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>So you would have no objection to a rule mandating no wing
>loadings greater than 1.0?
I would have no objections to a rule mandating no wing loadings greater than 1.0 until you finish the student program. Brian Germain's recommendations are a good guide.
>loadings greater than 1.0?
I would have no objections to a rule mandating no wing loadings greater than 1.0 until you finish the student program. Brian Germain's recommendations are a good guide.
A person would be a fool to enter the back country without a firearm. Bear bells, pepper spray and blowing a whistle every now and then will simply not protect you. And a person should know what to do when confronted with a bear or big cat. I would be more afraid of a cat than a bear-unless it was a grizzly. From what I understand, if you shoot a grizzly, no matter the reason, it's a 10K fine at the very least. While in Glacier in 2000, the big story was about a local who shot a grizzly in his back yard because it was trying to get into his house-that guy got jail time too I think. And last year a friend of mine who's brother works on a ranch in NM shot and killed a bear that had false charged him twice. He was worried the "authorities" would find out resulting in a 500$ for killing a bear out of season.
But, by far, more people die every year of exposer in the back country than of animal attacks.
I have had one bear sighting on a trail and it was in the La Sal mountains that overlook Moab. We were hiking a trial up to an alpine lake. We walked over a small embankment, and there the bear was. It was about 40ft from us and I don't think it ever even saw us as we backed tracked! That bear was a really amazing sight!
Another time I was paddling the Green River through Canyonlands and came across a German group whose campsite was surrounded by mountain lion tracks that were very big and very fresh! These German people had no idea a cat was watching them! Never did get to see the cat.
I am leaving for the Gila Wilderness for 6-10 days of backpacking the first two weeks of May and hope very much to see bears and mountain lions-from a safe distance of course! If I can get one good picture, I will be very happy! Of course, I will be armed with pepper spray and a .45 if Smokey and Sylvester want to play too rough! But still no guarantees!
We must kill it or else it will die-------South Park!
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
But, by far, more people die every year of exposer in the back country than of animal attacks.
I have had one bear sighting on a trail and it was in the La Sal mountains that overlook Moab. We were hiking a trial up to an alpine lake. We walked over a small embankment, and there the bear was. It was about 40ft from us and I don't think it ever even saw us as we backed tracked! That bear was a really amazing sight!
Another time I was paddling the Green River through Canyonlands and came across a German group whose campsite was surrounded by mountain lion tracks that were very big and very fresh! These German people had no idea a cat was watching them! Never did get to see the cat.
I am leaving for the Gila Wilderness for 6-10 days of backpacking the first two weeks of May and hope very much to see bears and mountain lions-from a safe distance of course! If I can get one good picture, I will be very happy! Of course, I will be armed with pepper spray and a .45 if Smokey and Sylvester want to play too rough! But still no guarantees!
We must kill it or else it will die-------South Park!"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
Quote>So you would have no objection to a rule mandating no wing
>loadings greater than 1.0?
I would have no objections to a rule mandating no wing loadings greater than 1.0 until you finish the student program. Brian Germain's recommendations are a good guide.
Stop trying to hijack the thread!
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
JohnRich 4
Quote>So you would have no objection to a rule mandating no wing
>loadings greater than 1.0?
I would have no objections to a rule mandating no wing loadings greater than 1.0 until you finish the student program. Brian Germain's recommendations are a good guide.
And if such a rule was applied across the board to jumpers of all experience levels (remember, we've using an analogy about treating everyone as the lowest common denominator), would that then be enough to make you protest?
Quote***Bear downs 36 beers, passes out at campground
Rainier, not Busch, the beverage of choice for thirsty black bear....
There HAS to be an advertising campaign in there!
"Budweiser. The FUN bear repellent!"
"Bud Light. The SAFE backwoods booze!"
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
OATSF14 0
Quoteas the cougar stalked up on them. One was in Montana, and the other in Colorado.
Thanks.
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I'm moving to Colorado in 2 weeks. Guess on my camping trips my SKS and revolver will be going along with me.
OATSF14 0
QuoteI am leaving for the Gila Wilderness for 6-10 days of backpacking the first two weeks of May
Enjoy. Hope you have a really nice time.
Amazon 7
QuoteI'm moving to Colorado in 2 weeks. Guess on my camping trips my SKS and revolver will be going along with me.
Uh hopefully the revolver has a tad more power than the SKS...
You may want to find something that chambers something with a tad more stopping power than the 7.62 x 39MM FMJ rounds typically found for the Russian and ChiCom version SKS or AK.
When I take trips into bear country I have my .44 Mag Ruger and for a long gun I take a .300 Win Mag with Nosler bullets that will actually put a Grizz down if I have to.
Also a good review of camp cleanliness and food handling and safety is in order for the whole family.
Little things like wiping your hands on your clothing... or taking clothing you have cooked in... or even worse tanking any food into your tent.. is a major bad juju.
QuoteQuoteI'm moving to Colorado in 2 weeks. Guess on my camping trips my SKS and revolver will be going along with me.
Uh hopefully the revolver has a tad more power than the SKS...
You may want to find something that chambers something with a tad more stopping power than the 7.62 x 54MM FMJ rounds typically found for the Russian and ChiCom version SKS or AK.
When I take trips into bear country I have my .44 Mag Ruger and for a long gun I take a .300 Win Mag with Nosler bullets that will actually put a Grizz down if I have to.
Also a good review of camp cleanliness and food handling and safety is in order for the whole family.
Little things like wiping your hands on your clothing... or taking clothing you have cooked in... or even worse tanking any food into your tent.. is a major bad juju.
Um Amazon I know you are a Veteran so I won't lecture you at all on this but I will point out the SKS/AK family of weapons are chambered in 7.62x39mm
I do agree with you that the SKS is good for almost nothing but plinking etc.
nice cheap weapon to fire and terrible ballistics
or in other words 30cal weak
7.62x54mm is a very potent round and will kill nearly any animal on earth if proper shot placement is used
A shotgun firing 385 grain slugs @ 1900f/ps is a great self defense gun against dangerous game
I have friends who used them on huge Black Boar and it made them do somersaults
Amazon 7
QuoteUm Amazon I know you are a Veteran so I won't lecture you at all on this but I will point out the SKS/AK family of weapons are chambered in 7.62x39mm
RATS.. I kew that
I dont know where the 54mm came from maybe I was thinking of the Mosin Nagant round too...eeesh
OATSF14 0
Thank you for the info. It will be done.
Amazon 7
The kewl thing is.. if you decide to take a trip north of the border a long gun with a box of ammo is no issue from Canadian Customs.. When I am heading to the far north into the bush ( Yukon or NWT).. they are very accepting of that as a choice of things to bring along for self protection in the bush.
Now the handgun on the other hand.. do not even bother.. they go into apoplectic fits if they even think you have a handgun or anything that is semi auto. Just make sure your weapon of choice is a bolt action and you are good to go.
Now the handgun on the other hand.. do not even bother.. they go into apoplectic fits if they even think you have a handgun or anything that is semi auto. Just make sure your weapon of choice is a bolt action and you are good to go.
craddock 0
QuoteI do agree with you that the SKS is good for almost nothing but plinking etc.
or in other words 30cal weak
Absolutely tBullshit. Out to Mabey 200(100 for sure) yards this cartridge is very suitable for whitetail. Many people hunt in heavy cover where a shot over 50 yards is not possible. Many deer have been brought down over the years with a cheap SKS. I have shot many deer with a 30-30 which does not have much better ballistics.
I could take an AK-47(I don't own or have any interest in owning one) and stalk deer out in heavy cover where I hunt and not be limited by the cartridge one bit.
Next your going to tell us that my Hoyt V-tech(Bow) is good for almost nothing because YOU can't take 1000 yard pot shots with it?
I find it funny that someone with as poor of Hunting Ethics as yourself can claim that the 7.62x39mm is good for almost nothing. What's up with that?
Of course Amazon was right that it is a poor choice for protection against Bear.
That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.
JohnRich 4
QuoteAlso a good review of camp cleanliness and food handling and safety is in order for the whole family.
It's recommended that food be suspended in a bag from a tree limb by a rope, about 100 yards downwind from your camp site.
That way if the bear does manage to get your food, he won't find you along with it.
Amazon 7
Uh John.. I did not see a whole lot of trees there in your pictures of Big Bend
JohnRich 4
QuoteUh John.. I did not see a whole lot of trees there in your pictures of Big Bend
Nope, there aren't many. Just a few cottonwoods at spring water holes. But there aren't many bears in the desert either, so it works out.
Now if I could just find a sure-fire way not to run into rattlesnakes, I'd be much more comfortable.
Amazon 7
MMMM rattlesnakes... MMMMMM
I have a bad habit of making deep fried snake steaks out of them....welll REAL ones not these pansy ass timber rattlesnakes up here that only get to a couple feet long.. not really worth the bother.
But give me a 6 ft Eastern Diamond back.... MMMMMM
Finding rattlers is usually easy.. early morning.. east facing rockpiles near hillsides where they can warm up with the first warming rays of the sun...
Mid day...shady areas under brush or in rockpiles..
Twilight to night..... near small animal trails... especially around water sources or feeding areas.
I have a bad habit of making deep fried snake steaks out of them....welll REAL ones not these pansy ass timber rattlesnakes up here that only get to a couple feet long.. not really worth the bother.
But give me a 6 ft Eastern Diamond back.... MMMMMM
Finding rattlers is usually easy.. early morning.. east facing rockpiles near hillsides where they can warm up with the first warming rays of the sun...
Mid day...shady areas under brush or in rockpiles..
Twilight to night..... near small animal trails... especially around water sources or feeding areas.
QuoteQuoteAlso a good review of camp cleanliness and food handling and safety is in order for the whole family.
It's recommended that food be suspended in a bag from a tree limb by a rope, about 100 yards downwind from your camp site.
That way if the bear does manage to get your food, he won't find you along with it.
I have done this a number of times, but this year I bought, along with all my cool new gear, a bear vault. The guy at REI said they filled the vault with food, covered it with honey and gave it to the bears! It took a few hours for the bears to give up trying to open it! I would get a real kick if I saw two bears playing "ball" with my food vault! Maybe I could get a good pic and sell it to REI!
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
QuoteMMMM rattlesnakes... MMMMMM
I have a bad habit of making deep fried snake steaks out of them....welll REAL ones not these pansy ass timber rattlesnakes up here that only get to a couple feet long.. not really worth the bother.
But give me a 6 ft Eastern Diamond back.... MMMMMM
Man, I love fried Rattlesnake!!!!!!!!! With Ranch dressing!!!!!!!
"Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance,
others mean and rueful of the western dream"
JohnRich 4
QuoteFinding rattlers is usually easy.. early morning.. east facing rockpiles near hillsides where they can warm up with the first warming rays of the sun...
Mid day...shady areas under brush or in rockpiles..
Twilight to night..... near small animal trails... especially around water sources or feeding areas.
You just taught me something new. I had never thought about this before, but it makes perfect sense. Thinking back over my few rattlesnake encounters, your comments ring true.
I'm altering my hiking habits right now to take this into account.
Although I always have a walking stick with me, and when there's a questionable area, I poke around with my stick first before putting body parts there.
Attached: rattler hiding inside brush, mid-day, just as you said. I heard him before I saw him. Scared the hell out of me because I didn't know where he was!
Richards 0
I'm not very familiar with rattlesnakes, but I did see an interesting documentary once (Yes I know, armchair expert). Anyway the guy was saying that the majority of all rattlesnake bites are from people trying to pick them up (sounds like a fucking dense thing to do but then what do I know). Apparently they try to avoid biting because it is safer to try to get away than to bite. He demonstrated this by wearing thick leg coverings and stepping near, and on numerous rattlers. In only one case did a rattler bite when stepped on. In most cases they just rattled like nuts. He had a mechanical arm, and proceeded to poke at them with it and they never seemed to bite until the hand closed around them and started to pick them up.
He also pointed out that most rattlers cannot bite above knee level (just taking his word on this ) and yet the majority of bites are on the arm or hand. Most victims apparently claim they were doing nothing and were bitten on the arm. When confronted with the limittations of a rattler most people then claimed they were bending down to pick something else up and accidentally touched it.
If true, I once again am staggered to think that these people are part of the same species can put people on the moon.
Richards
He also pointed out that most rattlers cannot bite above knee level (just taking his word on this ) and yet the majority of bites are on the arm or hand. Most victims apparently claim they were doing nothing and were bitten on the arm. When confronted with the limittations of a rattler most people then claimed they were bending down to pick something else up and accidentally touched it.
If true, I once again am staggered to think that these people are part of the same species can put people on the moon.
Richards
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.
Rainier Beer. DO NOT leave the campsite without it.
Richards
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