There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998

[DJL 235]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:01 PM, brenthutch said:

Or as I like to say, fantasy v reality.

You just literally equated your "reality" to "straws".

[olofscience 490]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:18 PM, brenthutch said:

And price, price, price and cold weather performance

And those are the only reasons people buy vehicles?

Good talk.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/7/2020 at 12:29 PM, olofscience said:

...am I talking to a wall?

You're just figuring that out, aren't you?

[olofscience 490]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:30 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

You're just figuring that out, aren't you?

I was really hoping there was the slightest sign of a brain behind his username. Alas.

[gowlerk 2,260]

  On 5/6/2020 at 4:15 PM, olofscience said:

What you are though, is irrelevant.

He would be irrelevant if only people would stop replying.

[olofscience 490]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:37 PM, gowlerk said:

He would be irrelevant if only people would stop replying.

I think even then he would still be irrelevant. He's like a flat earther. He will still be shouting "EVs have no future!" as the last gasoline cars are sent to the scrapyard.

[DJL 235]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:45 PM, olofscience said:

I think even then he would still be irrelevant. He's like a flat earther. He will still be shouting "EVs have no future!" as the last gasoline cars are sent to the scrapyard.

Just wait until you get to phase II of Brent, when he actually has to admit he's wrong and says something like, "Well, I prefer an open field to glaciers anyway."

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:35 PM, olofscience said:

I was really hoping there was the slightest sign of a brain behind his username. Alas.

He's not really stupid. He just acts that way.

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:50 PM, DJL said:

Just wait until you get to phase II of Brent, when he actually has to admit he's wrong and says something like, "Well, I prefer an open field to glaciers anyway."

He knows that both US coasts are predominantly inhabited by liberals. Coastal flooding is his way of punishing them for always being right.

[wmw999 2,560]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:50 PM, DJL said:

Just wait until you get to phase II of Brent, when he actually has to admit he's wrong and says something like, "Well, I prefer an open field to glaciers anyway."

If hell froze over, he'd say it was proof that global warming isn't happening.

Wendy P.

[airdvr 210]

  On 5/7/2020 at 4:13 PM, wmw999 said:

If hell froze over, he'd say it was proof that global warming isn't happening.

Wendy P.

Well...that kinda would be a point don't you think?

[gowlerk 2,260]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:59 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

He's not really stupid. He just acts that way.

More to the point, he acts as if we all are stupid,

[airdvr 210]

I've waved the white flag when it comes to the new Green order.  Or should that be a green one?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/7/2020 at 4:49 PM, airdvr said:

I've waved the white flag when it comes to the new Green order.  Or should that be a green one?

Out of curiosity, do you believe that AGW is really happening? You may have said one way or the other in the past, I can't remember. 

That the earth is getting warmer, that human activity is the cause, and that it's going to get worse?

Not trying to play 'gotcha', just wondering.

You can believe that AGW is real and still be against the "New Green Deal". 

[JerryBaumchen 1,451]

  On 5/7/2020 at 1:59 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

He's not really stupid. He just acts that way.

Hi Joe,

How do you know that?

Jerry Baumchen

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/7/2020 at 5:29 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

How do you know that?

Jerry Baumchen

He's too good at finding all the lies that pretend AGW doesn't exist to be 'stupid'. 
He's very good at arguing his points. Even the blatantly false ones. 

Also, his posts have excellent grammar & spelling. 

 

[DJL 235]

  On 5/7/2020 at 4:13 PM, wmw999 said:

If hell froze over, he'd say it was proof that global warming isn't happening.

Wendy P.

According to the Apostle Belinda Carlisle, Heaven is a place on Earth.

[DJL 235]

  On 5/7/2020 at 4:49 PM, airdvr said:

I've waved the white flag when it comes to the new Green order.  Or should that be a green one?

Even our cool aid is green.

[airdvr 210]

KoolAid man!  With a K

[brenthutch 444]

  On 5/7/2020 at 5:25 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

Out of curiosity, do you believe that AGW is really happening? You may have said one way or the other in the past, I can't remember. 

That the earth is getting warmer, that human activity is the cause, and that it's going to get worse?

Not trying to play 'gotcha', just wondering.

You can believe that AGW is real and still be against the "New Green Deal". 

It’s the A in AGW that I am not buying.  And the notion that we can control the weather if we just had the right mix of solar panels and windmills is just folly.  
 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/7/2020 at 6:12 PM, brenthutch said:

It’s the A in AGW that I am not buying.  And the notion that we can control the weather if we just had the right mix of solar panels and windmills is just folly.  
 

So you don't think the activity of humans, the dumping of billions of tons of CO2 into the atmsophere is what's causing it?

I agree that reversing it is going to be virtually impossible, but I don't disagree that we are causing it.

Similar to acid rain (shut down and most of the damage has repaired itself), the hole in the Ozone Layer (again, CFCs reduced to the point that the Ozone Layer is coming back mostly), lead in the air (unleaded gas fixed that almost overnight) and smog in the major cities (not gone, but seriously improved).

I think that the scientists are correct, that we are causing it, but that overall, we're going to ignore it until it's too late.
Then we (humanity as a whole, I'll be long gone) will be screwed.

[billvon 3,090]

  On 5/7/2020 at 6:12 PM, brenthutch said:

It’s the A in AGW that I am not buying.

The A is the easiest thing to prove.  Fossil fuel CO2/CH4 has a different isotope profile than natural CO2/CH4.  We can prove that the new gases come from us.

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 And the notion that we can control the weather if we just had the right mix of solar panels and windmills is just folly.  

We can't control the weather.  No one claims we can.  We can make it warmer by burning as much coal and oil as we can - and we have been doing just that.

If we switched to all solar?  That would slow down and then stop the warming.  Same thing if we switched to all windmills, or all nuclear reactors.

[brenthutch 444]

  On 5/7/2020 at 6:19 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

So you don't think the activity of humans, the dumping of billions of tons of CO2 into the atmsophere is what's causing it?

I agree that reversing it is going to be virtually impossible, but I don't disagree that we are causing it.

Similar to acid rain (shut down and most of the damage has repaired itself), the hole in the Ozone Layer (again, CFCs reduced to the point that the Ozone Layer is coming back mostly), lead in the air (unleaded gas fixed that almost overnight) and smog in the major cities (not gone, but seriously improved).

I think that the scientists are correct, that we are causing it, but that overall, we're going to ignore it until it's too late.
Then we (humanity as a whole, I'll be long gone) will be screwed.

 

[brenthutch 444]

  On 5/7/2020 at 6:49 PM, billvon said:

The A is the easiest thing to prove.  Fossil fuel CO2/CH4 has a different isotope profile than natural CO2/CH4.  We can prove that the new gases come from us.

We can't control the weather.  No one claims we can.  We can make it warmer by burning as much coal and oil as we can - and we have been doing just that.

If we switched to all solar?  That would slow down and then stop the warming.  Same thing if we switched to all windmills, or all nuclear reactors.

Why is warming bad?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 5/8/2020 at 1:03 AM, brenthutch said:

Why is warming bad?

Light the burners on your stove and then stand 6 feet away. Then go and sit on it. Let me know if you have different answers.