Duckwater 0 #1 March 19, 2006 I was riding the bus from remote parking at DFW yesterday. It was packed and standing room only when I got on. There was a black lady sitting behind the driver and she had her suitcase sitting in the seat next to her. There was an old (white) couple standing in front of her. The bus driver made 2 announcements asking people (her) to put their bags in the proper place so people could sit. She either ignored or didn't hear, because he never moved the bag. She could clearly see the old lady in front of her. Everyone around was rolling their eyes but nobody said anything. And, not one man got up to offer the old lady a seat. I bit my lip because I dont think I could have been very nice... Common courtesy is as dead as segregation it appears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #2 March 19, 2006 and you really think this is about race? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #3 March 19, 2006 No....I just found it ironic that a few decades ago everyone would have gone apeshit if she was in the front of the bus or didnt give up her seat for a white person. Now, even here luggage is worthy of a seat.. I do think the reason nobody pressed the issue was because of everyones hyper-sensitivity about race.... If I had my bag in the seat I bet someone would have said something... The big thing was how damn rude a lot of people are now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #4 March 19, 2006 QuoteThe big thing was how damn rude a lot of people are now Now that is true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #5 March 19, 2006 Everyone is afraid of having the race card played on them. I have a friend who is a flight attendant. She bypassed a black lady with the beverage cart because she was sleeping.....She woke up and saw that the cart had passed. She got all pissy and accused the FA of not serving her because she was black...This was 2 days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #6 March 19, 2006 That's an unfortunate event, however, I don't think the bus incident had anything to do with race. If you want to talk about racial issues the flight attendant story is a much better one. Is Al Sharpton your hero? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #7 March 19, 2006 Yeah...It was Ironic though.... What was racist is when I wore my turban and read my Koran on the plane and wore my "Praise Allah - Death to the Zionists!" t-shirt on the plane. Everyone looked at me funny....What a bunch of racists! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 March 19, 2006 QuoteThat's an unfortunate event, however, I don't think the bus incident had anything to do with race. If you want to talk about racial issues the flight attendant story is a much better one. Is Al Sharpton your hero? Funny you bring up Al Sharpton. I took one of those online tests the Liberals tout so much and it put me politically aligned with Sharpton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #9 March 19, 2006 I am pretty politically aligned with Montel Williams...He is sharper than most people think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #10 March 19, 2006 LOL to both of you. I'm just up waiting for SNL to come on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #11 March 19, 2006 QuoteI was riding the bus from remote parking at DFW yesterday. It was packed and standing room only when I got on. There was a black lady sitting behind the driver and she had her suitcase sitting in the seat next to her. There was an old (white) couple standing in front of her. The bus driver made 2 announcements asking people (her) to put their bags in the proper place so people could sit. She either ignored or didn't hear, because he never moved the bag. She could clearly see the old lady in front of her. Everyone around was rolling their eyes but nobody said anything. And, not one man got up to offer the old lady a seat. I bit my lip because I dont think I could have been very nice... Common courtesy is as dead as segregation it appears. If you don't want the circle to continue, break it. If you believe in what you say, why didn't you tap the lady on the shoulder, say excuse me and politely ask if she could move her bag so an old woman could sit down? Why leave it to the bus driver to attempt to deal with? Why roll your eyes and not say anything? By not saying anything you continue to allow an issue to propagate. When a young mother allowed her son to sit and bounce up and down while he sat on a chair on the bus literally right in front of a frail, old woman who had just got on at the front of the bus and was stood right in front of him, and who both the mother and son had seen (they looked at her as she was quite obviously very old) and chosen to ignore, i tapped the boy on the shoulder and asked him politely if he could stand so we could allow the old lady to sit. I thought if neither of them would acknowledge her, i had to make them more aware that i thought their behaviour was not acceptable. What happened? The mother asked the boy (who was at least 10 or 11) to simply stand, and he did so. The old woman gave me a look and smile that said more than a 1000 thank you's ever could have. The boy was fine standing right there with us, holding the rail, the mother smiled as the old woman thanked her for asking her son to stand and i thought atleast she can now sit. Next time, interject, politely, instead of just biting your lip. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #12 March 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteEveryone is afraid of having the race card played on them. I have a friend who is a flight attendant. She bypassed a black lady with the beverage cart because she was sleeping.....She woke up and saw that the cart had passed. She got all pissy and accused the FA of not serving her because she was black...This was 2 days ago Too true. I myself have been tempted to not enforce rules as stringently against minorities as white people. Like many people, I tend to want to avoid confrontations of that nature, and I do find people will make that acusation against you at the drop of a hat. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #13 March 19, 2006 Quote why didn't you tap the lady on the shoulder, say excuse me and politely ask if she could move her bag so an old woman could sit down? ..... The boy was fine standing right there with us, . Nice post. It's really that easy. The original poster thought he "couldn't speak up and be polite". What utter bullshit - why would one have to be moved to anger and outrage just to ask for a courtesy. And, that boy learned a great lesson and he was likely more that 'fine' standing there, he was likely feeling very grown up and proud. That exercise taught him a little bit about being responsible for others that need it. it didn't take the schools or government to do it, just a decent male role model, a polite request, and good feeling of doing something nice - he taght a little bit about being a man and a grown up. What do you think someone having a fit at him and his mother would have taught him????? Some people are oblivious, that doesn't make them evil and deserving of abuse, they just need to be woken up. Gently works well. That black woman would likely have smiled and moved her suitcase if someone asked her to her face. Until people just calmly do the right thing instead of waiting for their outrage to turn them into jerks, we won't get very far in this society. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
rehmwa 2 #13 March 19, 2006 Quote why didn't you tap the lady on the shoulder, say excuse me and politely ask if she could move her bag so an old woman could sit down? ..... The boy was fine standing right there with us, . Nice post. It's really that easy. The original poster thought he "couldn't speak up and be polite". What utter bullshit - why would one have to be moved to anger and outrage just to ask for a courtesy. And, that boy learned a great lesson and he was likely more that 'fine' standing there, he was likely feeling very grown up and proud. That exercise taught him a little bit about being responsible for others that need it. it didn't take the schools or government to do it, just a decent male role model, a polite request, and good feeling of doing something nice - he taght a little bit about being a man and a grown up. What do you think someone having a fit at him and his mother would have taught him????? Some people are oblivious, that doesn't make them evil and deserving of abuse, they just need to be woken up. Gently works well. That black woman would likely have smiled and moved her suitcase if someone asked her to her face. Until people just calmly do the right thing instead of waiting for their outrage to turn them into jerks, we won't get very far in this society. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
