Tapes Show Bush Did NOT Lie About Yellow Cake

[rushmc 23]

.......and that Joe Wilson is a hack ( I threw that in)

More info coming from the docs and tapes of SH.

Maybe some of the same tapes but more news sources are starting to pick this story up ............................... because they have too!!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060313-123146-7380r.htm

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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How does the fact that a tape said Saddam was trying to buy uranium in the mid 90's prove that Bush didn't lie about Saddam trying to buy yellow cake in 2002-2003?

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[rushmc 23]

Monday, March 13, 2006 11:55 a.m. EST
New Iraqi Documents Show Bush Didn't 'Lie'


Newly translated Iraqi documents from Saddam Hussein's regime show that President Bush was factually accurate when he told the nation in his 2003 State of the Union Address that Iraq had recently sought uranium from Africa.

Bush's 16-word statement had formed the basis for the claim adopted by administration critics that "Bush lied" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.

But according to the Washington Times today, an unnamed U.S. official reports that "newly translated Iraqi documents . . . tell of Saddam seeking uranium from Africa in the mid-1990s."

The documents also speak of burying prohibited missiles, a government official familiar with the declassification process told the paper.

In his January 2003 address, Bush told the nation:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

The statement prompted former ambassador to Iraq, Joseph Wilson to complain to the New York Times seven months later: "I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat."

The new documents strongly suggest, however, that Wilson was wrong - and that the "Bush lied" mantra adopted by most Democrats since Wilson first made his complaint has been based on bogus information.

Confirmation on African uranium claim offered by Iraqi documents may be just the tip of the iceberg.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Peter Hoekstra told the Washington Times that about 500 hours of Saddam audiotape is still being translated and analyzed by the U.S.

And U.S. Central Command has 48,000 boxes of Iraqi documents, of which the military has delivered just 68 pages to his committee so far.

"I don't want to overstate what is in the documents," Hoekstra told the paper. "[But] I certainly want to get them out because I think people are going to find them very interesting."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>How does the fact that a tape said Saddam was trying to buy
>yellowcake in the mid 90's prove that Bush didn't lie about Saddam
>trying to buy yellow cake in 2002-2003?


From Joseph Heller:
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'I wanted apple cheeks,' Orr repeated. 'Even when I was a kid I wanted apple cheeks someday, and I decided to work at it until I got them, and by God, I did work at it until I got them, and that's how I did it, with crab apples in my cheeks all day long.' He giggled again. 'One in each cheek.'
'Why did you want apple cheeks?'

'I didn't want apple cheeks,' Orr said. 'I wanted big cheeks. I didn't care about the color so much, but I wanted them big. I worked at it just like one of those crazy guys you read about who go around squeezing rubber balls all day long just to strengthen their hands. In fact, I was one of those crazy guys. I used to walk around all day with rubber balls in my hands, too.'

'Why?'

'Why what?'

'Why did you walk around all day with rubber balls in your hands?'

'Because rubber balls -' said Orr.

'- are better than crab apples?'

Orr sniggered as he shook his head. 'I did it to protect my good reputation in case anyone ever caught me walking around with crab apples in my cheeks. With rubber balls in my hands I could deny there were crab apples in my cheeks. Every time someone asked me why I was walking around with crab apples in my cheeks, I'd just open my hands and show them it was rubber balls I was walking around with, not crab apples, and that they were in my hands, not my cheeks. It was a good story. But I never knew if it got across or not, since it's pretty tough to make people understand you when you're talking to them with two crab apples in your cheeks.'
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Orr sniggered as he shook his head. 'I did it to protect my good reputation in case anyone ever caught me walking around with crab apples in my cheeks. With rubber balls in my hands I could deny there were crab apples in my cheeks. Every time someone asked me why I was walking around with crab apples in my cheeks, I'd just open my hands and show them it was rubber balls I was walking around with, not crab apples, and that they were in my hands, not my cheeks. It was a good story. But I never knew if it got across or not, since it's pretty tough to make people understand you when you're talking to them with two crab apples in your cheeks.'

makes sense to me. What doesn't make sense is why I even bothered to reply in the first place.

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[rushmc 23]

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>How does the fact that a tape said Saddam was trying to buy
>yellowcake in the mid 90's prove that Bush didn't lie about Saddam
>trying to buy yellow cake in 2002-2003?


From Joseph Heller:
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'I wanted apple cheeks,' Orr repeated. 'Even when I was a kid I wanted apple cheeks someday, and I decided to work at it until I got them, and by God, I did work at it until I got them, and that's how I did it, with crab apples in my cheeks all day long.' He giggled again. 'One in each cheek.'
'Why did you want apple cheeks?'

'I didn't want apple cheeks,' Orr said. 'I wanted big cheeks. I didn't care about the color so much, but I wanted them big. I worked at it just like one of those crazy guys you read about who go around squeezing rubber balls all day long just to strengthen their hands. In fact, I was one of those crazy guys. I used to walk around all day with rubber balls in my hands, too.'

'Why?'

'Why what?'

'Why did you walk around all day with rubber balls in your hands?'

'Because rubber balls -' said Orr.

'- are better than crab apples?'

Orr sniggered as he shook his head. 'I did it to protect my good reputation in case anyone ever caught me walking around with crab apples in my cheeks. With rubber balls in my hands I could deny there were crab apples in my cheeks. Every time someone asked me why I was walking around with crab apples in my cheeks, I'd just open my hands and show them it was rubber balls I was walking around with, not crab apples, and that they were in my hands, not my cheeks. It was a good story. But I never knew if it got across or not, since it's pretty tough to make people understand you when you're talking to them with two crab apples in your cheeks.'
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I love the way you guys screw with the context to fit your world view

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>How does the fact that a tape said Saddam was trying to buy
>yellowcake in the mid 90's prove that Bush didn't lie about Saddam
>trying to buy yellow cake in 2002-2003?


From Joseph Heller:
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'I wanted apple cheeks,' Orr repeated. 'Even when I was a kid I wanted apple cheeks someday, and I decided to work at it until I got them, and by God, I did work at it until I got them, and that's how I did it, with crab apples in my cheeks all day long.' He giggled again. 'One in each cheek.'
'Why did you want apple cheeks?'

'I didn't want apple cheeks,' Orr said. 'I wanted big cheeks. I didn't care about the color so much, but I wanted them big. I worked at it just like one of those crazy guys you read about who go around squeezing rubber balls all day long just to strengthen their hands. In fact, I was one of those crazy guys. I used to walk around all day with rubber balls in my hands, too.'

'Why?'

'Why what?'

'Why did you walk around all day with rubber balls in your hands?'

'Because rubber balls -' said Orr.

'- are better than crab apples?'

Orr sniggered as he shook his head. 'I did it to protect my good reputation in case anyone ever caught me walking around with crab apples in my cheeks. With rubber balls in my hands I could deny there were crab apples in my cheeks. Every time someone asked me why I was walking around with crab apples in my cheeks, I'd just open my hands and show them it was rubber balls I was walking around with, not crab apples, and that they were in my hands, not my cheeks. It was a good story. But I never knew if it got across or not, since it's pretty tough to make people understand you when you're talking to them with two crab apples in your cheeks.'
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I love the way you guys screw with the context to fit your world view

Haha. That comment reminded me of a Mr. Ignatius J. Reilly.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/...313-123146-7380r.htm

Once again, of course, from a notoriously right-skewed "news" source.

I'll ask you for the third time: don't you find it insulting to your intelligence when information is cooked to your liking? Wouldn't you rather formulate your own opinion?

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I love the way you guys screw with the context to fit your world view

...and don't YOU just LOVE the way your preferred news sources that you always cite here screw with the context to fit YOUR world view?

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He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[rushmc 23]

What do you do when the media that falls on it's left side chooses not to report on it?

Thanks for the humor though

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I love the way you guys screw with the context to fit your world view

we did? You're kidding right?

Some tape says that Saddam tried to buy Uranium in the mid 90's and according to you, that clears Bush of lying about yellowcake 10 years later.

Oh, and the second article isn't even from the original one you posted. The first one from the Washington times made it quite clear that there is no proof that Saddam did anything that was on the tape

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But it is not clear whether Baghdad did what the documents indicate, said the U.S. official, who asked not to be named.

and that the CIA concluded Iraq did not have WMD's

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The tapes are spurring a new debate over Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stocks more than a year after the CIA's Iraq Survey Group (ISG) completed a lengthy postwar inspection. It concluded that Iraq did not possess stocks of weapons of mass destruction when the U.S-led coalition invaded in March 2003.

we screw with the context.... sigh

rubber balls...

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Haha. That comment reminded me of a Mr. Ignatius J. Reilly.

Great observation. There's a tremendous resemblance to Ignatius in most of the bush-worshippers on dropzone.com.

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[rushmc 23]

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Haha. That comment reminded me of a Mr. Ignatius J. Reilly.

Great observation. There's a tremendous resemblance to Ignatius in most of the bush-worshippers on dropzone.com.

Ah yes, the typical tactic...........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Ah yes, the typical tactic...........

Yes, I am a strong advocate for this and several other unusual tactics.

Namely: "Telling the Truth", "Making Accurate Observations", and "Understanding Complex Concepts."

I recommend those tactics.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[rushmc 23]

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Ah yes, the typical tactic...........

Yes, I am a strong advocate for this and several other unusual tactics.

Namely: "Telling the Truth", "Making Accurate Observations", and "Understanding Complex Concepts."

I recommend those tactics.

Hey, I don't mind debates but I do them with out insults and looking down on those that do not agree, unlike many in the forum......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Hey, I don't mind debates but I do them with out insults and looking down on those that do not agree, unlike many in the forum......

Good policy. I also don't look down on people for disagreeing. I look down on people for being wrong.

There's a difference.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

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... I look down on people for being wrong.

Just for the sake of the argument, how do you discern between people being wrong and people just plain disagreeing with you?

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- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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... I look down on people for being wrong.

Just for the sake of the argument, how do you discern between people being wrong and people just plain disagreeing with you?

Ah! That's an epistemological problem.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[Jasmin 0]

Just for a step back in time, I still remember this:

-----Original Message-----
From: iaea.org
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2003 22:04
Subject: IAEA Director General's Statement to the IAEA Board of Governors - 17 March 2003
Importance: High


In his statement to the IAEA Board of Governors today, IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei reported on the latest situation in Iraq.
He said, "Late last night... I was advised by the U.S government to pull out our inspectors from Baghdad. Similar advice has been given to UNMOVIC. I immediately informed the President of the Security Council for guidance. I also informed the UN Secretary General. I understand that the Security Council will take up the issue today. Naturally, the safety of our staff remains our primary consideration at this difficult time. I earnestly hope - even at this late hour - that a peaceful resolution of the issue can be achieved, and that the world can be spared a war."

xj

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[rushmc 23]

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Hey, I don't mind debates but I do them with out insults and looking down on those that do not agree, unlike many in the forum......

Good policy. I also don't look down on people for disagreeing. I look down on people for being wrong.

There's a difference.

And you are always right??
Cause I don't think you are here!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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... I look down on people for being wrong.

Just for the sake of the argument, how do you discern between people being wrong and people just plain disagreeing with you?

It's pretty simple actually.

If they disagree with me they're wrong.

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[rushmc 23]

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... I look down on people for being wrong.

Just for the sake of the argument, how do you discern between people being wrong and people just plain disagreeing with you?

It's pretty simple actually.

If they disagree with me they're wrong.

Now that was good!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln