warpedskydiver 0 #1 April 18, 2006 Palestinians: Tel Aviv Bombing Justified By LAURIE COPANS, Associated Press Writer 4 hours ago TEL AVIV, Israel - A Palestinian suicide bomber struck a packed fast-food restaurant during Passover on Monday, killing nine other people and wounding dozens in the deadliest attack in more than a year. In a sharp departure from the previous Palestinian government's condemnations of bombings, the Hamas-led administration said the attack resulted from Israel's "brutal aggression." The bloodshed and the hard-line stance could set the stage for harsh Israeli reprisals and endanger Palestinian efforts to secure desperately needed international aid. Israel said it held Hamas responsible for the attack _ even though another group claimed responsibility _ and Israel's security chiefs were meeting later Monday to discuss what action to take. Security officials said a ground operation in Gaza was not being considered. The attack occurred just two hours before Israel's newly elected parliament was sworn into office, and Prime Minister-designate Ehud Olmert said Israel would react to the bombing with appropriate means. The White House condemned the attack and warned of grave consequences for the new Palestinian government. "It is a despicable act of terror for which there is no excuse or justification," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "Defense or sponsorship of terrorist acts by officials of the Palestinian Cabinet will have the gravest effects on relations between the Palestinian Authority and all states seeking peace in the Middle East." The European Union, which has cut off aid to the Hamas-led government, also denounced the bombing and called for restraint by both sides. Islamic Jihad, which has close ties to Israel's arch enemy, Iran, claimed responsibility for the attack, the first in Israel since the Hamas Cabinet took office 2 1/2 weeks ago. The blast came amid a sharp increase in fighting between Israel and the Palestinians across the Gaza border. Militants have fired barrages of homemade rockets at Israel, and Israel has responded with artillery fire. A 17-year-old Palestinian in the northern Gaza town of Beit Lahiya was killed Monday in the shelling, Palestinian officials said. The suicide bombing took place about 1:40 p.m. when the bomber, carrying a bag stuffed with 10 pounds of explosives, approached "The Mayor's Falafel" restaurant in a busy neighborhood near Tel Aviv's central bus station. The restaurant, which had been the target of a bombing in January, was packed with Israelis on vacation during the weeklong Passover holiday. A guard outside was checking the bomber's bag when the device exploded, police and witnesses said. "Suddenly there was a boom. The whole restaurant flew in the air," said Azi Otmazgo, 35, who was wounded on his hands, foot and head. The bomb, laced with nails and other projectiles, shattered car windshields, smashed windows of nearby buildings and blew away the restaurant's sign. Glass shards and blood splattered the ground. Police said the guard was torn in half by the blast. The explosion killed a woman standing near her husband and children, who were slightly wounded, said Israel Yaakov, another witness. "The father was traumatized. He went into shock. He ran to the children to gather them up, and the children were screaming, 'Mom! Mom!' and she wasn't answering, she was dead already," he said. The wounded were treated on sidewalks. One man was lying on his side, his shirt pushed up and his back covered by bandages. A bleeding woman was wheeled away on a stretcher. "Everything was a mess. Everything was blood. I saw half a body _ I don't know if it was the terrorist or the guard," said a witness who gave his name as Bentzi. Police said nine civilians and the bomber were killed and dozens of others were wounded. The attack was the deadliest since a double suicide bombing on two buses in the southern city of Beersheba killed 16 people on Aug. 31, 2004. It was the second major Passover bombing in four years. An 2002 attack at a hotel in the coastal town of Netanya killed 29 people and triggered a major Israeli military offensive. Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Gideon Meir said the government held Hamas responsible for the attack because it is "giving support to all the other terrorist organizations." "From our point of view it doesn't matter if it comes from Al Aqsa, Islamic Jihad or Hamas. They all come out of the same school of terrorism led by Hamas," Meir said. Hamas, responsible for dozens of suicide bombings in recent years, has largely observed a 16-month truce with Israel. Yet in a sharp departure from previous government's immediate condemnations of such attacks, Hamas leaders defended the bombing. "We think that this operation ... is a direct result of the policy of the occupation and the brutal aggression and siege committed against our people," said Khaled Abu Helal, spokesman for the Hamas-led Interior Ministry. The moderate Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas of the rival Fatah party, condemned the bombing, and said he had ordered Palestinian security forces to prevent future attacks. Abbas is currently in a power struggle with Hamas, and it remains unclear who is ultimately in charge of the Palestinians' security forces. "These kinds of attacks harm the Palestinian interest, and we as an authority and government must move to stop it," Abbas said. "We will not stop pursuing anyone who carries out such attacks." Israeli President Moshe Katsav appealed to the Palestinians to reject violence. "I call on the Palestinians not to show weakness of spirit in the struggle for peace. We want to believe that the political path of the Hamas government is not the path of the Palestinians," he said. Islamic Jihad identified Monday's bomber as Samer Hammad, 21, from a village outside the West Bank town of Jenin. In a video released by the group, Hammad said the bombing was dedicated to the thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. "There are many other bombers on the way," he said. Islamic Jihad was behind eight of the nine suicide bombings carried out since a Feb. 8, 2005, truce declaration. The group's exiled leader, Ramadan Shallah, said Sunday that its militants were making "nonstop efforts" to infiltrate suicide bombers into Israel. "The nonstop crackdown against our resistance might limit this effort, but it's not going to stop it," he said in a statement posted on the group's Web site. Shallah made his comments at an anti-Israel conference in Iran. The attack _ and the Hamas refusal to condemn it _ complicated efforts to raise money for the bankrupt Palestinian treasury. The Hamas government is two weeks behind on paying March salaries for the government's 140,000 workers. The U.S. and European Union cut off aid to the government because Hamas refused their demands to renounce violence and recognize Israel's right to exist. Israel also stopped transferring tens of millions of tax dollars it collects on the Palestinians' behalf every month. Hamas says it will turn to Muslim countries to make up its budget shortfall. Iran and Qatar have each pledged $50 million. Quote Hamas is so full of shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #2 April 18, 2006 Quote. . . killing nine other people . . . There, fixed it. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #3 April 18, 2006 people thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #4 April 18, 2006 Quotepeople thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Nice thought, hold onto it for twenty years or so. There were negotiations about 10-15 years ago, with an agreement signed. But the Palestinians never controlled the bombers, while the Israeils went on building new settlements AND assasinating the Prime Minister who negotiated & signed the deal. But suicide bombings in crowded markets have got sooo old, so very "last year". This is the Hamas crowd running the Palestinian Authority now. They don't give a shit and have said so. How would you like it if some Hamas asshole blew up your favorite supermarket - or dropzone. The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. It's the kind of shit they can relate to on their level. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #5 April 18, 2006 QuoteThere were negotiations about 10-15 years ago i remember the famous handshake (not a funny skydiver one though ) on the White House lawn, pity it all came to nothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #6 April 18, 2006 Quote you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Any time we have declared war on something other than a country, it has been a miserable failure. Prime example: War on drugs Zipp0 -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #7 April 18, 2006 QuoteQuotepeople thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Nice thought, hold onto it for twenty years or so. There were negotiations about 10-15 years ago, with an agreement signed. But the Palestinians never controlled the bombers, while the Israeils went on building new settlements AND assasinating the Prime Minister who negotiated & signed the deal. But suicide bombings in crowded markets have got sooo old, so very "last year". This is the Hamas crowd running the Palestinian Authority now. They don't give a shit and have said so. How would you like it if some Hamas asshole blew up your favorite supermarket - or dropzone. The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. It's the kind of shit they can relate to on their level. Exactly they cannot fathom any other response Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #8 April 18, 2006 Yeah, they'd "relate" to it with more suicide bombings. It has apparently become a sacrament. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #9 April 18, 2006 >The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. WOW, an eye opener, a lib finally talking tough. Iraq insurgents not worth the fight, Hamas, kill every man, woman and child. I believe many a post back we i.e. the US military were evil doers, oops sorry, redirect "Bush / Cheny" are the evil doers for fighting thugs in Iraq. tbrown on record that there maybe a time to hit back hard. Sorry Mr. Brown but many on the left believe as jumpingjimmy that through negotiations we are able to make killers nice and not hate us. You will find no support for your view from the left, only contempt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #10 April 18, 2006 fuck the left/right bullshit. what works is what works, and what won't work won't work. clearly just switching off your brain & dropping bombs doesn't work. Might make you feel better though. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #11 April 18, 2006 Quote>The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. WOW, an eye opener, a lib finally talking tough. Iraq insurgents not worth the fight, Hamas, kill every man, woman and child. I believe many a post back we i.e. the US military were evil doers, oops sorry, redirect "Bush / Cheny" are the evil doers for fighting thugs in Iraq. tbrown on record that there maybe a time to hit back hard. Sorry Mr. Brown but many on the left believe as jumpingjimmy that through negotiations we are able to make killers nice and not hate us. You will find no support for your view from the left, only contempt. Here is a hint... TBrown probably doesn't give a fuck if they don't approve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #12 April 18, 2006 Thank you! Some people want to discuss the issues, other people are obsessed with which "team" you belong to. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #13 April 18, 2006 QuoteSome people want to discuss the issues, other people are obsessed with which "team" you belong to. careful - I get flamed for that kind of comment all the time which team are you covering up for anyway? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #14 April 18, 2006 the swedish bikini team. But I'm not "covering up" for them. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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skydyvr 0 #2 April 18, 2006 Quote. . . killing nine other people . . . There, fixed it. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #3 April 18, 2006 people thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #4 April 18, 2006 Quotepeople thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Nice thought, hold onto it for twenty years or so. There were negotiations about 10-15 years ago, with an agreement signed. But the Palestinians never controlled the bombers, while the Israeils went on building new settlements AND assasinating the Prime Minister who negotiated & signed the deal. But suicide bombings in crowded markets have got sooo old, so very "last year". This is the Hamas crowd running the Palestinian Authority now. They don't give a shit and have said so. How would you like it if some Hamas asshole blew up your favorite supermarket - or dropzone. The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. It's the kind of shit they can relate to on their level. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #5 April 18, 2006 QuoteThere were negotiations about 10-15 years ago i remember the famous handshake (not a funny skydiver one though ) on the White House lawn, pity it all came to nothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #6 April 18, 2006 Quote you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Any time we have declared war on something other than a country, it has been a miserable failure. Prime example: War on drugs Zipp0 -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 April 18, 2006 QuoteQuotepeople thought the violence in Northern Ireland would never stop... but it finally has because of negotiation. Untill both Israel and the Palestinian leaders get together and thrash out yet another peace deal, this kind of thing will go on and on and on and...... you can't stop/win a war on terror by military means, only negotiation will bring and end to conflicts like this Nice thought, hold onto it for twenty years or so. There were negotiations about 10-15 years ago, with an agreement signed. But the Palestinians never controlled the bombers, while the Israeils went on building new settlements AND assasinating the Prime Minister who negotiated & signed the deal. But suicide bombings in crowded markets have got sooo old, so very "last year". This is the Hamas crowd running the Palestinian Authority now. They don't give a shit and have said so. How would you like it if some Hamas asshole blew up your favorite supermarket - or dropzone. The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. It's the kind of shit they can relate to on their level. Exactly they cannot fathom any other response Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #8 April 18, 2006 Yeah, they'd "relate" to it with more suicide bombings. It has apparently become a sacrament. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #9 April 18, 2006 >The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. WOW, an eye opener, a lib finally talking tough. Iraq insurgents not worth the fight, Hamas, kill every man, woman and child. I believe many a post back we i.e. the US military were evil doers, oops sorry, redirect "Bush / Cheny" are the evil doers for fighting thugs in Iraq. tbrown on record that there maybe a time to hit back hard. Sorry Mr. Brown but many on the left believe as jumpingjimmy that through negotiations we are able to make killers nice and not hate us. You will find no support for your view from the left, only contempt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #10 April 18, 2006 fuck the left/right bullshit. what works is what works, and what won't work won't work. clearly just switching off your brain & dropping bombs doesn't work. Might make you feel better though. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 April 18, 2006 Quote>The only answer to the Hamas crowd is to level and exterminate all human life in a selected township under Hamas control, each and every time they set off one of their asshole bombs. Pick a town, kill them all - the men, women, children, young and old. Use napalm, then pound the debris into dust. Fuck 'em. WOW, an eye opener, a lib finally talking tough. Iraq insurgents not worth the fight, Hamas, kill every man, woman and child. I believe many a post back we i.e. the US military were evil doers, oops sorry, redirect "Bush / Cheny" are the evil doers for fighting thugs in Iraq. tbrown on record that there maybe a time to hit back hard. Sorry Mr. Brown but many on the left believe as jumpingjimmy that through negotiations we are able to make killers nice and not hate us. You will find no support for your view from the left, only contempt. Here is a hint... TBrown probably doesn't give a fuck if they don't approve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 April 18, 2006 Thank you! Some people want to discuss the issues, other people are obsessed with which "team" you belong to. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 April 18, 2006 QuoteSome people want to discuss the issues, other people are obsessed with which "team" you belong to. careful - I get flamed for that kind of comment all the time which team are you covering up for anyway? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 April 18, 2006 the swedish bikini team. But I'm not "covering up" for them. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
