simplyputsi 0 #1 April 17, 2006 That is what there is expected to be by the year 2020, possibly sooner. That is approximately 1 car for every 6 humans. The article I read viewed the problem from many angles. Fuel, roads, vehicle type. One can only wonder why traffic seems to only be getting worse. As a society we are just going to have to change drastically in some form in order to solve the transportation problem. Maybe it means you have a city car and a travel car. Something is going to have to give somewhere. There are just to many angles to attack such a problem from and from the sounds of the article they are attempting to look at all the options. They being the auto makers, and actually just some people who see a solution to a problem. 1 billions cars!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #2 April 17, 2006 bugger,,, less fuel for jumping!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #3 April 17, 2006 Quote As a society we are just going to have to change drastically in some form in order to solve the transportation problem. We need to all become clowns. Then we can fit a lot more people in a car. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 April 17, 2006 QuoteWe need to all become clowns. Then we can fit a lot more people in a car. I think his point was outrage that 5 of every 6 people won't have an SUV. The automakers are completely slacking in opening up the market and getting more cars out there so everyone can drive. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #5 April 17, 2006 At least somebody was paying attentionSkymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 April 17, 2006 QuoteThat is what there is expected to be by the year 2020, possibly sooner. That is approximately 1 car for every 6 humans. as long as we outnumber them. and they don't evolve to run on blood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 April 17, 2006 Quoteand they don't evolve to run on blood. It's been feeling like they do lately. I don't recall who said it, but they should give away a free Metro with every large truck now. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #8 April 17, 2006 QuoteI don't recall who said it, but they should give away a free Metro with every large truck now. That is actually what I was talking about sort of. People might need to drive two smaller vehicles instead of one big one. However that might double the amount of cars. Not so fast. Your "commuter car" wouldn't exactly be a car but rather a max two person pod pretty much that ran on electric or some other clean fuel. You'd have your own highway lanes so you would not need to worry about being smushed by a big rig or SUV. Of course then there is the whole getting to the highway, using city streets, some higher up power will have to save you then.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't recall who said it, but they should give away a free Metro with every large truck now. That is actually what I was talking about sort of. People might need to drive two smaller vehicles instead of one big one. However that might double the amount of cars. Not so fast. Your "commuter car" wouldn't exactly be a car but rather a max two person pod pretty much that ran on electric or some other clean fuel. You'd have your own highway lanes so you would not need to worry about being smushed by a big rig or SUV. Of course then there is the whole getting to the highway, using city streets, some higher up power will have to save you then. I think that there's a car in Europe that's pretty popular - dinky thing made by Swatch and one of the big Euro car manufacturers. Sounds like our commuter. You just drive it straight into a parallel parking spot and it fits - wheels at the corners, etc. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #10 April 17, 2006 >Your "commuter car" wouldn't exactly be a car but rather a max two >person pod pretty much that ran on electric or some other clean fuel. Why two person? A one-person electric vehicle plus a station wagon would likely cover a family of two's needs pretty effectively. http://www.hightechscience.org/sparrow.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #11 April 17, 2006 Save the world... get a motorbike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #12 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't recall who said it, but they should give away a free Metro with every large truck now. That is actually what I was talking about sort of. People might need to drive two smaller vehicles instead of one big one. However that might double the amount of cars. Not so fast. Your "commuter car" wouldn't exactly be a car but rather a max two person pod pretty much that ran on electric or some other clean fuel. You'd have your own highway lanes so you would not need to worry about being smushed by a big rig or SUV. Of course then there is the whole getting to the highway, using city streets, some higher up power will have to save you then. I think that there's a car in Europe that's pretty popular - dinky thing made by Swatch and one of the big Euro car manufacturers. Sounds like our commuter. You just drive it straight into a parallel parking spot and it fits - wheels at the corners, etc. http://www.usa.smart.com/brand/smartUSA.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #13 April 17, 2006 Wow those are kewl looking speedbumps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #14 April 17, 2006 I've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #15 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites simplyputsi 0 #16 April 17, 2006 QuoteSave the world... get a motorbike ABSOLUTELY!!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #17 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds If/when gas hits $5/gallon, alot of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #18 April 17, 2006 QuoteThat is approximately 1 car for every 6 humans. I own two vehicles. I'm happy to be contributing more than my fair share to this issue. But don't worry, I can only drive one at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #19 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #20 April 17, 2006 The side view of those sparrows look like VW Beetles that had been flattened by an eighteen wheeler. I'll keep my El Camino SS and my 57 Chevy."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #21 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. My bike gets around 45mpg at cruising speeds of 70-90mph it also eats way more gas when I twist the throttle to the stop but what do you want for something that will do around 188mph or so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #22 April 18, 2006 What kind of bike do you have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #23 April 18, 2006 QuoteWhat kind of bike do you have? http://www.alloccasionperformers.com/images/i-unicycle.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #24 April 18, 2006 1992 GSXR 1100 (1127cc) with yosh cams and few mods...almost stock...well kinda next week I need to order the new wiring harness for it...has a short so I need a new front harness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #25 April 18, 2006 Gas prices last week in San Diego (about 10 cents higher this week) - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Amazon 7 #13 April 17, 2006 Wow those are kewl looking speedbumps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #14 April 17, 2006 I've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #15 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites simplyputsi 0 #16 April 17, 2006 QuoteSave the world... get a motorbike ABSOLUTELY!!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #17 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds If/when gas hits $5/gallon, alot of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #18 April 17, 2006 QuoteThat is approximately 1 car for every 6 humans. I own two vehicles. I'm happy to be contributing more than my fair share to this issue. But don't worry, I can only drive one at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #19 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #20 April 17, 2006 The side view of those sparrows look like VW Beetles that had been flattened by an eighteen wheeler. I'll keep my El Camino SS and my 57 Chevy."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #21 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. My bike gets around 45mpg at cruising speeds of 70-90mph it also eats way more gas when I twist the throttle to the stop but what do you want for something that will do around 188mph or so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #22 April 18, 2006 What kind of bike do you have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpingjimmy 0 #23 April 18, 2006 QuoteWhat kind of bike do you have? http://www.alloccasionperformers.com/images/i-unicycle.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #24 April 18, 2006 1992 GSXR 1100 (1127cc) with yosh cams and few mods...almost stock...well kinda next week I need to order the new wiring harness for it...has a short so I need a new front harness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #25 April 18, 2006 Gas prices last week in San Diego (about 10 cents higher this week) - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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jumpingjimmy 0 #15 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #16 April 17, 2006 QuoteSave the world... get a motorbike ABSOLUTELY!!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #17 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? they could do, but who would want a yamaha R1 that only does 120mph flat out and 0 - 60 in 12 seconds If/when gas hits $5/gallon, alot of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 April 17, 2006 QuoteThat is approximately 1 car for every 6 humans. I own two vehicles. I'm happy to be contributing more than my fair share to this issue. But don't worry, I can only drive one at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 April 17, 2006 QuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #20 April 17, 2006 The side view of those sparrows look like VW Beetles that had been flattened by an eighteen wheeler. I'll keep my El Camino SS and my 57 Chevy."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #21 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI've always wondered when/if motorcycle manufacturers were going to come up with a bike designed for fuel efficiency. If I can get 35mpg in my 2700lb car, surely they could make a 300lb bike that could get 80-100mpg right? deisel motorcycles can do 240mpg. top speed = 50mph. Drag is the problem that tops out bikes in the 60-70mpg range, if their function is to be used for freeway driving. It's a bit shameful how many bikes have drifted down into the 30s, even with the addition of fuel injection. At least they're still conserving parking space, I guess. And energy cost of manufacture remains much better. BTW, outside of supersport, bikes tend to run closer to 500lbs. My bike gets around 45mpg at cruising speeds of 70-90mph it also eats way more gas when I twist the throttle to the stop but what do you want for something that will do around 188mph or so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #22 April 18, 2006 What kind of bike do you have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #23 April 18, 2006 QuoteWhat kind of bike do you have? http://www.alloccasionperformers.com/images/i-unicycle.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 April 18, 2006 1992 GSXR 1100 (1127cc) with yosh cams and few mods...almost stock...well kinda next week I need to order the new wiring harness for it...has a short so I need a new front harness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #25 April 18, 2006 Gas prices last week in San Diego (about 10 cents higher this week) - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites