rushmc 23 #101 April 11, 2006 many of the premises are completely misleading. The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' because they have the legal power to declassify information and "RELEASE" it. There is only a problem with that act if it harms national securtiy to do so. Since nearly all of the information Scooter speaks to was already in the public domain then it is highly unlikely that any of the infomaiton "RELEASED" harmed national securtiy. Bush did the same thing Clinton did to back up his assurtion that the aprin factory was a legitimate target. He "RELEASED" classified information. Ahhhhh, GWB getw away again"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #102 April 11, 2006 >The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #103 April 11, 2006 QuoteAs I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) They will NEVER get Bush or Cheney under OATH for anything.. THey are both accomplished liears and know better.. because there is too much of a papertrail of what they have claimed to be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #104 April 11, 2006 Quote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. QuoteThis whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. How do you figure he's saying the President is above the law? The President has the "LEGAL" right to declassify intel. In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. I hardly see that as a threat to National Security. Certainly not on the level of transfering missile technology to China. But spin it any way you want. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #105 April 11, 2006 QuoteThe President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' because... Maybe. Does a president declassify secrets simply by saying them? Or is there a process? (For those rare readers among us who know what hypotheticals are for, imagine a Russian spy who managed to become president then told the Russian premier our missile de-activation codes so we'd be defenseless. Is there an impeachment case against him or not? Regardless, if this president were a republican then rushmc would come online to scream "President Ivanovich can't be impeached. Presidents are allowed to give away our missile codes!" If the president were a democrat he'd take the opposite position of course.) If there's a stipulated process and Bush did not follow it, then it's criminal leaking of secrets. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #106 April 11, 2006 >In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. Just as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? >Certainly not on the level of transfering missile technology to China. Perfectly legal in your view of things. After all, he's the President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #107 April 11, 2006 Quote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #108 April 11, 2006 Quote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political (because the left hates him ) bull shit. You sure can twist a post around "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #109 April 11, 2006 >Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #110 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - there are now more reports and information from the released tapes and documents stateing SH was trying to by yellow cake. And, even the 911 commission stated that Wilsons own evidence disputed his (wilsons) claims he made. Hate does a funny thing to the mind.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #111 April 11, 2006 > . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #112 April 11, 2006 QuoteHate does a funny thing to the mind.......... OH now we know why you guys CONSTANTLY bring up Clinton.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #113 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - British intel - hmmm. Ever hear of: Klaus Fuchs Guy Burgess Donald McLean Kim Philby Anthony Blunt... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #114 April 11, 2006 Quote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #115 April 11, 2006 Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #116 April 11, 2006 QuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #117 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. You sure can twist a post around Quotethey started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do . Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House. The only other pres to be impeached was Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP turned pres after Lincoln's assassination. He was impeached for usurpation of power - many counts. It was in teh midst of the Civil War, obviously, and he basically ignored Congress by usurping their power. He wasn't removed. I think Nixon would have been removed if he had stayed in office. I think you see Democratic corruption vs Republican corruption. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. Not from you, but from Bush's actions. I can't believe there is one person around that thinks Bush follows the laws and rules of his office. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. What is this world comming to: A president held to political standards!!! Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions. Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #118 April 12, 2006 Quote>Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. JUST IN: The president has declared it the weekend on Tuesday, cause he loves the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #119 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts! Quote...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was. Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it. Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic. QuoteFace it, the left has got nothin here. Not that you're guilty of anything, but by supporting him with that defense it sounds as tho he's guilty, just that you feel it can't be proven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #120 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Actually he had an affirmative defense: Bush: I have no intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #121 April 12, 2006 Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from. As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them. Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today..... Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #122 April 12, 2006 Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #123 April 12, 2006 QuoteDo you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong. Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #124 April 12, 2006 I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most. Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #125 April 12, 2006 But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Things that make you go HMMMMMM Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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narcimund 0 #105 April 11, 2006 QuoteThe President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' because... Maybe. Does a president declassify secrets simply by saying them? Or is there a process? (For those rare readers among us who know what hypotheticals are for, imagine a Russian spy who managed to become president then told the Russian premier our missile de-activation codes so we'd be defenseless. Is there an impeachment case against him or not? Regardless, if this president were a republican then rushmc would come online to scream "President Ivanovich can't be impeached. Presidents are allowed to give away our missile codes!" If the president were a democrat he'd take the opposite position of course.) If there's a stipulated process and Bush did not follow it, then it's criminal leaking of secrets. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #106 April 11, 2006 >In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. Just as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? >Certainly not on the level of transfering missile technology to China. Perfectly legal in your view of things. After all, he's the President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #107 April 11, 2006 Quote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #108 April 11, 2006 Quote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political (because the left hates him ) bull shit. You sure can twist a post around "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #109 April 11, 2006 >Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #110 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - there are now more reports and information from the released tapes and documents stateing SH was trying to by yellow cake. And, even the 911 commission stated that Wilsons own evidence disputed his (wilsons) claims he made. Hate does a funny thing to the mind.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #111 April 11, 2006 > . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #112 April 11, 2006 QuoteHate does a funny thing to the mind.......... OH now we know why you guys CONSTANTLY bring up Clinton.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #113 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - British intel - hmmm. Ever hear of: Klaus Fuchs Guy Burgess Donald McLean Kim Philby Anthony Blunt... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #114 April 11, 2006 Quote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #115 April 11, 2006 Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #116 April 11, 2006 QuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #117 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. You sure can twist a post around Quotethey started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do . Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House. The only other pres to be impeached was Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP turned pres after Lincoln's assassination. He was impeached for usurpation of power - many counts. It was in teh midst of the Civil War, obviously, and he basically ignored Congress by usurping their power. He wasn't removed. I think Nixon would have been removed if he had stayed in office. I think you see Democratic corruption vs Republican corruption. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. Not from you, but from Bush's actions. I can't believe there is one person around that thinks Bush follows the laws and rules of his office. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. What is this world comming to: A president held to political standards!!! Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions. Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #118 April 12, 2006 Quote>Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. JUST IN: The president has declared it the weekend on Tuesday, cause he loves the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #119 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts! Quote...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was. Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it. Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic. QuoteFace it, the left has got nothin here. Not that you're guilty of anything, but by supporting him with that defense it sounds as tho he's guilty, just that you feel it can't be proven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #120 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Actually he had an affirmative defense: Bush: I have no intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #121 April 12, 2006 Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from. As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them. Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today..... Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #122 April 12, 2006 Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #123 April 12, 2006 QuoteDo you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong. Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #124 April 12, 2006 I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most. Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #125 April 12, 2006 But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Things that make you go HMMMMMM Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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rushmc 23 #108 April 11, 2006 Quote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political (because the left hates him ) bull shit. You sure can twist a post around "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #109 April 11, 2006 >Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #110 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - there are now more reports and information from the released tapes and documents stateing SH was trying to by yellow cake. And, even the 911 commission stated that Wilsons own evidence disputed his (wilsons) claims he made. Hate does a funny thing to the mind.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #111 April 11, 2006 > . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #112 April 11, 2006 QuoteHate does a funny thing to the mind.......... OH now we know why you guys CONSTANTLY bring up Clinton.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #113 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - British intel - hmmm. Ever hear of: Klaus Fuchs Guy Burgess Donald McLean Kim Philby Anthony Blunt... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #114 April 11, 2006 Quote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #115 April 11, 2006 Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #116 April 11, 2006 QuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #117 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. You sure can twist a post around Quotethey started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do . Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House. The only other pres to be impeached was Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP turned pres after Lincoln's assassination. He was impeached for usurpation of power - many counts. It was in teh midst of the Civil War, obviously, and he basically ignored Congress by usurping their power. He wasn't removed. I think Nixon would have been removed if he had stayed in office. I think you see Democratic corruption vs Republican corruption. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. Not from you, but from Bush's actions. I can't believe there is one person around that thinks Bush follows the laws and rules of his office. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. What is this world comming to: A president held to political standards!!! Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions. Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #118 April 12, 2006 Quote>Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. JUST IN: The president has declared it the weekend on Tuesday, cause he loves the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #119 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts! Quote...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was. Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it. Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic. QuoteFace it, the left has got nothin here. Not that you're guilty of anything, but by supporting him with that defense it sounds as tho he's guilty, just that you feel it can't be proven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #120 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Actually he had an affirmative defense: Bush: I have no intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #121 April 12, 2006 Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from. As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them. Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today..... Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #122 April 12, 2006 Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #123 April 12, 2006 QuoteDo you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong. Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #124 April 12, 2006 I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most. Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #125 April 12, 2006 But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Things that make you go HMMMMMM Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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billvon 3,132 #111 April 11, 2006 > . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #112 April 11, 2006 QuoteHate does a funny thing to the mind.......... OH now we know why you guys CONSTANTLY bring up Clinton.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #113 April 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>In this case it was intel that proved Joe Wilson was lying. QuoteJust as later intel proved Bush was lying about the uranium? Are you saying British intel did not sat Iraq had "sought" to purchase yellowcake Uranium for Niger? Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? - British intel - hmmm. Ever hear of: Klaus Fuchs Guy Burgess Donald McLean Kim Philby Anthony Blunt... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #114 April 11, 2006 Quote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #115 April 11, 2006 Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sebazz1 2 #116 April 11, 2006 QuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #117 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. You sure can twist a post around Quotethey started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do . Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House. The only other pres to be impeached was Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP turned pres after Lincoln's assassination. He was impeached for usurpation of power - many counts. It was in teh midst of the Civil War, obviously, and he basically ignored Congress by usurping their power. He wasn't removed. I think Nixon would have been removed if he had stayed in office. I think you see Democratic corruption vs Republican corruption. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. Not from you, but from Bush's actions. I can't believe there is one person around that thinks Bush follows the laws and rules of his office. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. What is this world comming to: A president held to political standards!!! Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions. Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #118 April 12, 2006 Quote>Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. JUST IN: The president has declared it the weekend on Tuesday, cause he loves the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #119 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts! Quote...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was. Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it. Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic. QuoteFace it, the left has got nothin here. Not that you're guilty of anything, but by supporting him with that defense it sounds as tho he's guilty, just that you feel it can't be proven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #120 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Actually he had an affirmative defense: Bush: I have no intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #121 April 12, 2006 Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from. As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them. Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today..... Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #122 April 12, 2006 Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #123 April 12, 2006 QuoteDo you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong. Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #124 April 12, 2006 I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most. Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #125 April 12, 2006 But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Things that make you go HMMMMMM Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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rushmc 23 #114 April 11, 2006 Quote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #115 April 11, 2006 Do you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #116 April 11, 2006 QuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #117 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote>The President can not, by definition, "LEAK' or authorize a "LEAK' > because they have the legal power to declassify information > and "RELEASE" it. This whole "the president is above the law" thing is getting pretty old. Very few people (outside of diehard Bush supporters) buy it. He's not a king; he's an elected civil servant. >Bush did the same thing Clinton . . . . CDIF, right on cue! As I recall, impeachment proceedings were started against Clinton for a lesser offense. Best not use the CDIF defense too much, or people will start thinking about how else the two presidencies are the same (and how they can be handled the same way.) they started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. You sure can twist a post around Quotethey started against clinton because he is a pig when is comes to women. Actually he's the 2nd favorite to women, behind JFK. I think you mean you view him as a pig for the way he is to women. OK, so don't date him, but many women would.... and prolly do . Furthermore, the Repubs went after Clinton for being Clinton, not for some silly BJ and subsequent lie. They would have impeached him for whatever, once they had a majority in congress for a bit. It was pathetic and the Repubs opened a door that they will be walking thr very soon if Congress turns Democratic, or at least the House. The only other pres to be impeached was Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP turned pres after Lincoln's assassination. He was impeached for usurpation of power - many counts. It was in teh midst of the Civil War, obviously, and he basically ignored Congress by usurping their power. He wasn't removed. I think Nixon would have been removed if he had stayed in office. I think you see Democratic corruption vs Republican corruption. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. Not from you, but from Bush's actions. I can't believe there is one person around that thinks Bush follows the laws and rules of his office. QuoteAnd where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never said that. What is this world comming to: A president held to political standards!!! Uh, impeachment is a political process, just as censure and all other actions. Do you think the Clinton impeachment was criminal? Is it a crime that is enforced to commit adultery? They call it, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors," but in a political sense. Kind of like when a corporation kills people; it's a civil infraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #118 April 12, 2006 Quote>Did you know British intel still stands by that claim even today? Did you know that the CIA warned the White House not to make that claim because they knew it wasn't true, and that they warned them months before his speech? Did you know that the White House has admitted they were wrong? Ach, I have forgotten that the president has the legal authority to alter the truth when it is politically expedient to do so. JUST IN: The president has declared it the weekend on Tuesday, cause he loves the weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #119 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuote> . . . because he is a pig when is comes to women. Aaaand - he spins the wheel and it stops on "Clinton is a pig!" Join us next week, when Rushmc will spin the wheel again and claim "it's not because of his morals - what part of 'he lied under oath' don't you understand?" Let me know when you flip again. >And where do you the get president is above the law BS?? I never > said that. My implication is the attacks and charges are pure political > (because the left hates him ) bull shit. So is it your claim that since the right has attacked him as well, they hate him too, and are engaging in pure political bullshit? It's not working any more. When Arlen Specter, a leading republican, starts talking about impeachment, your claims of partisan attacks become completely non-credible. You are becoming the master of putting words in someones mouth. You are taking what I am posting and turning it into something I am not even implying ...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. Hell, even my comment about Clinton you twisted clear out of context. Face it, the left has got nothin here. But I recognize the left responds to the charge, not the facts! Quote...and Specter? a good example of a RINO. He never should have been left in his position so you missed hitting any point there. OK, so Bush f'd up and left him there, so what? He is in his position, just like Brown of FEMA and now "IT IS WHAT IT IS," regardless of what some wish it was. Clinton should have shoved it down Monica's throat to ensure no leakage, or,.... pulled out a dirty sock and emptied it there and no one would know the diffffff........ coulda - shoulda - ISN'T; Specter is there and making his assertions, just as Clarence Thomas did. Bush ran him out and placed his clone there, but Specter is there and Bush can't do shit but face the same music Clinton did..... Clinton's gotta be loving it. Factoid: Clinton had a 50% approval rating after impeachment..... what is Bush's before? Maybe 35% or so? Pathetic. QuoteFace it, the left has got nothin here. Not that you're guilty of anything, but by supporting him with that defense it sounds as tho he's guilty, just that you feel it can't be proven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #120 April 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush approved intelligence leak Intelligence leaking from from George Bush? That's not new news... Actually he had an affirmative defense: Bush: I have no intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #121 April 12, 2006 Just saying that you can't believe that everyone can not think that Bush breaks all laws makes you someone that can not talk about the issues. It is very telling where you must get ALL your news from. As for Clinton, HE DID NOT GET IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BJ. Just stating that shows you do not know the facts or you choose to ignore them. Do I think Clinton was a criminal? Hell yes, he addmittied to it. Last time I knew lieing under oath (FOR A SEXUAL HARRASSMENT SUIT) is called purgurey and is a felony And by the way, what would the media do to any Rebublican that would have gotten into the same situation? THEY would have piled on just like they do to Bush today..... Bush has broken no laws that we know of. The charges run wild but with no fact to back them up they wither and die, (just like the once great Dem party in doing)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #122 April 12, 2006 Do you try to see the context of a point or do you just see the snippets "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #123 April 12, 2006 QuoteDo you ever post anything without an insult, jab or dripping hatred Conversly I ask the same thing of you... but I do not feel hatred for those of you on the right. You constantly SPOUT that anything that does not agree with your goosestepping to the Bu$h Drum as hatred. I will let GOD sort you out for your use of war, hatred, and all of your other sins that are making this world so much less than what it could be. Perhaps you would want to look inside to see that all that the religeous right support might actually be the religious wrong. Seriously.. perhaps the line from the bible "YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR DEEDS" might just resonate with some of you on the religious right. Unless you reaally are the ones who are completely stuck on hatred...war....greed...arrogance.. which truely is being stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #124 April 12, 2006 I don't see many on the right invoking religion on this site. In fact I see you invoking it a whole lot more than most. Please stop trying to ram your religion down my throat. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #125 April 12, 2006 But isnt it you Ultra Righties who are ramming your OWN brand of GOD and COUNTRY down all of our throats.... You are the ones supporting WAR... and the GREED of your administration and the ARROGANCE of your administration... and invoking GOD in this CRUSADE against the EVILDOERS....Face it.. your BASE is the religious right.... or were you just PANDERING to them for political purposes.... and BEARING FALSE WITNESS. Things that make you go HMMMMMM Doesnt that amount of hypocrisy bother you on ANY level there Karl????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
