Darius11 12 #1 March 15, 2006 If man or a woman has sex with someone younger then the age of 11 should they be killed after convicted. I say yes. QuoteChild porn ring busted, 27 face charges ‘Molestation on demand’ reportedly offered via Internet chat room NBC News Updated: 4:21 p.m. ET March 15, 2006 CHICAGO - Charges were announced Wednesday against 27 people in the United States, Canada, Australia and Great Britain in connection with an Internet chat room allegedly used to trade child porn and view real-time child molestation. The accused allegedly exchanged videos of live molestation, or what authorities are calling “molestation on demand.” U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who appeared at a news conference in Chicago, said seven victims were identified, one of them less than 18 months old. Gonzales said the images, sent through a peer-to-peer network, represented "the worst imaginable forms of child pornography." Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents infiltrated the ring during the last year and began making arrests last week, the sources told NBC. Thirteen of the suspects are charged in the United States. The Associated Press said that arrests were made in Arizona, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New York, North Carolina and Tennessee. The chat room, called “Kiddypics and Kiddyvids,” allowed users to share pictures and video. Julie Myers, assistant secretary of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, appeared with Gonzales and said the trade in child pornography has expanded with the emergence of new technology. There is more "home-grown child pornography" she said, and more new victims, with video and photographs shared on-line. ICE took part in the investigation because the case involved cross-border crimes. © 2006 MSNBC Interactive © 2006 MSNBC.com I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2 March 15, 2006 There is a story floating around the canadian press how innocent people seem to have gotten arrested in this. Mainly due to credit card fraud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 March 15, 2006 No. Child killers should be executed. Child molesters should merely be put away in jail for a very, very long time. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #4 March 15, 2006 Yes. It is a repulsive sickening crime that destroys an innocent child. People who could do that should be put to death. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #5 March 15, 2006 Would cutting their dicks off be enough?7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #6 March 15, 2006 Killing serves no other purpose other than making victims "feel good." And that's not the purpose of justice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #7 March 15, 2006 I think the only way to be sure that the crime does not get committed again by the convicted child molester is by death.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #8 March 15, 2006 >I think the only way to be sure that the crime does not get >committed again by the convicted child molester is by death. Or life in prison without parole. Both work equally well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #9 March 15, 2006 I say that unless the female rapist gave the boy an STD, she should definately NOT be killed. That would be insane. Punished maybe. If you kill a man convicted of child molestation, you run the risk if killing an innocent man. Many have been convicted and then cleared through DNA evidence, years later. This execution would be used mainly for political gain, as the ignorant masses would cheer on, not really knowing for sure if the person being executed was guilty. If however, it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt and the defendant did not at all deny having committed the crime, then hell yes fry him or at the very least perform chemical castration. ,If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #10 March 15, 2006 QuoteKilling serves no other purpose other than making victims "feel good." And that's not the purpose of justice. Sounds good to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 March 15, 2006 Quote>I think the only way to be sure that the crime does not get >committed again by the convicted child molester is by death. Or life in prison without parole. Both work equally well. 1 there is a slight risk of the convict escaping so not as full proof as the death penalty 2 I don’t have an issue with my tax money paying for murders or thieves but child molesters only if we can poke them with a sharp stick.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 March 15, 2006 No. The question is somewhat of a loaded one, given the contempt with which society regards child molesters. Instinctively, our feelings make most people want to say yes. But molestation, as despicable a crime as it is, is not murder, and so should not be a capital crime. Remove the criminal from society until he's 95, or forever; but no, society should not kill him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #13 March 15, 2006 If we're gonna kill child molesters, why not thieves? Why not people who drive excessively fast because it's fun....even though they know they're putting other people's lives at risk? I could come up with all sorts of people that we could start killing if we wanted to be darn sure they wouldn't do the same thing again. But that would be a pretty costly solution. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #14 March 15, 2006 >there is a slight risk of the convict escaping so not as full proof as >the death penalty Going on that logic, there is a better chance a child molester will get off if there's capital punishment, because juries are historically less likely to return a guilty verdict if they know that the criminal will be put to death based on their decision. >I don’t have an issue with my tax money paying for murders or > thieves but child molesters only if we can poke them with a sharp > stick. Hey, if you want to be let into their cell to poke them with a sharp stick, I'd have no problem with that! (Of course you might get 'poked' yourself . . .) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L.O. 0 #15 March 15, 2006 To kill is such A final solution. The current train of thought is forgiveness for everything under the sun. F-that. I think the death penalty for a lot of things would cut crime. If you know that when or if you get caught you die, you will definitely think again before committing the act. I realize that this is not realistic with the way our liberal government operates but it is simply what I would support. We need some population control anyway so kill them all. (Evil laughter echoes in the back ground.)HPDBs, I hate those guys. AFB, charter member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 March 15, 2006 QuoteKilling serves no other purpose other than making victims "feel good." And that's not the purpose of justice. Actually, it is one of the purposes of justice; it's just not the only purpose of justice. There are certain philosophical justifications of punishment, which are not identical, but which may coexist: 1. Retribution/vengeance. Society expresses its outrage, and victims "feel good" by having their vengeance. 2. General deterrence. Make an example out of the offender to deter others in society from committing crimes. 3. Specific deterrence. By punishing the offender, society hopes to make him think twice before committing another crime. 4. Restitution. Make the offender pay something back to society and/or the victim for the crime he's committed. 5. Prevention. By removing the offender from society, he is physically prevented from preying on society. This is all theoretical, of course. Mid-level undergrad stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #17 March 15, 2006 I think it prob'ly goes without saying that they'll get poked plenty in the prison system.... I think there's plenty of punishment waiting for child molesters among the inmates. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #18 March 15, 2006 QuoteI think it prob'ly goes without saying that they'll get poked plenty in the prison system.... I think there's plenty of punishment waiting for child molesters among the inmates. Even in prisons, their are hierarchies. Child molesters are the pond scum of the prison inmate hierarchy. Despised by the other inmates, who do their best to prey on them mercilessly. Being imprisoned as a child molester is a form of punishment that can be worse than death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #19 March 15, 2006 QuoteIf we're gonna kill child molesters, why not thieves? Why not people who drive excessively fast because it's fun....even though they know they're putting other people's lives at risk? I could come up with all sorts of people that we could start killing if we wanted to be darn sure they wouldn't do the same thing again. But that would be a pretty costly solution. linz Do you honestly not know the difference between steeling someone’s car or speeding and raping someones child??????? If that’s the case then I won’t even waist my time.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 March 15, 2006 Quote Do you honestly not know the difference between steeling someone’s car or speeding and raping someones child??????? If that’s the case then I won’t even waist my time. You're missing her point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 March 16, 2006 QuoteWould cutting their dicks off be enough? Unless they're female offenders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 March 16, 2006 QuoteKilling serves no other purpose other than making victims "feel good." And that's not the purpose of justice. Well, actually victim's families, cause victims are already dead in our current death penalty state. DP = retribution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 March 16, 2006 QuoteI think the only way to be sure that the crime does not get committed again by the convicted child molester is by death. Or don't let children into the jails = incapacitation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 March 16, 2006 QuoteIf we're gonna kill child molesters, why not thieves? Why not people who drive excessively fast because it's fun....even though they know they're putting other people's lives at risk? I could come up with all sorts of people that we could start killing if we wanted to be darn sure they wouldn't do the same thing again. But that would be a pretty costly solution. linz You realize there used to be many crimes for which we would execute. Now we are down to 1, but the problem is that even countries like Russia have abolished CP. Until 6 months ago we were 1 of 8 nations that still kiled kids. 19 of the last 39 child executions were by the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #25 March 16, 2006 QuoteUnless they're female offenders. This has come up twice, now. Why the double standard? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites