 'cause your words are in bold. I worship you. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #14 April 25, 2006 I can tell you are torn. You are so indoctrinated that you cannot help yourself. In your heart, you know GW has made many big mistakes, but your brain will not let you see it. For instance, you say that the Saudis are not our friends. Do you know the background between the Bush family and the Saudi royals? If you don't, the truth of it might change your mind on a few things. Z -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #15 April 25, 2006 >It wasn't too long ago that many of the Libs on here were >saying there was no evidence Iran was developing nuclear energy to >build weapons. And it was only a few years ago that the conservatives on here were positive Saddam had nuclear weapons, along with his other WMD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #16 April 25, 2006 QuoteIran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that Iran would halt all cooperation with the U.N. nuclear watchdog if the Security Council imposes sanctions against it, and warned it might go further and hide its nuclear program... Yeah? Go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
