Icon134 0 #26 March 2, 2006 QuoteOf course, I had that chat at age 9 rather awkwardly at the breakfast table with my father as I was reading Are You There God, It's Me, Margaret. "Dad, what's a period?" Needless to say that prompted a discussion between me and my mother.I think I remember seeing that book at church growing up... I didn't read it... But vaguely remember some other books like that too...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #27 March 2, 2006 How old are you when you are in 3rd grade? ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #28 March 2, 2006 QuotePart of the earlier onset of menstruation in girls, nowadays, I believe is partly due to the rising obesity rates in the U.S. Higher body fat normally results in earlier menarche, I believe. ( Don't quote me on that at, but I am sure that's what I heard in my developmental psych class!) Also, perhaps the hormones injected into food could also be a contributing factor? I'm not sure that anyone's quite sure why - I've heard there are a lot of theories on it including the ones you cited. Whether we know why it's happening, it's happening and it means education (at least about the changing body) should probably happen earlier. When I was a kid, I remember a few girls getting their period when we were still in 6th grade, but most of us got it in 7th grade, so education in the 5th grade was just about the right timing. Now I understand the average is a couple years earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #29 March 2, 2006 QuoteHow old are you when you are in 3rd grade? Usually around 8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #30 March 2, 2006 Great post... yes its a hard call on the right time. Thats why parents should be wise enough to know their kids and see signs of onset, both physically and mentally. In this home the talks started young, and advance depending on need. Kyle has more a awareness of his body and of girls then Cody so Kyle has learned more. I just wish parents would use more of the resources that are avaliable for them. Not only in this subject, but talks about drugs, drinking and peer pressure. They are all very real problems with youths yet parents like to ignore it. I know a family, whose 6 kids never had any talks concerning these issues, they are all grown up now and every single one has had issues with them some more extreme then others. Then when the parents found out they ignored them and pretended it never happened. That to me is wrong to do to kids. Kids want discipline, they want to know that their parents care enough to teach them right and wrong, they want to know that when they choose wrong their parents will be there for support. Why are we relaying on schools for this?Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #31 March 2, 2006 I had sex ed in 6th grade. It was nothing more than an hour or two going over who knows what. Too immature at that age to take it seriously. Then I vaguely remember something around 8th or 9th grade where they sat everyone down in the same place, guys and girls, and had a talk. Think it was more geared towards aids then. A banana did get sheathed though only to have it blast off. Don't let this happen to you kind of thing. At the time thinking " it doesn't stay on? What the heck!" My real sex ed was hustler, playboy, the two very stacked girls next door. A couple of understanding girls. Oh and videos of course.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #32 March 2, 2006 Unfortunately some people do rely on the schools for this. But it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. The schools can teach about these issues AND parents can have the same discussions at home. There are a whole lot of kids that don't get any of it at home. And the exposure that many kids get is TO drugs/alcohol/sexual promiscuity. Education in the schools will at least give these kids some knowledge and (hopefully) direction that just might help them to make better decisions for themselves. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #33 March 2, 2006 >Higher body fat normally results in earlier menarche, I believe. It can. Fat also creates testosterone, which is why some fat women have a problem with body hair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 March 2, 2006 I have seen at least one Dr. list the increase amount of steroids and hormones added to meat/chicken as a reason for earlier entry into puberty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #35 March 2, 2006 QuoteI had sex ed in 6th grade. It was nothing more than an hour or two going over who knows what. Too immature at that age to take it seriously. Then I vaguely remember something around 8th or 9th grade where they sat everyone down in the same place, guys and girls, and had a talk. Think it was more geared towards aids then. A banana did get sheathed though only to have it blast off. Don't let this happen to you kind of thing. I didn't get the 6th grade thing, but did get a similar 2-hour tutorial in 9th grade. Now that I'm an adult and have developed a somewhat broader base of knowledge on the subject, I'd be in favor of the same basic timeframe (8th-9th grade), but a much more in-depth analysis of the subject of human sexuality. Maybe a 2-3 week module that included the basic male/female biologies including healthy function and potential problems, the reproductive cycle, birth control and disease prevention, and maybe a little on the social aspects, to include consent, stigma, abnormal, etc. That much time ought to be long enough to get the kids to stop the giggling and take a semi-mature look at the subject. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #36 March 2, 2006 Timing is a really tough call. Sometimes, even parents can make mistakes about the maturity level of the child, either providing too much info too soon, or too little, too late. When I was in junior high school (grades 7 and 8), there were several students that were having sex. Junior high age students can range from about age 11 to age 14 or so, and in the district I went to school in, education about sex, STDs, and pregnancy prevention didn't happen until 9th or 10th grade, depending on the high school. One of those junior high students got pregnant. I have no idea what happened to her; her parents pulled her out of that school, and we never saw her again. I do wonder, though, if she'd had a little more information, whether that pregnancy could have been avoided. There's been cases of girls getting their first period as young as age five. Between age 8 to 12 seems to be average. At that point, those girls are probably physically capable of getting pregnant. I'm not sure that it's such a good idea to withhold sex ed from students until grade 9 or 10 (ages 13 to 16, usually), when some of those girls may be physically capable of getting pregnant up to five or more years earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #37 March 2, 2006 If you can't find a girl at WPAFB or at WSU then you clearly need to call Wildblue and TCNelson to go out on their Thursday night parties Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #38 March 3, 2006 QuoteIf you can't find a girl at WPAFB or at WSU then you clearly need to call Wildblue and TCNelson to go out on their Thursday night parties I have no game... really... its sad.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #39 March 3, 2006 Call them. If WildBlue can get a girl to talk to him you're as good as laid Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitflybaseboy 0 #40 March 4, 2006 Hey Magellan, Don't believe everything you hear! 321CYA SitflybasboyBASE 1043 Night BASE 160 BASE is to skydivers as skydiving is to whuffos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
