"Bush approved intelligence leak"

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But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

Things that make you go HMMMMMM

Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl?????

My dear Amazon. In your current mode of pigeon-holing anyone who disagrees with you I believe you have commited a SC faux pax.

Please feel free to search all my posts from the time I first registered with DZ.Com, and paste the link to one post I have ever made which could be construed by even the most psychotic lunatic on here as my expressing, promoting or supporting any religion, other than one in which I supported a person right to believe in whatever they please.

I believe this faux pax was a result of being overly emotional and I certainly don't hold it against you because I believe deep down inside you are a very loving person.

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But in searching thru those myriad of posts...

I will find your undying support and complicity for the American Taliban that has insinuated itself into all aspects of this administration....You certainly are keeping company with some strange bedfellows.

Your Boss certainly appears to use religion for political purposes.

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But in searching thru those myriad of posts...

I will find your undying support and complicity for the American Taliban that has insinuated itself into all aspects of this administration....You certainly are keeping company with some strange bedfellows.

Your Boss certainly appears to use religion for political purposes.

I see. In other words, you stuck your foot in your mouth?

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NOt at all.. you are known by the company you keep.. and you boys have been keeping some pretty interesting company there in the culture of corruption... I mean you are the party of good and light and everything right.. so what happened... Maybe your hero Bush is not really talking to GOD after all.

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Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from.

As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them.

Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony

And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today.....

Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)

Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from.

As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them.

Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony.

And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today.....

Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)

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Where did I write that he breaks all laws? Please post reference. I agree, punctuation is overrated. Thanks for making the issue about me though. Back to the issue: “Bush approved intelligence leak"

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It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from.

Oh, that’s next thread where we discuss from where I get my news. I don’t understand how this affects the issue; “Bush approved intelligence leak"

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As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them.

So if you are successfully able to establish that I don’t know jack, then Bush must be innocent, right? I just don’t understand your angle here, you could hypothetically make your proof and Bush would still be Bush regardless of me. Learn how to argue the issue, no the person making the argument. Back to the issue: “Bush approved intelligence leak"

I understand why you just replied and didn’t post quotes from me, so here is the one to which you wee referring:

Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie.

The last part, the subsequent lie. See, I do know the technical reason why Clinton was impeached. Truth is, Clinton dared to against the Republican machine and was impeached for something the world other than neo-con US felt was very ridiculous. Again, neo-con US was right and 90% of the rest of the world was wrong. Factually, I doubt you realize why Clinton was impeached, the four charges where 2 were handed down as impeachments. Furthermore, I doubt you know what the process is for indictment and removal, % of votes required at each level and all kinds of other related stuff. Not that Clinton’s or Bush’s guilt or innocence rides on that knowledge.

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Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony.

As an aside, it’s hard to read someone tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about when they wrote:

“addmittied”
“purgurey”

Was there a sexual harassment suit? I don’t think there was, I think it was a Congressional investigation that was stemmed from Ken Starr‘s preliminary investigation. Oh well, same thing, right? Was Clinton sued in civil court or tried in criminal court fro the Lewinsky deal? Uh, I think not.

In some states we still have laws prohibiting Open and Notorious Cohabitation, but they are as enforced as much as spitting on the sidewalk laws. Interrogating a person in the 1990’s for getting a BJ in that capacity is entirely ridiculous and a witchhunt.

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And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today.....

Great point, the media went after Clinton just like they did Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra. Speaking of which, that was an example of scumbags being guilty as hell, but there not being enough proof. So that deflates your, “liberal media” theory when you discuss the media going after politicians, as they did with Clinton. Again, it’s ok to talk about the media, but they only report and sometimes skew the facts; doesn’t change the actual guilt or innocence of the politician.

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Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)

Wiretapping, torture, and the Libby scandal; don’t be so sure there won’t be charges coming down, especially if the House becomes Democratically controlled. Polls have the Dems very high as a result of the Republican corruption. And with gas prices even higher than Republican despise, I think the Dems will take back the House and maybe the Senate. So if anything the Dems have an upswing in popularity.

You must have forgotten to address these issue I posted in response to you:

1) Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do.

2) Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House.

3) What is this world coming to: A president held to political standards!!!

Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions.

Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction.

4) OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was.

5) Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it.

6) Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic.

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Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets

Post your assertions and my response - explain yourself and I will be glad to address it.

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Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred

Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong.

Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid.

Well put.......

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But in searching thru those myriad of posts...

I will find your undying support and complicity for the American Taliban that has insinuated itself into all aspects of this administration....You certainly are keeping company with some strange bedfellows.

Your Boss certainly appears to use religion for political purposes.

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Your Boss certainly appears to use religion for political purposes

But enough about:

1) School vouchers

2) No more stem cell research (no new embryos)

3) God in the pledge

4) Anti-abortion

5) The 28th Homophobe Amendment proposal and support

...what exactly is you point and proof that Bush uses religion as political tool??????

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I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most.

Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat.

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So you missed the thread about Christian and proud and all the responses?

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I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most.

Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat.

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So you missed the thread about Christian and proud and all the responses?

Actually, I only read a few pages of that thread because it wasn't very interesting to me. You seen to forget that an equal number of Democrats are religious. To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

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To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

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When doing a search you posted several times in the Christian and proud of it thread. OH that was an OVERSIGHT on your part.. just like your boss

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To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

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Get that shoe out of your mouth yet?

Still waiting for you to provide proof. Normally those who try to pigeon-hole people are unsuccessful.


I've heard they taste better with salt.

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Are you so blinded by all the hypocrisy you support on a daily basis...

Face it your boss is trying to form a theocracy out of our government.. the separation of church and state is so laughable now that it makes a mockery of our constitution... the founding fathers are spinning in their graves in disgust.... Talk about your foot in your mouth....is there ANYTHING in the republican neo-con platform that you do not rubber stamp with your total support?

You are a supporter of the President as godhead.... he can do no wrong in your eyes... but you are not alone.. you are part of that diehard 30% that are true believers in Bu$h and Co. Your culture of corruption is taking on new and more sinister levels every year. Just what WILL you do to maintain power...I think the election surprises are coming..

Shrub actually BELIEVES he is the only one who has the resolve to stand up and take his war of conquest to others in the Axis of Evil...how many more Americans will need to die for his religious visions.

Just remember you guys are the ones who are supposedly the party of smaller government...Uh huh right

Just remember you guys are the party of less government spending.. yeah right....( spend less on the American People.. spend more on WAR and other things you deem important for your buddies to make BILLIONS on.)

Just remember you are the ones who wrapped yourselves in the American Flag and claimed all others who do not follow your hypocritical version of patriotism are unpatriotic. Perhaps if more of you had acually served our country you would not have been in such a rush to go to war for arrogance and greed and a whole lot of your countrymen would still be alive. I guess its really cool when you can be patriotic with other peoples blood rather than your own.

Just remember you are the guys who were supposed to be moral... yet here we are with a bunch of you on your way to jail for corruption and abuse of power.

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To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

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When doing a search you posted several times in the Christian and proud of it thread. OH that was an OVERSIGHT on your part.. just like your boss

Hey, if you have no argument, just make it up. First of all, I never said I didn't make a post. I said I didn't read much of it. Here's a few things I said:

"I don't normally get involved in Religious discussions, but I found this interesting."

" Did you know humans are the only species on this planet who view feces as disgusting? "

Oh, I also questioned someones post who claimed a certain percentage of scientists believed in God and posted something factual that disputed the persons claim. Total of 6 posts out of what almost 5000 and all but 2 were just bored joking around, mostly talking smack about monkeys.

Yep that's me. A regular psychotic Taliban trying to impose my beliefs on everyone else.

Would you like some ketchup on that foot?

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" Did you know humans are the only species on this planet who view feces as disgusting? "

And your Ultra Right wing compatriots in Washington are EXPERTS in FECES

You seem to be good at compartmentalizing your support..but you can not hide from your rabid support for your leader..... so therefore you are part of the problem.

I have very strong religious beliefs.. I think those beliefs need to be someplace OTHER than my government. Last time I read the constitution...... I think that is what it said as well.

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" Did you know humans are the only species on this planet who view feces as disgusting? "

And your Ultra Right wing compatriots in Washington are EXPERTS in FECES

You seem to be good at compartmentalizing your support..but you can not hide from your rabid support for your leader..... so therefore you are part of the problem.
I have very strong religious beliefs.. I think those beliefs need to stay in someplace OTHER than my government.

Oh, now that I've proven you are just spewing BS about me, I'm compartmentalizing.

I like you. You make me laugh. heh, heh...

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I thought you were

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Hell I dont have to spew any BS about you.. you do it by your own posts. What can I say... your ability to rationalize your support for a nut job that wants to alienate the entire world is just amazing. You need to get out more.. make a jump or two... relieve some of that delusional support for der Bu$h.

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Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred

Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong.

Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid.

I love this. You don't know anything about me other than what I post. Then you imply that I am things that I never posted to, to as your proof and you do it with insults jabs and placing lables. You want to see pure arrogance? Look in the mirior. Why, because anyone that doesn't follow your beliefs has is something evil (I guess)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Personal shot.....I knew that was coming.

I fully understand that those that don't agree with you are blind, stuid or un-educated , or all the above.

Live happy on your cloud.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Are you so blinded by all the hypocrisy you support on a daily basis...


Now THERE is a pot kettle statement if I have ever seen one!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony

And Bush is a convicted criminal, convicted in a court of law. That doesn't seem to stop any adoration for him from you.

Personally I think driving drunk is a bit more serious than lieing about a blowjob. But hey, we all have our priorities....you like to fight against blowjobs, I like to fight against drunk driving....

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I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most.

Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat.

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So you missed the thread about Christian and proud and all the responses?

Actually, I only read a few pages of that thread because it wasn't very interesting to me. You seen to forget that an equal number of Democrats are religious. To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

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I'm agnistic, but am tollerant of others beliefs so long as they don't cram it down throats. My experiences are that it is usually, almost exclusive that the right wingers do the cramming of religion. I think this is supported in legislation. Please show me examples where lefters legislate their morality in 'cramming it down our throats' fashion. I'm sure you can find remote examples, and I would be critical of those people, but generally we can see the righties doing it daily.

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To preach ones religious beliefs (shoving it down my throat) while at the same time bashing others who do the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

IRONY meter PEGGED at 10.0

When doing a search you posted several times in the Christian and proud of it thread. OH that was an OVERSIGHT on your part.. just like your boss

Ooooops!!! Well, he skim posted .

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Are you so blinded by all the hypocrisy you support on a daily basis...

Face it your boss is trying to form a theocracy out of our government.. the separation of church and state is so laughable now that it makes a mockery of our constitution... the founding fathers are spinning in their graves in disgust.... Talk about your foot in your mouth....is there ANYTHING in the republican neo-con platform that you do not rubber stamp with your total support?

You are a supporter of the President as godhead.... he can do no wrong in your eyes... but you are not alone.. you are part of that diehard 30% that are true believers in Bu$h and Co. Your culture of corruption is taking on new and more sinister levels every year. Just what WILL you do to maintain power...I think the election surprises are coming..

Shrub actually BELIEVES he is the only one who has the resolve to stand up and take his war of conquest to others in the Axis of Evil...how many more Americans will need to die for his religious visions.

Just remember you guys are the ones who are supposedly the party of smaller government...Uh huh right

Just remember you guys are the party of less government spending.. yeah right....( spend less on the American People.. spend more on WAR and other things you deem important for your buddies to make BILLIONS on.)

Just remember you are the ones who wrapped yourselves in the American Flag and claimed all others who do not follow your hypocritical version of patriotism are unpatriotic. Perhaps if more of you had acually served our country you would not have been in such a rush to go to war for arrogance and greed and a whole lot of your countrymen would still be alive. I guess its really cool when you can be patriotic with other peoples blood rather than your own.

Just remember you are the guys who were supposed to be moral... yet here we are with a bunch of you on your way to jail for corruption and abuse of power.

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I think the election surprises are coming..

Absolutley. Then the Dems will attempt to fix the problem and get some result - it's down the drain now that it might be impossible - Bush will have doubled the national debt - 5.5T to 11T by Jan 09.

Clinton turned a several hundred billion $ annual deficit into a 230 billion $ annual surplus, then Bush turned that into a 500+ billion $ deficit in I think a year or two..... now they're excited that it might be below 400 billion per year.

Then, if the Dems fix the problem, to whatever degree they can, the public will focus on peripheral, meaningless issues and go after them, then dethrown the Dems..... sad.....

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Just remember you guys are the ones who are supposedly the party of smaller government...Uh huh right

As crazy as it sounds, they are. They are throwing the government into such debt that the US gov will be subordinate to corporate America, hence the US gov is and will be smaller than it was before they took office. It's been going since Reagan. Reagan, Bush, Bush are responsible for 60% of the national debt.

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Just remember you are the ones who wrapped yourselves in the American Flag and claimed all others who do not follow your hypocritical version of patriotism are unpatriotic. Perhaps if more of you had acually served our country you would not have been in such a rush to go to war for arrogance and greed and a whole lot of your countrymen would still be alive. I guess its really cool when you can be patriotic with other peoples blood rather than your own.

Bingo! And someone just called me hypocritical! I wonder if he served, cause I sure did and I'm a Dem that is disgusted with the war and Republican Military Industrial War Complex. The lion's share of patriotic Repubs are non-vets, versus the not-so-patriotic Dems (joke).

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Just remember you are the guys who were supposed to be moral... yet here we are with a bunch of you on your way to jail for corruption and abuse of power.

Anither great point. And this is where the Repubs claim there is a Democratic conspiracy, which, even if true, is ridiculous since there was that little impeachment thing over a BJ and subsequent lie.

The Repubs have made thier bed, they just don't like laying on it.....

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Personal shot.....I knew that was coming.

I fully understand that those that don't agree with you are blind, stuid or un-educated , or all the above.

Live happy on your cloud.....

Now you're a victim? What statement did I make where you feel attacked. Instead of posting how you're such a victim, post the statement I made by prompting, QUOTE instead of, REPLY.

I have no idea as to what you are talking about since you didn't quote it, but you've just ducked another post I spent a fair amount of time constructing..... no surprise....