Look right you were wrong!

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years after you won the war? hmmm why are people still dying? saddam is still alive? no WMD. the rich are richer. the poor are dead or poorer. 1000's are maimed, dead, dying, being shot at or sick.

Children are dead, infrastucture is broken or destroyed people are angry. where is the democracy? where are the FREEDOM FIGHTERS.


I got drilled for opposing GWB's decisions and calling him a murderer and a lier a couple of years ago. now this seems to be the trend.

THE MOTHERFUCKER IS LOOKING AFTER HIS 'OWN' POCKET CAN'T YOU SEE THAT FOOLS?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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Those folks have been fighting each other since before Christ. Does anyone really think, we can change them? Maybe, form a huge circle around them. Let them fight it out. Last one's standing... throw 'em in jail for being stupid! They don't 'really' want anyone pushing their ideas down their throats.
Damned few if, any.

Chuck

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the USA has only been around for 400 years and has had a good old stir of the pot!

if the usa would stay out of it. it will stop those fights affecting the rest of us. i agree let them go at it and mind our own business

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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the USA has only been around for 400 years and has had a good old stir of the pot!

if the usa would stay out of it. it will stop those fights affecting the rest of us. i agree let them go at it and mind our own business

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Which raises the age old question: 'Who, told the government of the United States that they were to be the 'world' police'? I think, a lot of times, we stick our nose in where doesn't belong. If, someone else asks for our help, that might be different. Usually, there's some other reason than 'world peace'. It usually amounts to someone gaining or prospering from some situation. I think too, if we'd put as much effort into taking care of ourselves and 'fixing' us first, we'd be too busy to stick our nose where it doesn't belong. We tend to get ourselves spread a bit thin, sometimes. We keep 'loaning' money to other countries and we don't see much return on our investment. We've got ourselves in such debt, it's un-real. That, usually means we pay higher taxes. as the American public, we get 'spoon-fed' propaganda and find ourselves supporting some pointless cause and the politicians who want us to believe it's 'good'. We've got a lot to do, right here in the good ol' US of A.


Chuck

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agreed.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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Another question I have is: Why, does the rest of the world have to be like 'us' (The U.S.A.)? Seems like, that's what we're trying to do.


Chuck

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I am not from or in the USA.

My opinion is that it is more of a capitalist state that the rest of the world are being drawn into. consuming more than is needed is a status sybol in itself. The usa is pretty full on when it comes to this sort of stuff but it is not the usa alone.

GWB has put USA on the pedestall in recent years and The USA rules the media so we see alot of the usa and its antics. the american dream is that of many. that is basicly an easy, cushy life with heaps of modcons. everybody in the west seems to want this weather they are in the us or not. the rest just want to make it through the day without being hungry.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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the smoke clears and the people sober up .... I slept with who? bush did what ? .... maybe we're starved for a good leader or a good show , and since we can't find the first we thank bush for the later ... but now it's boring and dangerous so what do we do with out that good leader ... motivation to be a first class society to be looked up to for our efficiency , creativity and acceptance ?

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people see me as a challenge to their balance

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I am not from or in the USA.

My opinion is that it is more of a capitalist state that the rest of the world are being drawn into. consuming more than is needed is a status sybol in itself. The usa is pretty full on when it comes to this sort of stuff but it is not the usa alone.

GWB has put USA on the pedestall in recent years and The USA rules the media so we see alot of the usa and its antics. the american dream is that of many. that is basicly an easy, cushy life with heaps of modcons. everybody in the west seems to want this weather they are in the us or not. the rest just want to make it through the day without being hungry.

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I saw where, you are from New Zealand. I think, you've pretty much summed it up! You left out... driven by greed. As for our news, I watch various sources but, have a hard time sorting the grain from the chaf. With all the 'spin-doctoring' and covering-up and flat-out propaganda, it's not easy. Then too, we aren't the only ones who have that 'situation'.


Chuck

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You both make good points.... the greed thing, I think, is the biggie...... It only generally only takes one person/state to start being greedy and others say - hey... they've taken more than they should so I better get my nose in the trough quick, or loose out.

It's like drivers on the roads.... if there is a traffic jam... some arse will push into the queue and others either follow or make the gaps smaller so that noone can 'cut-in' - thus causeing tension.


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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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...and all these lotteries we have! You talk about bringing-out the greed in folks! Everybody's gonna get rich quick. What really cracks me up is, on each lottery ticket, it's states on the back-side: "If, you feel you have a gambling problem... call this number and etc. I see folks that are rather obviously, poor, buying a quart of beer and a fist-full of lottery tickets. It's just gotten crazy. Sure, I buy some scratch-offs, now and again but, not every day or even every week. The lottery folks, are making a gambling problem.


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...and all these lotteries boogies we have! You talk about bringing-out the greed in folks! Everybody's gonna get rich to jump quick. What really cracks me up is, on each lottery jump ticket, it should state on the back-side: "If, you feel you have a gambling skydiving problem... call this number and etc. I see folks that are rather obviously, poor, buying a quart of beer and a fist-full of lottery jump tickets. It's just gotten crazy. Sure, I buy some scratch-offs, lift tickets now and again but, not every day or even every week. The lottery DZO folks, are making a gambling Skydiving problem.


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...and all these lotteries boogies we have! You talk about bringing-out the greed in folks! Everybody's gonna get rich to jump quick. What really cracks me up is, on each lottery jump ticket, it should state on the back-side: "If, you feel you have a gambling skydiving problem... call this number and etc. I see folks that are rather obviously, poor, buying a quart of beer and a fist-full of lottery jump tickets. It's just gotten crazy. Sure, I buy some scratch-offs, lift tickets now and again but, not every day or even every week. The lottery DZO folks, are making a gambling Skydiving problem.


Chuck

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Easy there, big guy! Though, you did a good job, re-working my post. I was getting too serious, anyhow!


Chuck

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...and all these lotteries boogies we have! You talk about bringing-out the greed in folks! Everybody's gonna get rich to jump quick. What really cracks me up is, on each lottery jump ticket, it should state on the back-side: "If, you feel you have a gambling skydiving problem... call this number and etc. I see folks that are rather obviously, poor, buying a quart of beer and a fist-full of lottery jump tickets. It's just gotten crazy. Sure, I buy some scratch-offs, lift tickets now and again but, not every day or even every week. The lottery DZO folks, are making a gambling Skydiving problem.

you are the master

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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the USA has only been around for 400 years and has had a good old stir of the pot!

You're excused... cuz yer not frum here...

But we've only been around since 1776. That's 230 years.

Oh, hello again!

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shit thats only 50 years longer than new zealand. not long

i thought you guys had at least 150 years on us. still very adolescent for a country eh.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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I'm anxiously awaiting the war against Iran.

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I'm anxiously awaiting the war against Iran

WTF

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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I'm anxiously awaiting the war against Iran

WTF

They are making a nuke so the US of A should invade before they get a chance to destroy the free world.

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shit thats only 50 years longer than new zealand. not long

i thought you guys had at least 150 years on us. still very adolescent for a country eh.

Technically you're wrong, but essentially you're right. The US came here in the late 1400's and started the killing of American Indians since, so there was a gradual transition that was memorialized with the Declaration of Independence.

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I'm anxiously awaiting the war against Iran

WTF

They are making a nuke so the US of A should invade before they get a chance to destroy the free world.

Republicans = War on _________________

a) Communism
b) Drugs
c) Terrorism
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The Commies were a joke, drugs have been here long before the English settlers and will be here long after. Terrorsim is manufactured by way of irritating others.

Get it, you can't stop these things, just prepare for them and deal with people with respect..... or do it the way of teh US.

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you can't stop these things, just prepare for them and deal with people with respect

How the hell are you going to prepare for a nuclear attack? Duck and cover??? http://www.archive.org/details/DuckandC1951

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you can't stop these things, just prepare for them and deal with people with respect

How the hell are you going to prepare for a nuclear attack? Duck and cover??? http://www.archive.org/details/DuckandC1951

Do what ya, want, just that trying to prevent ownership is pathetic planning.

Would you prohibit your kids from having drugs and think they'll never do em? Course not, you try ot educate them and hope they do the right thing.

Finally, when we bombed Hiroshima, we did so with the planning that we didn't conventionally bomb Hiroshima at all. We did this so we could see the actual deaths and damage to an unmollested, undisturbed city; is this responsible handling of an attomic weapon? Who says we are so responsible? Us.........

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I'm sorry to say but you are babbling off topic.

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Do what ya, want, just that trying to prevent ownership is pathetic planning.

Would you prohibit your kids from having drugs and think they'll never do em? Course not, you try ot educate them and hope they do the right thing.

Iran is not my son.

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Finally, when we bombed Hiroshima, we did so with the planning that we didn't conventionally bomb Hiroshima at all. We did this so we could see the actual deaths and damage to an unmollested, undisturbed city; is this responsible handling of an attomic weapon? Who says we are so responsible? Us.........

I never said the USA is responsible. The bombing of Japan is the most inhumane act of war (make that TERRORISM) in the history of man kind. That includes the Holocaust. But it has nothing to do with Iran now has it?

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>Iran is not my son.

Correct. In this analogy they are someone else's son - so you have even less say over what they do. If they want to do legal drugs, that's OK. If they want to own guns, that's OK too - until they try to use them on you to commit a crime, that is.