Flipflop update

[billvon 3,114]

Just a friendly reminder to Bush supporters that it's time to 180 on the whole timetable thing. Summary -
June 2005: Timetable is bad, helps the enemy
January/March 2006: Timetable is set and is a good thing

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No Iraq withdrawal timetable - Bush
Olivier Knox
Sat, 25 Jun 2005
US President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari on Friday ruled out setting a date for pulling US forces out of Iraq amid a rising death toll and shrinking US support for the war.

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"Why would you say to the enemy: 'Here's a timetable. Just go ahead and wait us out'?" Bush asked rhetorically. "It doesn't make any sense to have a timetable."
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Bush Sets Target for Transition in Iraq
Country's Troops to Take Lead This Year

By Peter Baker
Tuesday, March 14, 2006; 11:36 AM

President Bush vowed yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year, setting a specific benchmark as he kicked off a fresh drive to reassure Americans alarmed by the recent burst of sectarian violence.

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[briguy 0]

flip-flopping only applies to presidential candidates, not actual presidents.

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[billvon 3,114]

>flip-flopping only applies to presidential candidates, not actual presidents.

Sorry. A well-considered reversal of policy, then.

[briguy 0]

just goes to show you can't ever please liberals....

you leave the troops in, they're pissed.
you change you're mind to withdraw, they're still pissed.

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[billvon 3,114]

>just goes to show you can't ever please liberals....

Which liberals are pissed? Keep in mind that not everyone sees things in black and white.

[rehmwa 2]

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>Keep in mind that not everyone sees things in black and white.

That's either entirely wrong or entirely right.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[briguy 0]

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Keep in mind that not everyone sees things in black and white.

right, there are those that sit in the middle, doing nothing save taking pot shots at both sides.

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[livendive 8]

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Keep in mind that not everyone sees things in black and white.

right, there are those that sit in the middle, doing nothing save taking pot shots at both sides.

If only pot shots were all that both sides deserved!

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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Keep in mind that not everyone sees things in black and white.

right, there are those that sit in the middle, doing nothing save taking pot shots at both sides.

If neither side is worthy of my respect, where exactly would you have me stand?

Quickly sir, I need to determine what neat little box I fit into.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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you leave the troops in, they're pissed.
you change you're mind to withdraw, they're still pissed.

Just goes to show that the flip-flop thing was just politcal rhetoric for those with sub-par memories so they could believe the largest/loudest hype at the time.

Everyone else realized it's ok to change your mind over time.

But since the GOP decided to make it their main talking point against Kerry, they should be held to the same standards.

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you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....

[Rebecca 0]

Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[Gravitymaster 0]

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If neither side is worthy of my respect, where exactly would you have me stand?

In the corner, as usual.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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Bush Sets Target for Transition in Iraq
Country's Troops to Take Lead This Year
President Bush vowed yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year, setting a specific benchmark as he kicked off a fresh drive to reassure Americans alarmed by the recent burst of sectarian violence.

Just in time for elections here in this country.

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you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....

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Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

Anything that involves sitting next to you sounds like my kind of deal.

GM: If only I were not in this round room.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[billvon 3,114]

> Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

Another awesome .sig! Who says flip flops are all bad?

[Rebecca 0]

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> Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

Another awesome .sig! Who says flip flops are all bad?

Why thank you!


I was actually just thinking: "What does a sig say about its user?"

Like, does my Red Foreman quote amuse or offend? Is it taken personally, thereby casting a negative light on me? Or does it just say I watch That 70's Show and thought that line was funny?

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[rehmwa 2]

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Like, does my Red Foreman quote amuse or offend? Is it taken personally, thereby casting a negative light on me? Or does it just say I watch That 70's Show and thought that line was funny?

My old man thinks Red Foreman is the greatest guy in the world. He thinks he IS Red Foreman in reality.

He was. The first time I saw that show, I about lost it when that character appeared and started talking. Just make him a farmer, grumpier, a bit more masculine, and quite a bit more direct.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[jakee 1,594]

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And I had done an hellish thing,
And it would work 'em woe:
For all averred, I had killed the bird
That made the breeze to blow.
'Ah wretch!' said they, 'the bird to slay,
That made the breeze to blow!'

Nor dim nor red, like God's own head,
The glorious Sun uprist:
Then all averred, I had killed the bird
That brought the fog and mist.
'Twas right', said they, 'such birds to slay,
That bring the fog and mist.'

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

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Just a friendly reminder to Bush supporters that it's time to 180 on the whole timetable thing. Summary -
June 2005: Timetable is bad, helps the enemy
January/March 2006: Timetable is set and is a good thing

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No Iraq withdrawal timetable - Bush
Olivier Knox
Sat, 25 Jun 2005
US President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari on Friday ruled out setting a date for pulling US forces out of Iraq amid a rising death toll and shrinking US support for the war.

. . .

"Why would you say to the enemy: 'Here's a timetable. Just go ahead and wait us out'?" Bush asked rhetorically. "It doesn't make any sense to have a timetable."
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Bush Sets Target for Transition in Iraq
Country's Troops to Take Lead This Year

By Peter Baker
Tuesday, March 14, 2006; 11:36 AM

President Bush vowed yesterday to turn over most of Iraq to newly trained Iraqi troops by the end of this year, setting a specific benchmark as he kicked off a fresh drive to reassure Americans alarmed by the recent burst of sectarian violence.

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As situations change should not a good leader adjust his/her position/time table/plan of attack? I am not talking just about Bush.

Or should you set a time table and stick with it even as things change?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,114]

>Or should you set a time table and stick with it even as things change?

You should set a timetable and try to meet it. If you fail, then you set another one and try to meet _that._ If you fail enough then you get someone else to do the job.

If you got a bill from the phone company, and they said "pay it whenever; there's no due date or late fees" when would you pay it?

[Lindsey 0]

the situation hasn't changed THAT much. Nothing that all those anarchist leftys didn't tell him was gonna happen to begin with....or did their negative thoughts cause it to happen????

linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[Rookie120 0]

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Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

Why does it feel like a patch of BS?

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[billvon 3,114]

>or did their negative thoughts cause it to happen????

I didn't think about that. He may have neglected his tinfoil hat when he approved that speech.

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>or did their negative thoughts cause it to happen????

I didn't think about that. He may have neglected his tinfoil hat when he approved that speech.

That is because I would not give him one.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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Come stand next to me in this lovely patch of gray.

Why does it feel like a patch of BS?

So if you are not on the right or the left (as in democrat or republican), if you don't see the world in black and white, you are living in a world of bullshit?

Is that what you are saying?

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.