Gravitymaster 0 #1 April 12, 2006 US to deploy RPG-busting 'force field' Classified Israeli tech bound for Iraq By Lester HainesPublished Wednesday 12th April 2006 00:02 GMT The US is to field test an innovative Israeli set-up designed to act as a "force field" around armoured vehicles, protecting them from rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and anti-tank missiles, according to a Fox News report. The system, dubbed "Trophy", uses radar to track incoming threats and then destroys them when they're in range by attacking the warheads with an "invisible force", according to Fox. Quite how it does this is, unsurprisingly, classified, but Defense Update understands Trophy is "designed to form a 'beam' of fragments, which will intercept any incoming HEAT threat, including RPG rockets at a range of 10 metres to 30 meters from the protected platform". The countermeasure is, then, actually physical - a fact confirmed by Defense Update, which explains the system has "an automatic reload mechanism to handle multiple attacks", although that's about as specific as it gets. The sceptical among you should note that Trophy has allegedly completed "hundreds of live tests with the Israel Defense Forces and demonstrated effective neutralisation of anti-tank rockets and guided missiles, high safety levels, insignificant residual penetration, and minimal collateral damage". Trophy is claimed to be effective against several simultaneous threats from different directions, whether the protected vehicle is stationary or moving, and in all weathers. According to Fox, Trophy will soon get a chance to strut its stuff in Iraq. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WOW talk about Buck Rogers technology. Hopefully this will help protect our guys in Iraq. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 April 12, 2006 Where's Twiggy? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #3 April 12, 2006 old technology... dropzone.com to test a "force shield"-like internet search before reposting news from biased sources, which immediately repels propaganda from all angles. The system, dubbed "Google", uses website spiders to track incoming propaganda and reveals it when it is time with an "invisible force", according to investors. Quite how it does this, unsurprisingly, is a trade secret, but industry whitepapers suggest that the algorithm involves...My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 April 12, 2006 Quoteold technology... dropzone.com to test a "force shield"-like internet search before reposting news from biased sources, which immediately repels propaganda from all angles. The system, dubbed "Google", uses website spiders to track incoming propaganda and reveals it when it is time with an "invisible force", according to investors. Quite how it does this, unsurprisingly, is a trade secret, but industry whitepapers suggest that the algorithm involves... Oh please enlighten us with something more than an attack on the source. WEAK...... How about a link to the original post. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #5 April 12, 2006 A "beam of fragments"? Sounds like an offshoot of the reactive armor that's on some vehicles....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 April 12, 2006 Check it out http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8 - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #7 April 12, 2006 pretty cool! hope it works! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #8 April 12, 2006 Dude, I sat in on meetings that mentioned DARPA efforts to develop teleportation, ala Star Trek...Most of the whiz-bang technologies will happen-it's merely a question of when.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 April 12, 2006 Damned interesting - in the first couple of examples, you can see the fragments flying past the incoming warhead. Looking at it in action, it seems more like the protective idea of the Navy's Phalanx Close In Weapons System (CIWS) adapted to an armor role. Defensetech.org's coverage of testing shows that it has the capability to differentiate between rounds that will hit and ones that will miss, as well. There appears to be a couple of other similar systems under development, as well. Anyone else read Keith Laumer's "Bolo" books and draw a parallel?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 April 12, 2006 The Defensetech site is pretty cool. Interesting that this system was developed by the Israelis when it appears to be similar to some of the other ones we already have. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 April 12, 2006 I think collateral damage from fragment misses could be problematical, but I don't know a way that it could be reduced.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #12 April 12, 2006 QuoteDude, I sat in on meetings that mentioned DARPA efforts to develop teleportation, ala Star Trek...Most of the whiz-bang technologies will happen-it's merely a question of when. You mean in the year two thousand and never. .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #13 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteDude, I sat in on meetings that mentioned DARPA efforts to develop teleportation, ala Star Trek...Most of the whiz-bang technologies will happen-it's merely a question of when. You mean in the year two thousand and never. .jim that's the scientific spirit!! ...of course, that's what they said about the sound barrier among other things right?"Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #14 April 12, 2006 Teleportation and skydiving... mmmm 22k all day... sweetLife is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 April 12, 2006 I can't believe they are wasting time on this when they haven't even perfected the Sharks with frickin' laser beams yet........ Besides, they need to figure out how to align the dilithium crystals first......---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #16 April 12, 2006 Sounds like a shotgun slaved to a radar with a Doppler gate. Not really new technology; the Phalanx system is similar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #17 April 12, 2006 It's a force field Bill, it's totally new!1!!!!11! .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 April 12, 2006 QuoteSounds like a shotgun slaved to a radar with a Doppler gate. Not really new technology; the Phalanx system is similar. Maybe you could give them some tips on the laser beam equipped sharks. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 April 12, 2006 Some additional information. Matters not whether the technology is new or not. What's new is the application to tanks. Sad some people find something negative in everything. Must suck to be them. http://www.defense-update.com/products/t/trophy.htm - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #20 April 12, 2006 CIWS. . .(Sea Whiz) coolest weapon we have on board. We like to annoy the Fire Controlmen with the acronymn: Captain, It Won't Shoot. We use CIWS, Guns, and Missiles to take out imbound missiles on board ships. I'm pretty sure this might work. CIWS expierence tells me ,though, that you don't want troops anywhere near the vicinity of the tank as the debris of the shattered rocket will still pepper the tank and areas around it._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 April 12, 2006 LOL...definitely!! My ex-BIL was one of the people on the Navy side of the development team, way back when... he said it was definitely a bad ass system when it was all working like it was supposed to....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #22 April 12, 2006 Big deal. Regular armor works due to a force field. The electroweak force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 April 12, 2006 Quote Big deal. Regular armor works due to a force field. The electroweak force. Your point being??Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #24 April 12, 2006 I think he's using that Quantum Field Theory thingie to explain or make fun of the reporters' description of startrek-eque "force field protection"_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 April 12, 2006 QuoteI think he's using that Quantum Field Theory thingie to explain or make fun of the reporters' description of startrek-eque "force field protection" Gotcha... Yeah, the description of it as a "force field" is a bit misleading....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites