kelpdiver 2 #51 March 7, 2006 QuoteI thought that the whole point of America was that it is a country where people can speak out against that which they don't belive in. That people in America can protest without the fear of persecution, that it wa the 'home of the free'. Guess I was wrong. Fortunately, these whiners don't make the rules. Cindy has the freedom to do her thing, and they have their's to suggest she shouldn't be doing it. They don't have a right to suggest she should be shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #52 March 7, 2006 QuoteI dunno... that's why they're mysterious. Go read some of the links. There's at least as much "proof" in there as it takes you to believe that Bush is purposely killing innocent babies in Iraq. I never stated that belief....look something shiny Ohh, so you don't know they are paid protestors, or who is paying for them...really just something you made up...ohh look something shiny QuoteSo... what are you doing to defend your position besides trying to change the subject... AGAIN. My position was that it was odd you took that quote as gospel and suggested it was because you agreed with the sentiment....you turned around asking why I believed cindy, eventhough I never said I did, nor was it pertinant to my earlier statement.....ohh look something shiny QuotePoint it out. Or just don't say it. I already had, I made it a bit more obvious this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontbounce 0 #53 March 7, 2006 No, Cindy Sheehan had a son die in Iraq. Now she is excercising her constitutional right to free speech to demonstrate against a war that she feels strongly about. I would too, given the recents FACTS that have emerged about our real reason for going there. It is the idiots that heard some 5 minute segment on Fox News about her and have been brainwashed with so much hate for her without ever trying to formulate their own opinion that need a bullet. People that don't ever put too much thought into things and let themselves be led around like a philosophical zombie need a bullet... People that rely on Fox News for "fair and balanced" coverage of the "news" that they want you to hear. Thoughtless, Mindless, Zombie Sheep are much more dangerous to this country than a peace activist, a rampaging bumpkin president or even the terrorists themselves. Peace, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #54 March 7, 2006 QuoteFair enough. Shoot the bitch! AMERICA, HOME OF (non-offensive) FREE SPEECH! * *Offer void where prohibited by law. Severe penalty for trespassing. Remind me to give you a kiss on the cheek if I ever meet you*. Beautifully put. *You may opt for a beer if you should so desire. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #55 March 7, 2006 QuoteI never stated that belief....look something shiny Ohh, so you don't know they are paid protestors, or who is paying for them...really just something you made up...ohh look something shiny Your whole sidetrack about paid protestors being real or not is a "something shiny". Almost equivalent you correcting spelling or making a comparison to Hitler... I've read enough news reports over the years from both sides of this debate to get a pretty good idea that it is happening. If you want to get into a battle about paid protesting, start a new thread... then we can both go find articles to support our sides. And we'll both end up still disagreeing. But that's not what we were talking about, was it... but thanks for pointing this shiny out in the beginning. QuoteMy position was that it was odd you took that quote as gospel and suggested it was because you agreed with the sentiment....you turned around asking why I believed cindy, eventhough I never said I did, nor was it pertinant to my earlier statement.....ohh look something shiny No, your original reply was along the lines of "... but but but the right has its fair share of wackjobs!" It didn't have anything to do with me taking that quote as gospel. In fact, I distinctly used the phrase, "pretty good indicator" and not "it is a FACT that, " because of the quote. Sadly enough... your first comment, which assumed something incorrectly, was your least "shiny" comment in this argument. Any "shininess" that I've found in my posts in direct response to your own. So there. You started it. Distractor-man!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #56 March 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteFair enough. Shoot the bitch! AMERICA, HOME OF (non-offensive) FREE SPEECH! * *Offer void where prohibited by law. Severe penalty for trespassing. Remind me to give you a kiss on the cheek if I ever meet you*. Beautifully put. *You may opt for a beer if you should so desire. I would enjoy a kiss from someone who values what this country is about, but no cornholing ...until we have shared a tent first. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #57 March 7, 2006 QuoteI would enjoy a kiss from someone who values what this country is about, Ehm... which country would that be again? (hint: profile) Quotebut no cornholing ...until we have shared a tent first. I don't know what that expression means. Must be one of your colourful American expressions.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #58 March 7, 2006 Next time I see someone wailing "How could any reasonable person kill US soldiers like that?" I will refer them to this thread, where supposedly reasonable people advocate the murder of US servicemen's families. If all it takes is a news broadcast to make someone want to kill military families, imagine what a US bomb that wipes out your entire family will do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #59 March 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteI would enjoy a kiss from someone who values what this country is about, Ehm... which country would that be again? (hint: profile) Quotebut no cornholing ...until we have shared a tent first. I don't know what that expression means. Must be one of your colourful American expressions. A demonstration is worth a thousand words.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #60 March 8, 2006 QuoteOr are you still whining about the 200 election? You mean where Caligula stuffed the ballot box? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #61 March 8, 2006 Sheehan needs to be ignored. If the media didn't follow her around like flies on shit, she may just go away On another note, what the hell is a first class immigrant?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #62 March 8, 2006 QuoteI'll give you Pat Robertson... but even then, you don't see him laying on stoops and rioting at "peace" marches. That domain is almost exclusively owned by the left. Admit it. How about you admit only right wingers resort to blowing up buildings and shooting people to get their way - can you say family planning clinics.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 1010 #63 March 8, 2006 >How about you admit only right wingers resort to blowing up buildings and shooting people to get their way - can you say family planning clinics. Yeah that happens a lot. Ever hear of ELF? They've burned many buildings out west, some 20 miles from me, some others 10 miles away. Hear about the Baptist churches burned in Alabama a couple weeks ago (not years ago)? Who do you think burned them? I'll bet on some anti-religious lefties. You can have it good, fast, or cheap: pick two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #64 March 8, 2006 Egads You missed my whole point Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 1010 #65 March 8, 2006 Quoteummmm what I did was leave an open ended statement in order to get a debate going!... so don't lecture me on morals ok? no, your thread title clearly indicates a desire for CS to be murdered for her views ... you have to be pretty fkn dense not to know that, but the right has its share of pfd people .... and free speech encompasses many forms of expression, evidently you have a problem with that. Quote She is an afront to many of us who served and continue to serve, and yet still gets away with using others names without permission, and represents herself as a speaker for all of them. and your thread is an affront to me (I served) and I'm sure to many I know and am related to, who serve ... just because you are on the "right" and believe in your case doesn't give you carte blanche to be an asshole. but for stirring up sh*t on a rainy tuesday night, yeah it'll do You can have it good, fast, or cheap: pick two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 1010 #66 March 8, 2006 QuoteEgads You missed my whole point doh yep I did This is SC, I thought we were _supposed_ to respond before reading the whole post! You can have it good, fast, or cheap: pick two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #67 March 8, 2006 QuoteHow about you admit only right wingers resort to blowing up buildings and shooting people to get their way - can you say family planning clinics. I'll admit that some extreme religious freaks, whom you will, no doubt, call right wingers solely for their stance on abortion. However, there is no questioning that most conservatives do not condone that behavior. It does appear that many of the left condone the actions of the anarchy kiddies, the attention for the sake of attention getters, and the wild-eyed ranters and ravers. Will you argue that the left hasn't made a pretty big shift to the extreme? That doesn't seem to be true for the right... after all they DO seem to be more in touch with the values of America... so it can't really be considered extreme. If you want to continue one-upping... we'll get into the Weather Underground, ELF, and hell... we could go all the way up to the leftie heroes like Castro and Chavez... if you want.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #68 March 8, 2006 Prefaced with "I haven't read the whole thread." It does appear that many of the left condone the actions of the anarchy kiddies, the attention for the sake of attention getters, and the wild-eyed ranters and ravers. Will you argue that the left hasn't made a pretty big shift to the extreme? That doesn't seem to be true for the right... after all they DO seem to be more in touch with the values of America... so it can't really be considered extreme. I don't think it's that people on "the left" condone her behavior as much as they value the right to free speech...regardless of how detestable the message is. I won't begin to say that people on "the right" don't value the right to free speech, but there are a LOT of conservatives who will quickly toss that Amendment out the window in order to shut down the "anarchy kiddies," because their message is distasteful.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #69 March 8, 2006 Nobody who has ever been a parent of a child him/herelf would ever say that a mother who is so grief-stricken over the death of her son that she manifests that grief irrationally "needs a bullet". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #70 March 8, 2006 QuoteNobody who has ever been a parent of a child him/herelf would ever say that a mother who is so grief-stricken over the death of her son that she manifests that grief irrationally "needs a bullet". I understand that completely... I however would not take it out on any administration, nor protest, I would simply engage in all out warfare against those who actually killed my child, or even a friend. I have a daughter(my gf's child) but I treat her as if she were my own, and I don't want anything to happen to her. She was raised to believe everything in life is nice and sweet, however now that she is growing up that needs to be tempered with reality. I do think that Ms. Sheehan does not tell the truth and is a puppet of her political handlers though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #71 March 8, 2006 She can speak for herself as a mother who's lost her son. Souinds more like you have a problem with her saying something you don't like. We permit that in America, unless Bush & Cheney have decreed otherwise. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #72 March 8, 2006 >I would simply engage in all out warfare against those who actually >killed my child, or even a friend. And that, my friend, is why so many Iraqis want us dead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #73 March 8, 2006 QuotePrefaced with "I haven't read the whole thread." But you really have to... I don't think she deserves a bullet, nor have I stated my opinion on her tresspassing. I am ALSO not questioning her right to free speech. What I AM taking issue with is her apparent dishonest approach to making a story for herself. Allegedly (for those who think quotes must be under oath, not you), she was given the opportunity to come into the US mission to talk to the people there, but refused and chose instead to lay on the stoop blocking access. She doesn't seem to want to get anything done really... except get attention. The headline "SHEEHAN GOES INTO US MISSION TO TALK" doesn't really seem like it'd make the news. And the anarchy kiddies can shout rant and rave all they want, when they start breaking shit and attacking people who don't agree with them... they should have their asses beat. Simple as that. It just seems that many of the mass "leftie" protests end up in some sort of irrational behavior that prevents people like myself from really listening or taking them seriously. Don't beleive me? Check out the videos on www.protestwarrior.com.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #74 March 8, 2006 QuoteIt just seems that many of the mass "leftie" protests end up in some sort of irrational behavior that prevents people like myself from really listening or taking them seriously. Good thing none of the "rightie" protests ever do that. That would almost make it seem like..human nature. But no, it's just the Left. Carry on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #75 March 8, 2006 no, no, no, when he says that he doesn't mean the right doesn't do it...he just means the left does it more...or likes it more...or something along those lines... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
