ABC Reported This Information On Thursday

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and they added some interesting "editors notes"

so you can go to ABC and see this too.

This is NewsMax take on the tapes.......

New Saddam Docs Hint at 9/11 Link


Captured Iraqi intelligence documents ordered released last week by President Bush hint at a link between Saddam Hussein's regime and the 9/11 attacks.

The most intriguing document, dated four days after the 9/11 attacks, is titled "Osama bin Laden and the Taliban."

According to an ABC News translation, an Afghani informant told Saddam's Mukhabarrat intelligence service that Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:

That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.

That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.

That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.

That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.
ABC considered the document so potentially explosive that it issued the following disclaimer in it's own report:

"The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable -- i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan 'consul.' The date of the document -- four days after 9/11 -- is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value."

While the 9/11 Commission insisted that any relationship between Saddam and al Qaeda was not "operational," others aren't so sure.

In May 2003, U.S. District Judge Harold Baer - a Carter appointee - awarded two 9/11 victim families $104 million based on their claim that Iraq played a material role in the attacks.

Evidence introduced at the trial included testimony from former CIA director James Woolsey, along with accounts from Iraqi defectors who claimed they were trained to hijack U.S. airliners at Saddam's terrorist training camp, Salman Pak.

Among those who believe that Iraq had a hand in 9/11: Saddam Hussein's replacement, former interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

Reacting to a document uncovered by the London Telegraph in Dec. 2003 detailing a link between the Mukhabarrat and lead hijacker Mohamed Atta, Allawi said: "We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda.

"This is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks," he added.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Gravitymaster 0]

Yep, I saw that too and started to post it but sometimes everyone gets really quiet when you burst through their bubble to often. Not surprising at all that they felt the need to make sure the brick wall they've built around their readers minds doesn't begin to crumble from the reality.

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[rushmc 23]

These documents can either make or break an agenda. I think the group most silent about these tape will scream the loudest about the truth!!


I was really surprised ABC reported on the tapes until I saw the "Editors Notes"

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[sundevil777 102]

Lots of time before November for more to be understood and elections to be affected.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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These documents can either make or break an agenda. I think the group most silent about these tape will scream the loudest about the truth!!


I was really surprised ABC reported on the tapes until I saw the "Editors Notes"

I can't ever remember reading an article on Fox that had every paragraph editorialized. In fact, I can't ever remember reading any article anywhere with this much editorializing. Don't expect too much more on this by the MSM. It will only be reported by sources that the lefties can refute as biased.

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[rushmc 23]

Along the same line as my last post.

My beleif was SH HAD WMD's at the time of the US attack but, reviewing the info really makes me wonder if that was true BUT, they also make me belive that SH made everyone believe he DID have WMD's. So, he played the game and lost?

More info to come but I think it validates all those saying he had WMD, including the Dems that were saying the same....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Duckwater 0]

I don't see what the big deal is about where terrorists come from. Timothy McVeigh came from Kansas....Did we invade Topeka after OK City?

There are millions of Saudis, Iraqis, Lebanese etc that would never bomb americans, why label a whole country for a messed up few? We do and thats why even the nice, sane Arabs hate us..

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Along the same line as my last post.

My beleif was SH HAD WMS at the time of the US attack but, reviewing the info really makes me wonder if that was true BUT, they also make me belive that SH made everyone believe he DID have WMD's. So, he played the game and lost?

More info to come but I think it validates all those saying he had WMD, including the Dems that were saying the same....

I really don't know. What I am sure of is that he would have reconstituted his bio and chem and nuke programs eventually. Probably soon after the sanctions were lifted.

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Along the same line as my last post.

My beleif was SH HAD WMS at the time of the US attack but, reviewing the info really makes me wonder if that was true BUT, they also make me belive that SH made everyone believe he DID have WMD's. So, he played the game and lost?

More info to come but I think it validates all those saying he had WMD, including the Dems that were saying the same....

I really don't know. What I am sure of is that he would have reconstituted his bio and chem and nuke programs eventually. Probably soon after the sanctions were lifted.

It would be hard to argue your point!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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We do and thats why even the nice, sane Arabs hate us..

They also hate us when our racist attitudes prevent them from conducting business in the U.S. Lots of backlash coming from that one including switching from Dollars to Euros.

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I don't see what the big deal is about where terrorists come from. Timothy McVeigh came from Kansas....Did we invade Topeka after OK City?

The government of Topeka didn't have knowledge of and sponsor his actions.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[Duckwater 0]

No shit. Dubai has embraced western culture and capitalism more than anyone could have ever believed. I can't wait to visit there.

Retarted Americans cant see that we would have the same shitty security regardless of who owns the ports.

The reprocussions for our ignorance. Emeriates, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world, is likely to buy airbus instead of Boeing. Billions more lost in our trade deficit due to ignorance.

If I visit, I will wear a shrt that says "Im an American. Im sorry the rest of my countrymen are stupid"

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No shit. Dubai has embraced western culture and capitalism more than anyone could have ever believed. I can't wait to visit there.

Retarted Americans cant see that we would have the same shitty security regardless of who owns the ports.

The reprocussions for our ignorance. Emeriates, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world, is likely to buy airbus instead of Boeing. Billions more lost in our trade deficit due to ignorance.

If I visit, I will wear a shrt that says "Im an American. Im sorry the rest of my countrymen are stupid"

Emotion and politcal gain are more important than common sense...........regardless of the party

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Duckwater 0]

Dubai would have more to lose from another terrorist attack than anyone. Shortly, their oil will run out and they will be 100% dependent on tourism. I would argue that our ports would be SAFER if they ran the company.

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No shit. Dubai has embraced western culture and capitalism more than anyone could have ever believed. I can't wait to visit there.

Retarted Americans cant see that we would have the same shitty security regardless of who owns the ports.

The reprocussions for our ignorance. Emeriates, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world, is likely to buy airbus instead of Boeing. Billions more lost in our trade deficit due to ignorance.

If I visit, I will wear a shrt that says "Im an American. Im sorry the rest of my countrymen are stupid"

Yep and they have been flying those planes into the US for many years without incident. Chalk up another win for the MSM.

[SpeedRacer 1]

INteresting that Bush may have been right on the UAE ports deal. Unfortunately the Bush administration was the one who tried to blur the line between Osama & Saddam. As if the war vs Iraq & the war on Al Quaeda were one and the same. Osama bin Hussein. Saddam bin Laden. What's the difference, they're all Bad Arabs.

So Bush shouldn't be so surprised when his fellow Republicans said, "We can't let the Democrats get to the right of us when it comes to port security" and voted against the UAE deal.

America was on the right side when we went up against Al Quaeda. When Bush tried to blend it with his own agenda re. Iraq, it fucked everything up. Even within his own party.

Speed Racer
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[tkhayes 348]

an Afgani snitch told someone in Iraq that a guy in Afghanistan told him......


well that sure sews it up for me - let's invade!!

If there was anything to this - Bush would be holding it up and waving it around given that he is 36% in the polls right now.

my guess it is worthabout the weight of the paper it was written on.

[Frenchy68 0]

As The Wolf would say: "Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet".

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[Gravitymaster 0]

Yep, everyhing wrong in the world is all Bush's fault. What a convenient icon to polarize your hate and racist attitudes. Pathetic........really!!