TheAnvil 0 #1 March 3, 2006 Clicky Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #2 March 3, 2006 Nearly everyone supports taxes that only affect other people. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 March 3, 2006 You know Vinnie..I just realized this is the best way to combat illegal immigration without putting troops on the border or building a fence. Just tax them out of the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #4 March 3, 2006 How would they distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. I mean if they know they are illegal why not just call the INS. Arizona's bill is BS, taxing all outgoing wire transfers. When I was in school in Europe my folks would wire transfer me money, so that mean now they are getting taxed again ontop of Fed and State. It's total BS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #5 March 3, 2006 Consider the following, Vinnie: The year is 2010. This tax is in place and is making the state tens of millions of dollars. A new border-law-enforcement bill comes across the governor's desk. "Hmm. If I sign this, I lose tens of millions of dollars, and I'll have to close those new schools I opened last year. The voters won't like that. Gotta veto it." Do we really want to give our politicians more incentives to allow illegal immigration? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #6 March 3, 2006 I don't think that would occur. The voting masses in the border states would have to drastically change their opinions with regards to illegal immigration in order for that to be a politically viable move for any governor. I think it unfortunate that states should have to be involved as much as they are anyway, as federal borders should be a federal problem to be solved. With state assistance/collusion perhaps, but the feds should take the lead there in both funding and personnel. Possible, but not likely I think. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #7 March 3, 2006 QuoteDo we really want to give our politicians more incentives to allow illegal immigration? Hey, you need someone to wash your car and deliver your pizza. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #8 March 3, 2006 >The voting masses in the border states would have to drastically change >their opinions with regards to illegal immigration . . . Two magic words - "Tax cut" (and its opposite, "tax increase.") I know people who stop listening to anything else either candidate says once those words come out of their mouth. Money talks. Can that factor be overcome by people who dislike illegal immigrants? In border towns, yes. But in the rest of the state? I don't know. And if you make it a federal issue - the words "tax increase" are going to scare a West Virginian a lot more than "illegal immigration." Heck, just close the gate - problem solved! >I think it unfortunate that states should have to be involved as much as >they are anyway, as federal borders should be a federal problem to be >solved. Why Vinny - we'll make a democrat of you yet! (kidding, I'm kidding, don't go postal on me) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 March 3, 2006 QuoteI don't think that would occur. Vinnie, a bureaucrat or politician who may find him or herself losing funding is likely to fight tooth and nail to maintain that funding or get more. Taxing illegal immigration would create a vast incentive to allow it. It's why government wants smokers - it provides a lot of money into tax coffers. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 March 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't think that would occur. Vinnie, a bureaucrat or politician who may find him or herself losing funding is likely to fight tooth and nail to maintain that funding or get more. Taxing illegal immigration would create a vast incentive to allow it. It's why government wants smokers - it provides a lot of money into tax coffers. I think you nailed the reason the govt. hasn't done anything but play lip servive to illegal immigration. I believe once the baby boomers filter thru the system, the US will be bankrupt. We need the illegals paying taxes to support this stupid socialist society we have created. One of the draw backs to over 30 years of legal abortions it seems. (and before anyone starts whining on about abortion, I have never stated a position on it). (*) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 March 3, 2006 Since when do the illegals pay taxes?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #12 March 3, 2006 True in most cases, but letting illegals into the country to fund that? I just don't see that ever being a politically viable thing to do. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 March 3, 2006 QuoteSince when do the illegals pay taxes? My understanding is that 50-60% pay payroll taxes. I expect to see more laws like this go into effect in the future, not only on a State, but also a Federal level b/c it may be the only way to prop up SS, Medicare etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #14 March 3, 2006 Me too Vinny, I would for sure support that no questions "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 March 3, 2006 QuoteTrue in most cases, but letting illegals into the country to fund that? I just don't see that ever being a politically viable thing to do. It already is. Otherwise, they would have shut down the border long ago. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites