cumplidor 0 #1 March 31, 2006 I post this with the hopes that folks will investigate this for themselves, and get involved if they feel the need. Aspartame/Nutrasweet is currently in 5000 foods and medications. There are many issues regarding its widespread use and some studies suggest its use may be related to some cancers, brain lesions and tumors, migranes, obesity, among others. Reading the Wikipedia definition of Aspartame in the 'Health Risks Controversy' section, it states QuoteThe FDA receives more complaints related to aspartame than any other food additive. Concerns about aspartame frequently revolve around symptoms and health conditions that are allegedly caused by the sweetener. If we examine the history of it and the company that discovered it (GD Searle & Co), there would seem to be some very odd coincidences.. 1. Aspartame was discovered in 1965, but the FDA would not approve it initially, because of questions surrounding cancers in the animals. 2. Donald Rumsfield served as CEO of GD Searle & Co from 1977-1981. (Rumsfield was well connected in Washington long before 1977) 3. On January 25, 1981, (the day president Reagan took office), the previous FDA commissioner's authority was suspended, and the next month, the commissioner's job went to Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes, a medical doctor and pharmacist. 4. In July 1981, Hayes, defying FDA advisors, approved aspartame for dry foods 5. In 1983 Hayes, under fire for accepting corporate gifts, left the agency and went to work for Searle's public-relations firm as a senior medical advisor. 6. In 1983 FDA further approved aspartame for use in carbonated beverages 7. Scientists agree that approximately 10% of aspartame (by mass) is broken down into methanol in the small intestine, which is then quickly converted into formaldehyde. 8. Recent results of a large seven year study in Italy found evidence that Aspartame causes leukeima and lymphoma in rats. 9. The top EU manufacturer of asparatame is quitting. 10. in 1991 they banned the 100% natural sweetner Stevia. FDA said it was an unsafe food additive... (they have since reversed this stance, but still wont allow it to be added to foods) Now I don't know about you folks, but this looks terribly suspicious to me. Looks like a classic good old boy system if you ask me... comments??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 March 31, 2006 ACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax By Alicia Lukachko, M.P.H. Posted: Thursday, January 28, 1999 EDITORIAL Publication Date: January 28, 1999 Health scare artists have found a whole new medium for terrorizing the public - the Internet. Individuals in search of accurate health information may literally become caught in the Web, where health hoaxes and urban medical myths run rampant. The health scare messages are always the same - whatever it is, it will make you sick. Internet health scares have unique and complicating characteristics that make them difficult to counter. Many of these health scares are spread wildly by email, and an email forwarded from a concerned friend certainly adds credibility to a hoax. Then there's the question of accountability: Once the scare is out, who should be held responsible? The scare's originator has suddenly multiplied into the hundreds who have shared it. And how does one correct this misinformation? There's no place for retraction, no letters to the editor. And even if there was a place to set the record straight, how many people are going to pass the word that such and such product actually "won't make you sick." The American Council on Science and Health (ACSH) is now receiving daily inquiries regarding one such health hoax about aspartame (see below).The hoax links the sweetener to multiple sclerosis-like symptoms and systemic lupus using quasi-medical jargon. Like most of its kind, this Web scare appears to be credible, pointing to impressive-sounding names like the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation, the "World Environmental Conference" and the mysterious "Dr. Espisto." Also like its compadres, this article is packed with misinformation that could frighten those, such as diabetics, who rely on aspartame. In fact, aspartame, known as "NutraSweet" and "Equal," is safe. Aspartame is one of the most thoroughly tested substances in the U.S. food supply. Numerous authorities, including the Food and Drug Administration, the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives of the FAO/WHO, the European Community, and the American Medical Association have concluded that aspartame is a safe product, except in the rare cases of phenylketonuria. For more information on aspartame, please refer to ACSH's peer-reviewed booklet Low Calorie Sweeteners. And beware of Internet health hoaxes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #3 March 31, 2006 QuoteACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax I have no opinion on the question at hand, but I'd bet a month's investment income that if the president mentioned in the original post were Clinton instead of Reagan, then "GravityMaster" would have found supporting innuendo instead of argumentative innuendo. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 March 31, 2006 QuoteQuoteACSH Debunks Internet Health Hoax I have no opinion on the question at hand, but I'd bet a month's investment income that if the president mentioned in the original post were Clinton instead of Reagan, then "GravityMaster" would have found supporting innuendo instead of argumentative innuendo. No, you never do have an opinion on the question at hand. All you do is bore us with your whiney, pissy, bitchy, small minded personal attacks. I cannot fathom what the depth of your neurotic, insecure double digit IQ will find to cry about next. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #5 March 31, 2006 > your neurotic, insecure double digit IQ . . . Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 March 31, 2006 Quote Your one warning. Shouldn't that apply to both of them. One was just a little more indirect than the other. Back on subject - screw nutrasweet, Splenda seems to have it beat on taste, and you can bake with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #7 March 31, 2006 Quote> your neurotic, insecure double digit IQ . . . Your one warning. Err... Bill? Since I proved in a previous post that he's a Crypto-Francophile-Fromage-Mangeant-Singe-D'Reddition, wouldn't: IHRE ERSTES UND NUR WARNUNG, FROSCHFRESSER! Be more likely to ensure compliance? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #8 March 31, 2006 Quotescrew nutrasweet, Splenda seems to have it beat on taste, and you can bake with it FYI- Splenda is the resultant chemical reaction made from mixing chlorine and sugar. I guess there is not enough profit in natural products... or not enough sick people... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #9 March 31, 2006 table salt is the resultant product from reacting poisonous chlorine gas and explosive sodium metal. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #10 March 31, 2006 Quote you never do have an opinion on the question at hand. Just to note, you didn't have an opinion either. You simply posted the snopes.com (or wherever that came from) reply to the email that was circulated a few years back. Are we to assume that is your opinion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #11 March 31, 2006 Quote table salt is the resultant reaction from mixing poisonous chlorine gas and explosive sodium metal. Whoa, I didn't know that. Must be why I eat sea salt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 March 31, 2006 QuoteQuote you never do have an opinion on the question at hand. Just to note, you didn't have an opinion either. You simply posted the snopes.com (or wherever that came from) reply to the email that was circulated a few years back. Are we to assume that is your opinion? Since what we do here (at least some of us) is debate both sides of an issue I thought it was important to present another side. What you presented contains basically an accusation that there was some political component to the initial approval and continued legality of aspartame, I thought it was important to present evidence that the medical commmunity as a whole rejects your claim. And yes, I will believe a scientific analysis over what comes from some pretty politically biased internet website. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 March 31, 2006 Something's gonna kill me. Diet Coke is way down on the list of things I'm worried about. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #14 March 31, 2006 Aspartame tastes nasty. I don't eat it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #15 March 31, 2006 Here is a number of letters and articles written by two pioneering Doctors (Dr. Martini and Dr. Blaylock) who have been trying to get the FDA to recall Aspartame for sometime. http://www.wnho.net/aspartamenews.htm And yes, it sure does seem that there were political favors involved, do you disagree??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #16 March 31, 2006 I don't know. I wouldn't trust a websiste who tries to make itself look like a real world organization and steal some thunder from real organizations like the the WHO. their main guy, or the original website owner, has nothing but made up degrees from degree mills, some of their "doctors" do not have recognized degrees. Or they are self certified. Their one real MD was told not to practice becasue she was suffering from parania and other psychological disorders. Definitely not a good site to use for support._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #17 March 31, 2006 >Shouldn't that apply to both of them. Nope. Assuming someone will present a certain argument is not a personal attack. Talking about someone's "neurotic, insecure double digit IQ" is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 March 31, 2006 QuoteHere is a number of letters and articles written by two pioneering Doctors (Dr. Martini and Dr. Blaylock) who have been trying to get the FDA to recall Aspartame for sometime. http://www.wnho.net/aspartamenews.htm And yes, it sure does seem that there were political favors involved, do you disagree??? I don't know whether there was anymore of a political component to this than there is to many other Govt/Drug Co. relationship. Whether there was some conspiracy (which seems to foster in many of your posts) is another issue. Do I believe Rumsfeld and the drug companies conspired to kill and maim Americans knowingly? Nope I don't. I also don't believe there was a conspiracy to put Thalimide on the market in the 1950's. I will admit I plan on doing a little more research into the potential side effects of Apartame which I avoid anyway because I hate the taste of artificial sweeteners. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 March 31, 2006 Quote>Shouldn't that apply to both of them. Nope. Assuming someone will present a certain argument is not a personal attack. Talking about someone's "neurotic, insecure double digit IQ" is. I agree with you, Bill. It was a blatant personal attack on my part, I meant it to be, and I told you several days ago it was going to happen. Thank-you for not banning me. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #20 March 31, 2006 Safe or not, there's plenty of evidence that it's an addictive stimulant. Ever seen an aspartame junkie deprived of their daily diet pepsi? It's scary. Way worse than caffeine addiction (to which I happy subscribe). My friends who have tried to quit smoking have all been able to do so eventually. No one I know has been able to give up aspartame completely once they were hooked on it. And yes, I agree it tastes HORRIBLE. My main complaint is that it's getting harder and harder to avoid it, since they seem obsessed with sticking it in every imaginable food product. It must be cheaper than sugar in addition to being good marketing fodder for pudgy americans.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #21 March 31, 2006 QuoteI meant it to be, and I told you several days ago it was going to happen. Wow. People are preplanning their insults? That's remarkable. I feel so important. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #22 March 31, 2006 wow double digit IQ, I wish I could get that high!! Does that count as a PA on myself?Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #23 March 31, 2006 Besides, Nutrasweet must cause obesity. Ever see skinny people drink a diet cola? (removes tongue from cheek) steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #24 March 31, 2006 You know, people who worry excessively actually have a higher risk of cancer. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygurl 0 #25 March 31, 2006 I don't know if it still does, but I remember not too long ago that the statement: "This product has been known to cause cancer in lab animals" or something to that effect used to be printed in green lettering on the pink packets. I don't use any of that stuff. I'm for good old fashioned sugar. In moderation, of course. ________________________________________ "One out of every four American's are suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
