Gravitymaster 0 #101 March 30, 2006 Quote>Or he could have visited several different countries and taken lots >of pictures and simply made a mistake. Ach, of course, I forgot. He's a conservative, so anything of that sort is a regrettable, innocent mistake - even if it helps him make his point. But if, say, CBS makes a mistake on the authenticity of a document - they must be crucified immediately. Oh, so do we now have you on record as demanding the same standards of the news media as we do for politicians? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #102 March 30, 2006 >Oh, so do we now have you on record as demanding the same >standards of the news media as we do for politicians? Believe it or not, I actually hold US senators (and prospective senators) to higher standards than I do news anchors. Hard to believe, I know, given popular culture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #103 March 30, 2006 Quote>Oh, so do we now have you on record as demanding the same >standards of the news media as we do for politicians? Believe it or not, I actually hold US senators (and prospective senators) to higher standards than I do news anchors. Hard to believe, I know, given popular culture. I expect high standards from both. However I try to look at the intent when a mistake is made. In this case I can understand if a mistake is made. Heck, when I was in Alaska last year I took over 300 pictures and occaisionally made a mistake when friends asked where some of them were taken. I actually hold the media to a higher standard than I do myself. BTW, none of my friends jumped all over me and accused me of trying to mislead them. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #104 March 30, 2006 > BTW, none of my friends jumped all over me and accused me of trying >to mislead them. I suspect if you were running for Congress, and took a picture of the Mojave desert and claimed it was northern Alaska to prove that "global warming is real" - you might have heard such an accusation. (And if someone else was running for Congress and did the same thing, I have little doubt you would treat them just as the right wingers treated Dan Rather.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #105 March 30, 2006 Quote> BTW, none of my friends jumped all over me and accused me of trying >to mislead them. I suspect if you were running for Congress, and took a picture of the Mojave desert and claimed it was northern Alaska to prove that "global warming is real" - you might have heard such an accusation. (And if someone else was running for Congress and did the same thing, I have little doubt you would treat them just as the right wingers treated Dan Rather.) I really don't see how you can equate pictures of the Mojave Desert and Alaska with Istanbul and Bagdad. The mistake I made was briefly confusing Juneau with Skagway. Thats a better comparison. I can understand confusing Bagdad and Istanbul in the same way. But you knew that and just wanted to win a point. NOT!!!!!....... - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #106 March 30, 2006 Quote>15 are much more peaceful. True! And during the US civil war, most states effectively saw little violence. Those lying liberal historians, trying to make it out like it was a big deal. I guess I forgot that thousands of people from every state were leaving thier homes to join one side or the other. That must be happening in Iraq too huh....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #107 March 30, 2006 QuoteQuote>15 are much more peaceful. True! And during the US civil war, most states effectively saw little violence. Those lying liberal historians, trying to make it out like it was a big deal. I guess I forgot that thousands of people from every state were leaving thier homes to join one side or the other. That must be happening in Iraq too huh..... Keep trying, soon you'll convince yourself that Iraq is safer than Texas.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #108 March 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote>15 are much more peaceful. True! And during the US civil war, most states effectively saw little violence. Those lying liberal historians, trying to make it out like it was a big deal. I guess I forgot that thousands of people from every state were leaving thier homes to join one side or the other. That must be happening in Iraq too huh..... Keep trying, soon you'll convince yourself that Iraq is safer than Texas. I am having a harder time thinking you can respond without taking a shot or making an insult"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #109 March 30, 2006 QuoteThe mistake I made was briefly confusing Juneau with Skagway. Yeah, I do that all the time, too. I hate it when that happens. I'm with you, dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #110 March 30, 2006 >I really don't see how you can equate pictures of the Mojave Desert >and Alaska with Istanbul and Bagdad. Below is the picture he replaced it with, once he realized his "mistake." Note that this picture is an aerial picture taken from a hotel balcony in July of 2005 and edited in Photoshop (which you can get from the meta data in the picture itself) and at least one of the buildings in the picture has since been destroyed. But I'm sure he wasn't misleading people by using either picture to show how peaceful Iraq is. Heck, I'm sure he would have used one of his own more recent street-level pictures from Iraq if possible - but they probably didn't come out so well through the bulletproof glass. Not his fault. >I can understand confusing Bagdad and Istanbul in the same way. Right, because aerial views and street scenes are pretty much identical. Anyone could make that mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #111 March 30, 2006 Quote>I really don't see how you can equate pictures of the Mojave Desert >and Alaska with Istanbul and Bagdad. Below is the picture he replaced it with, once he realized his "mistake." Note that this picture is an aerial picture taken from a hotel balcony in July of 2005 and edited in Photoshop (which you can get from the meta data in the picture itself) and at least one of the buildings in the picture has since been destroyed. But I'm sure he wasn't misleading people by using either picture to show how peaceful Iraq is. Heck, I'm sure he would have used one of his own more recent street-level pictures from Iraq if possible - but they probably didn't come out so well through the bulletproof glass. Not his fault. >I can understand confusing Bagdad and Istanbul in the same way. Right, because aerial views and street scenes are pretty much identical. Anyone could make that mistake. Looks JUST like Istanbul to me. Attached are some pictures my son took in Iraq: the Tigris bridge, the Iraq National Opera House, a general street scene in Bagdad, and the national war memorial. See how peaceful it is.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #112 March 30, 2006 Got a link to where you got these pictures from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #113 March 30, 2006 QuoteGot a link to where you got these pictures from? Why do I miss "" here? Bwahahahaha LMAO . Man.... American kind of humour, right?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #114 March 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteGot a link to where you got these pictures from? Why do I miss "" here? Bwahahahaha LMAO . Man.... American kind of humour, right?? Is it possible you are confusing my response to Bill's post with Kallends? - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #115 March 30, 2006 >Got a link to where you got these pictures from? http://www.kaloogianforcongress.com/aboutus.asp?id06=116&par06=104 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #116 March 30, 2006 From the picture, I notice that, presumably while flying in/near a war zone, the soldiers and others are wearing body armor, while Kaloogian is not. Is it possible they all understand something that he does not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #117 March 31, 2006 QuoteQuote>I really don't see how you can equate pictures of the Mojave Desert >and Alaska with Istanbul and Bagdad. Below is the picture he replaced it with, once he realized his "mistake." Note that this picture is an aerial picture taken from a hotel balcony in July of 2005 and edited in Photoshop (which you can get from the meta data in the picture itself) and at least one of the buildings in the picture has since been destroyed. But I'm sure he wasn't misleading people by using either picture to show how peaceful Iraq is. Heck, I'm sure he would have used one of his own more recent street-level pictures from Iraq if possible - but they probably didn't come out so well through the bulletproof glass. Not his fault. >I can understand confusing Bagdad and Istanbul in the same way. Right, because aerial views and street scenes are pretty much identical. Anyone could make that mistake. Looks JUST like Istanbul to me. Attached are some pictures my son took in Iraq: the Tigris bridge, the Iraq National Opera House, a general street scene in Bagdad, and the national war memorial. See how peaceful it is. LOLCoreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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